Notre Dame Cathedral on fire

[KRYPTON INC.]

 

[Silvermoon]

Been watching live feeds on youtube this morning...



(as of posting, looks like they're working on securing/strapping some of the remaining statues on some of the smaller spires?

Edit: wonder if they're doing it as prep work to eventually remove them)

 

[Dark Raven]

Sad that Notre Damme has sustained so much damaged. Apparently it's not the first time it has needed to be rebuilt. Having a major cathedral with so much history on fire like that is almost like something out of a gothic horror movie or Hammer film.

At least it wasn't completely burnt down, otherwise I don't know how they would ever rebuild that.

 

[Silvermoon]

Looks like they are prepping to remove that statue (and so will probably go around and do any others remaining on those outer edges) as a crane has just dropped into frame and workers are securing it to the straps they put around the statue)



Edit: Cutting through the base of the statue?

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

Sad that Notre Damme has sustained so much damaged. Apparently it's not the first time it has needed to be rebuilt. Having a major cathedral with so much history on fire like that is almost like something out of a gothic horror movie or Hammer film.

At least it wasn't completely burnt down, otherwise I don't know how they would ever rebuild that.

It can be done. The cathedral of Reins was a ruin after WW1 and it was rebuilt.

 

[squeekness]

I'm happy to see enthusiasm for the restoration. I've read that some French millionaires have already pledged funs to help out.

 

[Dark Raven]

It can be done. The cathedral of Reins was a ruin after WW1 and it was rebuilt.

Was it completely levelled like the World Trade Center or did it still partially exist?

It seems like these days though people wouldn't build cathedrals. It almost seems too expensive and like a thing of the past. Many modern churches are just made out of pre fab materials and not stone or even wood.

 

[Silvermoon]

Looks like they are prepping to remove that statue (and so will probably go around and do any others remaining on those outer edges) as a crane has just dropped into frame and workers are securing it to the straps they put around the statue)

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Edit: Cutting through the base of the statue?
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Replying to my own post...yes, they're cutting through, so yes, seem to be removing it

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

Was it completely levelled like the World Trade Center or did it still partially exist

It seems like these days though people wouldn't build cathedrals. It almost seems too expensive and like a thing of the past. Many modern churches are just made out of pre fab materials and not stone or even wood.

Reins was not leveled to the ground but the damage was huge even more so than of Notre Dame.

 

[Silvermoon]

It's also amazing what technology can do now to help with restorations/rebuilding of historic buildings after events like this. I'm reminded of one of our local historic buildings after a fire gutted it 9 years ago left just the outer brick walls (fire was caused by accident/negligence... a 300 watt light was left on and too close to a wooden speaker box). Granted, at about 112 years old the building was minuscule/a fraction of the scale (and age) of ND, but when the church who owned it decided to preserve what was left and turn the building into one of their temples, watching that happen seemed like an engineering feat. They re-enforced the exterior walls from the inside (can't remember if it was with concrete or something else), and then essentially put the remnants of the building on stilts as they excavated below it to create new foundation/create some basement levels to the building, before returning it to "solid ground" (Time lapse video of the construction for anyone interested [here])

For Notre Dame...it's going to take a long time to restore this (I've seen some estimates at 10-15 years?) It will be interesting to watch it's progress/how they decide to go about it while (hopefully) retaining the original look (because I imagine they'll want to try to implement some modern safety measures to hopefully prevent this from happening again)

 

[Lily Adler]

drunk post of the day: They did it for the insurance money!

 

[Erzengel]

I only just made it to Europe this year. It really makes me want to go to all these countries and see these sites.

 

[Dark Raven]

It's also amazing what technology can do now to help with restorations/rebuilding of historic buildings after events like this. I'm reminded of one of our local historic buildings after a fire gutted it 9 years ago left just the outer brick walls (fire was caused by accident/negligence... a 300 watt light was left on and too close to a wooden speaker box). Granted, at about 112 years old the building was minuscule/a fraction of the scale (and age) of ND, but when the church who owned it decided to preserve what was left and turn the building into one of their temples, watching that happen seemed like an engineering feat. They re-enforced the exterior walls from the inside (can't remember if it was with concrete or something else), and then essentially put the remnants of the building on stilts as they excavated below it to create new foundation/create some basement levels to the building, before returning it to "solid ground" (Time lapse video of the construction for anyone interested [here])

For Notre Dame...it's going to take a long time to restore this (I've seen some estimates at 10-15 years?) It will be interesting to watch it's progress/how they decide to go about it while (hopefully) retaining the original look (because I imagine they'll want to try to implement some modern safety measures to hopefully prevent this from happening again)

I'm sure they'll restore it to its original look. I can't see any reason to suddenly have a completely different style. If the Statue of Liberty lost its torch, they wouldn't suddenly give it a modern flashlight.

 

[Lily Adler]

I'm sure they'll restore it to its original look. I can't see any reason to suddenly have a completely different style. If the Statue of Liberty lost its torch, they wouldn't suddenly give it a modern flashlight.

It's called a Lantern.

 

[Silvermoon]

I'm sure they'll restore it to its original look. I can't see any reason to suddenly have a completely different style. If the Statue of Liberty lost its torch, they wouldn't suddenly give it a modern flashlight.

Oh I know they'll do as much as they can... but there's also the possibility that some methods (? - I think that's the word I want) ways of doing (or trying to replicate) the original architecture might not be compatible with trying to put in some modern safety measures (of course, I could be completely and totally wrong and fully acknowledge that ). Again, though, I know they'll do everything they can to restore it as closely as possible


Side note... that statue that they'd been working on for the past 2 hours is finally down:

 

[Morg]

 

[terry78]

Seeing it from the inside really shows how much damage there was.

 

[Morg]

 

[Marvolo]

I love old cathedrals for their beauty and history. I hate this.

 

[Travesty]

It's actually in better condition that I expected.

 

[ComicChick]

i think i read this morning that Salma Hayek's husband is donating over 100 million for the renovations

 

[Silvermoon]

Seeing it from the inside really shows how much damage there was.

At the same time though, it could've been SO much worse. I mean, while yes some was lost, the fact that any of the stained glass survived....there are statues within that survived, that they were able to stop the fire from catastrophically damaging the belfries (can you imagine if any or all of those bells had come loose/fallen? The lightest I believe is just under 1 ton, the heaviest is something like 13+ tons)

 

[ComicChick]

France's superrich join together to pledge over $675 million to help rebuild Notre-Dame, as donations flood in to save the devastated cathedral

 

[squeekness]

It's actually in better condition that I expected.

I was thinking this myself. All the more confident they will restore the place in time.

 

[Marvolo]

Has the Vatican responded or pledged any money? I'd think theyd want to pay to repair it, but the Vatican state operate on a deficit most years.