Now Introducing HBO Max Classic

[Marvolo]

As others have pointed out, there was just about nothing for investors, customers, or creatives working for the company to get excited about - satisfying no one.

Because Zaslav isn't a creator or interested in producing something purely for the satisfaction of having produced it. He's a glorified accountant who only cares about the bottom line. Thats fine for a business in a purely business sector. But this is Hollywood and media. It has to indulge indepent talent and artists. It has to indulge an extremely vocal type of consumer. It has to take risks. It has to spend money to please consumers. And it has to trust that it's talent knows what the hell it's doing. Him coming in dismissing the hard work of Emmy award winners and talented people with decades of experience was crazy.

If Zaslav only thinks about money and maximizing profits he's going to turn WB and HBO into a temporarily successful pariah.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

If Zaslav only thinks about money and maximizing profits he's going to turn WB and HBO into a temporarily successful pariah.

I'm not even sure that "temporarily successful" part will be accurate.

 

[Marvolo]

HBO Max Is Losing a Bunch of Movies on Sunday Night

Here's the full list of movies leaving HBO Max on July 31st:


2:22, 2017 (HBO)
10, 1979
300, 2006
A Bridge Too Far, 1977 (HBO)
American Gigolo, 1980 (HBO)
Austin Powers in Goldmember, 2002
Baby Boom, 1987 (HBO)
Bad Milo!, 2013 (HBO)
Bad Words, 2014 (HBO)
Battle: Los Angeles
Bells Are Ringing, 1960
Black Gold, 1947
Blinded by the Light, 2019
Blue Streak, 1999
Boys' Night Out, 1962
Brewster McCloud, 1970
Bridget Jones's Baby, 2016
Bridget Jones's Diary, 2001
Broken English, 2007 (HBO)
Camelot, 1967
Captains Courageous, 1937
Carefree, 1938
Casa de mi Padre, 2012 (HBO)
Changeling, 2008 (HBO)
Children of the Damned, 1964
City of Ghosts, 2013 (HBO)
Collateral, 2004 (HBO)
Collide, 2017 (HBO)
Company Business, 1991 (HBO)
Defending Your Life, 1991 (HBO)
Devil in a Blue Dress
Dressed to Kill (HBO)(Extended Version)
Employee of the Month, 2006 (HBO)
Epic, 2013 (HBO)
Fled, 1996 (HBO)
Friday the 13th, 2009
Girl Crazy, 1943
Grace Jones: Bloodlight and Bami, 2017
Igor, 2008 (HBO)
Illusions, 1982
In the Heat of the Night, 1967 (HBO)
Inception, 2010
Jason's Lyrics, 1994 (HBO)
Killer Klowns from Outer Space, 1988 (HBO)
Lady in White, 1988 (HBO)
Lars and the Real Girl, 2007 (HBO)
Laws of Attraction, 2004 (HBO)
Lethal Weapon, 1987
Lethal Weapon 2, 1989
Lethal Weapon 3, 1992
Lethal Weapon 4, 1998
Little Shop of Horrors, 1986
Logan's Run, 1976
Lottery Ticket, 2010 (HBO)
Magic Mike XXL, 2015 (HBO)
Monsters, 2010 (HBO)
Morocco, 1930
Murphy's Law, 1986 (HBO)
My Blue Heaven, 1990 (HBO)
My Dream is Yours, 1949
No End in Sight, 2007 (HBO)
On Moonlight Bay, 1951
Ondine, 2010 (HBO)
Presenting Princess Shaw, 2016 (HBO)
Private Parts, 1997 (HBO)
PT 109, 1963
Queen Christina, 1933
Rob Roy, 1995 (HBO)
Romance on the High Seas, 1948
Rush, 1991 (HBO)
Rush Hour 3, 2007
Salt, 2010
Santa's Slay, 2005 (HBO)
Seneca, 2019 (HBO)
Sense and Sensibility, 1995
Seven Brides for Seven Brothers, 1954
Shaft, 1971
Shall We Dance, 1937
She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, 1949
Show Boat, 1936
Sleuth, 2007 (HBO)
So This Is Paris, 1926
Special Agent, 1935
Splinter, 2008 (HBO)
Stage Fright, 1950
Stepmom, 1998
Summer of '42, 1971
Supernova, 2000 (HBO)
Sweet Bird of Youth, 1962
Take Me Out to the Ball Game, 1949
Tenet, 2020 (HBO)
The Accidental Spy, 2001 (HBO)
The Asphalt Jungle, 1950
The Barkley of Broadway, 1949
The Big House, 1930
The Birdcage, 1996 (HBO)
The Dishwasher, 2019 (HBO)
The Exorcism of Emily Rose, 2005
The Great Gatsby, 2013 (HBO)
The Green Hornet, 2011
The Haunting, 1963
The Hours, 2002 (HBO)
The Hunter, 2012 (HBO)
The Letter, 1940
The Life Before Her Eyes, 2008 (HBO)
The Omega Man, 1971
The One Below, 2016 (HBO)
The Opposite Sex, 1956
The Out-of-Towners, 1999 (HBO)
The Personal History of David Copperfield, 2020 (HBO)
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre, 1948
The Wedding Singer, 1998
The Wings of Eagle, 1957
The Woman, 1939
Uncommon Valor, 1983 (HBO)
Unlocked, 2016 (HBO)
Victor/Victoria, 1982
What They Had, 2018 (HBO)
Wild Wild West, 1999
Winter Meeting, 1948
Without Love, 1945
You've Got Mail, 1998
Zathura: A Space Adventure, 2005


Removing all these back catalogue titles is nothing but sabotage, and a big ol' **** you to subscribers.

 

[emc5466]

The best streaming service in the world is about to be destroyed by a producer of reality tv garbage.

 

[Iceman]

HBO Max Is Losing a Bunch of Movies on Sunday Night

Here's the full list of movies leaving HBO Max on July 31st:


2:22, 2017 (HBO)
10, 1979
300, 2006
A Bridge Too Far, 1977 (HBO)
American Gigolo, 1980 (HBO)
Austin Powers in Goldmember, 2002
Baby Boom, 1987 (HBO)
Bad Milo!, 2013 (HBO)
Bad Words, 2014 (HBO)
Battle: Los Angeles
Bells Are Ringing, 1960
Black Gold, 1947
Blinded by the Light, 2019
Blue Streak, 1999
Boys' Night Out, 1962
Brewster McCloud, 1970
Bridget Jones's Baby, 2016
Bridget Jones's Diary, 2001
Broken English, 2007 (HBO)
Camelot, 1967
Captains Courageous, 1937
Carefree, 1938
Casa de mi Padre, 2012 (HBO)
Changeling, 2008 (HBO)
Children of the Damned, 1964
City of Ghosts, 2013 (HBO)
Collateral, 2004 (HBO)
Collide, 2017 (HBO)
Company Business, 1991 (HBO)
Defending Your Life, 1991 (HBO)
Devil in a Blue Dress
Dressed to Kill (HBO)(Extended Version)
Employee of the Month, 2006 (HBO)
Epic, 2013 (HBO)
Fled, 1996 (HBO)
Friday the 13th, 2009
Girl Crazy, 1943
Grace Jones: Bloodlight and Bami, 2017
Igor, 2008 (HBO)
Illusions, 1982
In the Heat of the Night, 1967 (HBO)
Inception, 2010
Jason's Lyrics, 1994 (HBO)
Killer Klowns from Outer Space, 1988 (HBO)
Lady in White, 1988 (HBO)
Lars and the Real Girl, 2007 (HBO)
Laws of Attraction, 2004 (HBO)
Lethal Weapon, 1987
Lethal Weapon 2, 1989
Lethal Weapon 3, 1992
Lethal Weapon 4, 1998
Little Shop of Horrors, 1986
Logan's Run, 1976
Lottery Ticket, 2010 (HBO)
Magic Mike XXL, 2015 (HBO)
Monsters, 2010 (HBO)
Morocco, 1930
Murphy's Law, 1986 (HBO)
My Blue Heaven, 1990 (HBO)
My Dream is Yours, 1949
No End in Sight, 2007 (HBO)
On Moonlight Bay, 1951
Ondine, 2010 (HBO)
Presenting Princess Shaw, 2016 (HBO)
Private Parts, 1997 (HBO)
PT 109, 1963
Queen Christina, 1933
Rob Roy, 1995 (HBO)
Romance on the High Seas, 1948
Rush, 1991 (HBO)
Rush Hour 3, 2007
Salt, 2010
Santa's Slay, 2005 (HBO)
Seneca, 2019 (HBO)
Sense and Sensibility, 1995
Seven Brides for Seven Brothers, 1954
Shaft, 1971
Shall We Dance, 1937
She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, 1949
Show Boat, 1936
Sleuth, 2007 (HBO)
So This Is Paris, 1926
Special Agent, 1935
Splinter, 2008 (HBO)
Stage Fright, 1950
Stepmom, 1998
Summer of '42, 1971
Supernova, 2000 (HBO)
Sweet Bird of Youth, 1962
Take Me Out to the Ball Game, 1949
Tenet, 2020 (HBO)
The Accidental Spy, 2001 (HBO)
The Asphalt Jungle, 1950
The Barkley of Broadway, 1949
The Big House, 1930
The Birdcage, 1996 (HBO)
The Dishwasher, 2019 (HBO)
The Exorcism of Emily Rose, 2005
The Great Gatsby, 2013 (HBO)
The Green Hornet, 2011
The Haunting, 1963
The Hours, 2002 (HBO)
The Hunter, 2012 (HBO)
The Letter, 1940
The Life Before Her Eyes, 2008 (HBO)
The Omega Man, 1971
The One Below, 2016 (HBO)
The Opposite Sex, 1956
The Out-of-Towners, 1999 (HBO)
The Personal History of David Copperfield, 2020 (HBO)
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre, 1948
The Wedding Singer, 1998
The Wings of Eagle, 1957
The Woman, 1939
Uncommon Valor, 1983 (HBO)
Unlocked, 2016 (HBO)
Victor/Victoria, 1982
What They Had, 2018 (HBO)
Wild Wild West, 1999
Winter Meeting, 1948
Without Love, 1945
You've Got Mail, 1998
Zathura: A Space Adventure, 2005


Removing all these back catalogue titles is nothing but sabotage, and a big ol' **** you to subscribers.

Wow, that’s tons. This really is bad.

 

[Iceman]

The best streaming service in the world is about to be destroyed by a producer of reality tv garbage.

Yep, sounds like that’s exactly what’s happening here. This dude is a disaster.

 

[Prison Mike]

Because Zaslav isn't a creator or interested in producing something purely for the satisfaction of having produced it. He's a glorified accountant who only cares about the bottom line. Thats fine for a business in a purely business sector. But this is Hollywood and media. It has to indulge indepent talent and artists. It has to indulge an extremely vocal type of consumer. It has to take risks. It has to spend money to please consumers. And it has to trust that it's talent knows what the hell it's doing. Him coming in dismissing the hard work of Emmy award winners and talented people with decades of experience was crazy.

If Zaslav only thinks about money and maximizing profits he's going to turn WB and HBO into a temporarily successful pariah.

Hollywood and media has always been about business. The problem is that they spent too much money in the past, so much so that they are billions in debt and over leveraged. It wasn’t too long ago that people were complaining about streaming and how there so was so much content without the quality. He wants to course correct that which is a good thing. I think it’s still way too early to tell either way how he’ll do.

 

[Silver Surfer]

By the time Zaslav is done with Warner Bros, we are going to be begging Disney to buy it out.

 

[Marvolo]

Hollywood and media has always been about business. The problem is that they spent too much money in the past, so much so that they are billions in debt and over leveraged. It wasn’t too long ago that people were complaining about streaming and how there so was so much content without the quality. He wants to course correct that which is a good thing. I think it’s still way too early to tell either way how he’ll do.

Yeah, on Netflix. I dont know anyone that thinks that about HBO. HBO mostly produces high quality content. When AT&T bought WB the big fear and rumor was that they wanted to increase HBO's output and focus on quantity over quality. That they weren't happy with HBO's priorities. It's never been about HBO reducing their quantity. It was already at a respectable level compared to Netflix. They take their time and target quality. That's why HBO is a staple in television.

Discovery has come in and went in the other extreme direction. Killing HBO, taking away a chunk of WB's back catalogue, and based on Zaslav's history he will pivot HBO towards quantity over quality by producing more cheap garbage and monetizing everything he can. The stuff Discovery has prioritized.

This is course correction right off a cliff.

 

[Prison Mike]

I don’t think there’s anything to suggest he’s going to cut the quality of HBO. He has kept on Casey Bloys and his team and have said they’ll put more money in it. There’s a difference between HBO and HBO Max. I think there was a lot of bloat with HBO Max where they were spending a lot of money on shows but the return wasn’t there in increased subscriptions. But they have debunked the rumor that they were cutting 70% of scripted staff.

 

[Marvolo]

I don’t think there’s anything to suggest he’s going to cut the quality of HBO. He has kept on Casey Bloys and his team and have said they’ll put more money in it. There’s a difference between HBO and HBO Max. I think there was a lot of bloat with HBO Max where they were spending a lot of money on shows but the return wasn’t there in increased subscriptions. But they have debunked the rumor that they were cutting 70% of scripted staff.

HBO Max is HBO. Its their only app. Anything produced by HBO goes on that app. Removing a chunk of WB's back catalogue, animation, and canceling shows left and right is cutting the quality. That we pay for every month.

 

[Prison Mike]

Every month a bunch of movies gets rotated out and new ones come in. Every streaming service does that due to previous agreements. There hasn’t been any confirmation that they’re permanently removed and you will never see them again.

 

[samsnee]

Well they removed HBOMax original movies like the Witches for no reason. That would be like Netflix removing Don’t Look Up

 

[Iceman]

I think judging each movie separately is the best way to go. Some keep on making money after months and some stop making money after a few weeks. They should wait and see how a film is performing in the box office before deciding anything. Not that I would mind a return to the good ol' 90-day window wait. It's just the 45-day window by default that is dumb.

Agreed. If something is showing Maverick legs keep it out till it eventually dies off. Just put them on streaming as soon as the dailies fall below a certain level.

 

[Iceman]

Every month a bunch of movies gets rotated out and new ones come in. Every streaming service does that due to previous agreements. There hasn’t been any confirmation that they’re permanently removed and you will never see them again.

Having to have agreements with third parties is a weakness/dependence and why Netflix the original champion suddenly had it hard when those third parties wanted to compete themselves and restrict content. If you create original content without external licenses you can have things on there for good and your customers can relax and watch things at their leisure.

I remember the first time I was going to subscribe to Netflix to watch Lost and then realised it had been removed. Was seriously disappointed and didn’t subscribe again for a long time. Also remember when Sky (UK cable) announced Clone Wars was leaving and I had a week to watch the whole thing around work.

 

[Lily Adler]

The Impending Demise of HBO Max, the Best Streaming Service

 

[Pennywise]

 

[CaptainWagner]

They just keep finding new ways to hurt us...

Supposedly the Constantine series is still happening. But it seems like its game-over for any "niche" DC properties. And by niche I mean "doesn't show up on Zaslav's grandkid's lunchbox."

 

[Marvolo]

John Oliver Tears Into New Warner Bros. Discovery Bosses for ‘Burning Down Network’

 

[Detective Conan]

 

[Prison Mike]

I haven’t even heard of most of them

 

[Iceman]

More good news.

 

[Sithborg]

Oooff.

 

[Ninjablade]

Yikes. That's concerning.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

This is insanely gross. HBO Max is officially the worst service.

I haven’t even heard of most of them

And? I mean you're an adult, and have seemingly been so for awhile. Unless your big into animation, why would you know a bunch of shows aimed at kids and teens from the last 5 years?