No Way Home No Way Home Rumors, Leaks And Speculation Thread (Potential Spoilers Ahead)

[Loden Greatstorm]

Nice! Good to know we'll be seeing the classic Raimi suit again

No way they see the same suits... New costumes = new merchandise and they won't be missing out on that.

 

[Arachnerd]

In regards to the reddit leak stating that the villains are pulled from their universe. I'm really curious as to when where and why.

My guess is they don't waste much time and the villains get released in the end of act 1. With it being Tom on his own until the other Spidey's come through in act 3.

Conflict can easily stem from the villains all recognizing Peter as their Spider-Man and wanting to kill him because of that simple fact.

I'm also curious about the arc reactor leak. Hopefully that's fake, there's so much more they can do with this concept. All this Stark connection also leads me to believe Spidey will popup in Iron Heart too.

And that this Peters arc, should they bring back Tom for adult Peter, will culminate withe the Parker Industries Peter of 616.

I no longer believe both Spider-Men will solely pop up in Act 3 for the climax and nothing else. Narratively speaking it would make more sense, at least from my point of view, to re-introduce them in Act 2 and have them interact with Tom Holland's Spider-Man a bit before crap hits the fan.

As for you believing the arc reactor leak to be fake (and let's face it, missing a lot of detail, character development or in-depth context), ViewerAnon indirectly stated that some of it matched what he'd heard of the movie, so that's not exactly something you can just choose to dismiss.

No way they see the same suits... New costumes = new merchandise and they won't be missing out on that.

Right, as if fans wouldn't absolutely flock to buy Funko Pops of Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield's Spider-Men in their original suits. Especially Tobey's since the Raimi suit is pretty much iconic.

 

[GuestStar2004]

I no longer believe both Spider-Men will solely pop up in Act 3 for the climax and nothing else. Narratively speaking it would make more sense, at least from my point of view, to re-introduce them in Act 2 and have them interact with Tom Holland's Spider-Man a bit before crap hits the fan.

I dunno about that. they will want to focus alot on Ned, MJ and Peters life, so they probably will have MCU Spider-man fighting these villains solo for a period while with his school pals or whatever. zendaya even suggested she was part of an action scene and has talked about how nice molina was.

Once you introduce the other spider-men the other guest characters kinda fall into the background because it becomes the cool factor of 3 spider-men. and i don't think they will want to push the supporters out. many fans may not mind. but i don't think the creative team will do that.

 

[Arachnerd]

No reason to think that MJ and Ned can't still get a lot of focus while the other Spider-Men are around.

Heck, I can just picture a scene of Ned geeking out at seeing Tobey and Andrew for instance for the multiple Spider-Men aspect alone. That's totally something that would fit with the tone of this franchise.

 

[kguillou]

But from a narrative/script standpoint it makes no sense to randomly introduce Tobey and Maguire in act III just to help Holland throw some punches. Thats vapid and meaningless. I mean, sure we’d all still cheer seeing it happen no matter what, but you have to build up to it. It has to feel earned. Thats how this stuff works. Tobey and Andrew HAVE to have at least one or two scenes in act II where we the audience are RE-introduced to these two alternate Spider-men, have them share dialogue with Holland and MJ and Ned, get an idea of WHO they are and where their heads are at and THEN the pay off in act III will be seeing the three suited butt and kicking up together.

And it can absolutely be done without taking the focus off of Holland, Ned and MJ much like how Civil War’s focus never came off of Cap and Bucky even with all the characters that movie was juggling.

 

[Gothamsknight]

I'm curious at what point they both get pulled into this. My gut tells me Maguire and Garfield are from a current era, which will provide insight on what they've been up to.

 

[Arachnerd]

But from a narrative/script standpoint it makes no sense to randomly introduce Tobey and Andrew in act III just to help Holland throw some punches. Thats vapid and meaningless. I mean, sure we’d all still cheer seeing it happen no matter what, but you have to build up to it. It has to feel earned. Thats how this stuff works. Tobey and Andrew HAVE to have at least one or two scenes in act II where we the audience are RE-introduced to these two alternate Spider-men, have them share dialogue with Holland and MJ and Ned, get an idea of WHO they are and where their heads are at and THEN the pay off in act III will be seeing the three suited up and kicking up together.

And it can absolutely be done without taking the focus off of Holland, Ned and MJ much like how Civil War’s focus never came off of Cap and Bucky even with all the characters that movie was juggling.

You put it better than I ever could.

 

[GuestStar2004]

No reason to think that MJ and Ned can't still get a lot of focus while the other Spider-Men are around.

Heck, I can just picture a scene of Ned geeking out at seeing Tobey and Andrew for instance for the multiple Spider-Men aspect alone. That's totally something that would fit with the tone of this franchise.

But does that really give him and MJ much to do if you have 3 spidermen in screen?

I just think they are more likely to MORE involved in the story then previously. because its just as much their progression because they are the MCU Spider-man supporting characters.

 

[Arachnerd]

You don't really know what their roles will be in this other than tagging along with Peter for the multiverse venture. The other Spider-Men showing up doesn't mean they still can't be relevant characters in their own way.

Also I point you to kguillou's post above as to why introducing Tobey and Andrew's Spider-Men in the third act would be underwhelming and weak from a storytelling point of view.

 

[Batghost]

No way they see the same suits... New costumes = new merchandise and they won't be missing out on that.

You can bet on that.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Also I point you to kguillou's post above as to why introducing Tobey and Andrew's Spider-Men in the third act would be underwhelming and weak from a storytelling point of view.

I wouldn't put it past them.

I mean my guess is that it will be similar to Civil war in terms of Spider-mans role in. but in Civil War Spider-man wasn't part of the climax. he just kinda disappeared. while they probably will be part of the climax in this movie so it could just be moved onto later on.

Sure they can give us alot of depth. but they don't need too. all they need to do if give small doses with recognizable villains appearing and then the spider-men appearing. and then a big climax.

 

[kguillou]

Exactly, we dont need to give them a ton of screentime prior to act III but we do need to reintroduce them in some capacity before they all team up in act III. Otherwise it’d be meaningless and cheap.

 

[Dr. Evil]

 

[SM71]

I'm assuming Doc Ock and the other villains will be introduced relatively early in the film, and if that's the case it seems kinda weird if Tobey and Andrew aren't introduced, or at least shown, at relatively the same stage. It'd be weird to see Molina's Ock in Act I then not see Tobey until Act III, imo. Maybe they won't we woven into the main plot threads that early, but I'd bet they'd at least be shown, even in a cursory way around the same time their respective Universe villains are shown.

But who knows ha

 

[SM71]

But from a narrative/script standpoint it makes no sense to randomly introduce Tobey and Maguire in act III just to help Holland throw some punches. Thats vapid and meaningless. I mean, sure we’d all still cheer seeing it happen no matter what, but you have to build up to it. It has to feel earned. Thats how this stuff works. Tobey and Andrew HAVE to have at least one or two scenes in act II where we the audience are RE-introduced to these two alternate Spider-men, have them share dialogue with Holland and MJ and Ned, get an idea of WHO they are and where their heads are at and THEN the pay off in act III will be seeing the three suited butt and kicking up together.

Idk if this was intentional or not, but this cracked me up so hard

But for real, 1000% agree with everything you said here in this post, couldn't agree more or put it better myself

 

[SM71]

I just had a thought (kinda based on the new leak) -- maybe the villains (Raimi and Webb) are pulled into Tom's Universe right before death, and since they "still want to kill Spider-man" like the leak said, they obviously come across Tom's Spidey and just instantly hate / try to kill him. So all of a sudden, he's facing alll these villains at once throughout the movie, and obviously will get overwhelmed, and then (maybe Dr. Strange, with/without Peter, and/or other MCU characters) go to the other Spidey Universes to "recruit" those Spiders -- Tobey and Andrew -- because Tom obviously needs some help, or maybe they think those guys will be better able to confront/fight/talk them down more effectively.

Obviously it wouldn't be as simple as all that, but just the overall all : Tom suddenly finds himself facing/fighting loads of new and other universe villains, and the good guys (Dr. Strange, Tom) realize they need to find or recruit the other Spideys to help, and go looking for them in their Universes.

Idk, pulling this outa my ***, but think it could be cool and could definitely work doing it in this way

 

[Arachnerd]

I do love the idea of Tom first facing them on his own and losing. Would still highlight the danger that the Sinister Six could provide.

 

[GuestStar2004]

If they are infact the S6.

Given the amount they are working with. or at least the amount they are expecting to carry. stuff like his identity, giving the supporting cast something to do. exploring the MJ/Peter romance that was said to be part of the film. and then to use several villains in the plot. i just think the 2nd will mostly be that. and then the 3rd act will be Toms peter & friends tracking down these spider-men. then we can get reintroduced to each of them 1 to 1 through his eyes. abit like Tony finding Peter in Civil War. which i sorta think is the most likely case and then that will lead to them the climax.

I feel like it would fall into wishful thinking to expect too much. and more realistic to expect minimal but glorified. basically the climax will probably be action packed and lengthy. but we will see.

 

[Arachnerd]

Because Civil War totally didn't manage to cram all these elements into a satisfying way. It's one thing to temper expectations, sure, but you come across like you're severely trying to downplay the multiverse aspect of this movie and telling folks that the chance of the other Spider-Men popping up in the second act is factually impossible. You don't know that.

Unsurprisingly predictably, going to have agree to disagree with you on this, GuestStar lol

 

[kguillou]

Idk if this was intentional or not, but this cracked me up so hard

But for real, 1000% agree with everything you said here in this post, couldn't agree more or put it better myself

LMAO. You know what, I’m not editing my post. Im keeping it as is.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I do hope that there's some sort of through line with Toomes, Gargan, Schultz and Mason. We've already established them in the MCU and three of them (Toomes, Gargan and Schultz) could easily join Electro, Doc Oc and Norman Osborn as the Sinister Six. I don't think they need to bring in Sandman, Rhino or Lizard from the other Spiderman movies when we already have Vulture, Shocker and Gargan.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Presumably the multiverse angle is gonna be the source of the villains. and thats why its only villains from the multiverse.

 

[Monte Cristo]

My guess is they don't waste much time and the villains get released in the end of act 1. With it being Tom on his own until the other Spidey's come through in act 3.

I think Maguire and Garfield will have a decent amount of runtime beyond that of a cameo. However not at the expense of the incumbent.

 

[SM71]

LMAO. You know what, I’m not editing my post. Im keeping it as is.

Good, I'd be upset if you didn't xD

 

[Albright]

Yup keep on kicking names and taking asses...