No way back for Peggy Carter ?

[MrB]

I really miss that show. Season 1 was great.
Really want a continuation.

 

[BestGirl]

Season 2 killed the interest I had in the character. Bare minimum, she'll have to be moved back to NYC before I'd watch again.

 

[KevTravels]

Season 2 killed the interest I had in the character. Bare minimum, she'll have to be moved back to NYC before I'd watch again.

what was so bad about season 2?

 

[scarlet-witch]

I loved Agent Carter.

 

[Aximili86]

The show-runner summed it up perfectly toward the end of season 2, she had a great point. "For a renewal, people would actually have to watch the show."

It was an awesome series. Joe & Jane public just didn't give a ****. Always seemed weird to me that the AoS audience didn't cross over to Carter, you'd figure that'd be a sure thing baked into the cake. Apparently not.

*Shrugs* Not ABCs' fault, totally makes sense they wouldn't keep it going if the ratings were in the toilet. It's a pretty niche thing anyway, it's not like there's really any other period-piece noir stuff on network TV, Agent Carter was always pretty much for the hardcores.

 

[Pink Ranger]

I'm holding out hope for a period MCU movie in the 1960s/1970s called Agent Carter and the Invaders. Her leading a proto-team of the Avengers, with heroes that may have existed then historically (Hank Pym, Janet Van Dyne) or that don't age normally and could exist then and now (Namor, Starfox, Sersi, Asgardians or Olympians).

 

[Teelie]

The thing to keep in mind, Agents of SHIELD has basically been forced by Disney on ABC to keep it on the air when ABC wanted to cancel it before. The series never quite had the ratings ABC wanted and at one point tried to cancel it but their corporate overlords overruled them.

With Carter's ratings being even less than that (despite being as good or better than SHIELD was at the time) it wasn't as easy to justify keeping it going.

I don't know why Carter failed to gain the audience SHIELD had but for whatever reason it didn't, but as I mentioned before, even SHIELD has had an averted cancellation in its past.

And in a recent interview, Hayley Atwell said the only thing keeping the series from coming back was ABC itself. Everyone else involved would be happy to resume the series.

 

[Mike Murdock]

I didn't like Season 2.

I don't think a return is impossible. Certainly, guest appearances are possible if there's a show to put them in. I wouldn't mind two hour TV specials, once a year, or even two hour streaming specials.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

I could see it returning on the upcoming Disney streaming service.

 

[BestGirl]

what was so bad about season 2?

Everything.

Setting a spy show in LA was kinda silly and solely done to save money. Her romance with the black scientist was boring and he was such a whiny character. There were times that it seemed as though the show was making the plot up as it went along, for example, when it was revealed late in the season that Howard Stark and the gangster character were friends. There was an awful scene in which the characters, having been informed that the world was possibly ending, take a break to have a leisurely lunch.

The Agent Carter forum is still up, I think. You can read people's critiques of the season there. Many people were disappointed with it.

I will say that I did like the subplot involving her brother. I might come back just to see that resolved.

 

[ComicBookNerd]

My only complaint about Agent Carter is that it ended after only 2 seasons. They should’ve had at least 1 more season to show how the SSR became SHIELD.

 

[NotNickFury]

I don't see a forum.

But also don't see a need for Agent Carter to return, really. The ratings weren't there and Season Two was such a departure from what Season One was that it's even more tragic that Thompson getting shot is just an unsolved cliffhanger. That said, Season Two does have my favorite scene of the entire series- Peggy and Jarvis' argument.

 

[Fincher]

Regarding the ratings, I suspect that people who had quit AoS early weren't too inclined to watch another Marvel show about agents rather than superheroes after they weren't happy with the first one. Then, to be honest, I didn't think the initial marketing was that good. I wasn't feeling the blue suit with red hat she was wearing that kind of became the logo, and otherwise the commercials were just...fine. Then there was a promo scene of her, Jarvis, and Howard that out of context was pretty drab and uninvolving. I watched anyway because I was a fan of The First Avenger along with The Winter Soldier, but The First Avenger wasn't the most successful of the Marvel movies, and here's a follow-up without the lead character or superheroes in general with (at least from my perspective) so-so marketing. People just didn't care.

And then the first season was really good, but you can't win over viewers that aren't there. It was a surprise it got renewed at all, and then I feel like they tried to make it more like Iron Man in the second season because Iron Man was bigger than Captain America, especially The First Avenger. Except it's not Iron Man, and non-viewers still didn't care, and the changes alienated a lot of the people who were watching.

Which also hurts the chances of it coming back, because to bring back a show that didn't attract a lot of viewers to begin with, you need the viewers it did have to be die-hard, vocal fans, not initial fans who became somewhat jaded by the direction the show took but are willing enough to watch again if it happens to come back. In the case of Disney streaming, they make shows to attract subscribers, so the question is how many people would subscribe for Agent Carter, and how many of those wouldn't subscribe for some other Marvel thing because they're Marvel fans in general.

 

[Marvolo]

Ive been watching SHIELD since TWS came out, but I just couldnt get into Carter. I tried, but I lost interest after the first season. Id much rather have had a show starring the Howling Commandos.

 

[ComicBookNerd]

Interestingly, a big complaint about Agent Carter was that it was “too feminist”. But when you compare it to the direction superhero shows are taking now days, Agent Carter doesn’t seem feminist at all. Maybe the biggest problem with Agent Carter is that it came out slightly ahead of its time. It might have been embraced better if it was released under current circumstances.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I would like to see at the very least a straight to Disney Movie to end the series and wrap up the loose ends. If they do that, I'd be happy.

 

[WereCoyote]

Everything.

Setting a spy show in LA was kinda silly and solely done to save money. Her romance with the black scientist was boring and he was such a whiny character. There were times that it seemed as though the show was making the plot up as it went along, for example, when it was revealed late in the season that Howard Stark and the gangster character were friends. There was an awful scene in which the characters, having been informed that the world was possibly ending, take a break to have a leisurely lunch.

The Agent Carter forum is still up, I think. You can read people's critiques of the season there. Many people were disappointed with it.

I will say that I did like the subplot involving her brother. I might come back just to see that resolved.

I can't remember was it season 1 or 2 that did the prequel for Black Widow thing too?

 

[Fincher]

I can't remember was it season 1 or 2 that did the prequel for Black Widow thing too?

That was Season 1.

 

[Aximili86]

Wait, what? The Los Angeles setting was a complaint?

Personally I loved the change of setting, it'd make sense the SSR would have a west coast division, especially given all the Howard Hughes-esque aviation and tech advances going on out there at the time.

The writing just wasn't as sharp as the first year, and some of the ideas didn't quite hit. But it's still a mostly-pretty-decent season, just a step down from the first year.

 

[ComicBookNerd]

Wait, what? The Los Angeles setting was a complaint?

Personally I loved the change of setting, it'd make sense the SSR would have a west coast division, especially given all the Howard Hughes-esque aviation and tech advances going on out there at the time.

The writing just wasn't as sharp as the first year, and some of the ideas didn't quite hit. But it's still a mostly-pretty-decent season, just a step down from the first year.

I agree, it wasn’t the change of setting, it was really about the change in tone. I would’ve preferred to have seen Dottie be the big bad, and ending the series with a cliff hanger left a sour taste. Season 1 had a much more meaningful ending with Peggy pouring Steve’s blood into the Hudson.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I agree that the setting wasn't the problem, it was the core story. The concept for season 2 just was not as strong as season 1. But, I still liked it.

 

[Aximili86]

Yeah, much as the pulpy-MCU-version-of-NYC in S1 was awesome, I loved seeing them go all Mulholland Falls/L.A. Confidential/The Rocketeer visual vibes with S1, fits to a tee.

Plus we already know Stark Sr set up shop out there, from Iron Man. Fits with what we know.