Now that you've seen it, how would you say X3 measures against the first two films?

[Cyclops-Lives]

Kelsey Grammer stole the show! My problem with it was it was too long.

 

[borinquenknight]

Worst. It had a lot of very good scenes that fell apart when put together.

 

[Cyclops-Lives]

Kelsey Grammer stole the show! My problem with it was it was too long.

I mean too short! It should've been LONGER!

 

[borinquenknight]

Wolverine, Xavier, Magneto and the rest that had a good amount of screen time in the previous Movies didn't need much more development, but characters like Angel, Jean, even Rogue etc, could have needed some.

Here's how these characters were handled.

Rogue

"I can't touch my boyfriend, I think he's going to cheat on me, off to get the cure." No struggle if she should do it or not, nothing.

Angel

"Hi, I'm Warren, my dad wanted to cure me and I ran off, can I stay?"

Storm

"Nooo, Xavier is dead. Let's kill Jean I never liked her. Eat my lightning."

Jean/Phoenix

"I'm desire, joy and rage. First I kill Xavier and then I'll stand around doing nothing, maybe I'll go on a killing spree when the Movie is almost over."

LOL!

Piotr/Colossus

*shine/gleam* "Rogue is gone" *shine/gleam*

 

[RagingTempest]

Better than X1, worse than X2!!!

 

[PhoenixRisen]

One thing I like about X3 over X1 and X2 is that there is no "ticking time bomb" or "machine" as villain (unless you count the cure as a machine and Phoenix as a ticking time bomb--but both are more subtle--and DARE I SAY CEREBRAL). The action and suspense is more character/conflict driven as opposed to "beat the clock." There was no "Will they stop Magneto's machine before its mutant-making rays hit the UN delegates?" Or "Will they get to Xavier before he FINDS ALL THE MUTANTS?" Or "Will they escape from Alkali Lake before the dam bursts?" Or "Will Batman deactivate the microwave machine before it gets to Wayne Tower?" etc. Sometimes I like it, like in "Aliens" and the "Star Wars" trash compactor scene, but I think it is overdone and too easy way to build suspense with cutway shots to the bomb timer, dam cracking, etc.
P.S. Plus I notice that a lot of people are talking about Rogue taking the cure, so it has raised some issues as well.

 

[Latin_Princess1]

I Still Didnt See It Yet!!!

 

[Whack Arnolds]

X-Men is still my favorite...

 

[DACrowe]

No machine or time bomb?

The cure is just used in this movie as as a combination of the machine in X1 (except it is a chemical and works in reverse) and being created by a weird mutant like in the second movie. And no ticking time? Actually there is. Thjey have to beat the "bad mutants" from reaching the kid.

And I'll add it hasn't the suspense of the first two either.

 

[bruja_escarlata]

X2 is the best of the 3, no doubt about that but this one has some really good scenes and the Beast which was, for me, a great character in the film, Phoenix was amazingly scary and there are some fight scenes that were pretty cool....X2 is still my favourite, I could watch over and over again, but definitely there is a change in the pace and the way the story is told in X3, the change of director and the rush with which is was filmed...still, X3 has its moments...

 

[J.Howlett]

Still, the cure plotline was the absolute right way to go from X2. It was the natural extension of the storyline set up in the two films prior.

X-Men and X2, at their core, are about Magneto's and Xavier's point of views on the humans and mutants. The addition of a cure plot and what that means for every mutant and how the government uses that cure would bring both their point of views to a climatic head in this story.

It was the absolute right way to go but it's handled clumsy in the film.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

No machine or time bomb?

The cure is just used in this movie as as a combination of the machine in X1 (except it is a chemical and works in reverse) and being created by a weird mutant like in the second movie. And no ticking time? Actually there is. Thjey have to beat the "bad mutants" from reaching the kid.

And I'll add it hasn't the suspense of the first two either.

That's the idea behind the ticking time bomb...it adds suspense...makes you engaged in the movie. X3 was a random series of events.

 

[Orko Is King]

Worst of the 3 fo sho.

 

[J.Howlett]

Here's a question of anyone:

Do you think Bobby and Rogue's story would've been better off if Kitty and Piotr were in a relationship and Rogue sees in them what she'll never have with Bobby? The reason I use Kitty and Piotr is because they are part of the team (in training) instead of just random mutant students at the school.

But then, we get the announcement of the cure and we have Rogue struggling with what to do. Bobby doesn't particularly want her to do it but he understands why she would. Plus, it would've been interesting to see Rogue struggle with the fact that while the idea of being cure is great, it would mean that she would leave behind something that she's matured into, namely being an intricate part of the team and a role model to the younger students.

As far as being part of the team, what should've happened was an explanation of some sorts that Rogue's powers have matured and get them a bit closer to how she is in the comic.

 

[bes628]

its definetly the best

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Wolverine, Xavier, Magneto and the rest that had a good amount of screen time in the previous Movies didn't need much more development, but characters like Angel, Jean, even Rogue etc, could have needed some.

Here's how these characters were handled.

Rogue

"I can't touch my boyfriend, I think he's going to cheat on me, off to get the cure." No struggle if she should do it or not, nothing.

Angel

"Hi, I'm Warren, my dad wanted to cure me and I ran off, can I stay?"

Storm

"Nooo, Xavier is dead. Let's kill Jean I never liked her. Eat my lightning."

Jean/Phoenix

"I'm desire, joy and rage. First I kill Xavier and then I'll stand around doing nothing, maybe I'll go on a killing spree when the Movie is almost over."

Wolverine
Jean's back, better start loving her again even though we covered she doesn't like. So I am going to go stalk her everywhere she goes and then right before I kill her blurt out I love you. That'll get her to like me.

Xavier
I just realized I am a major *******. Let me tell you all the secrets I have kept from all of you in one conversation which you had no indication of before.

Magneto
I like killing things, I mean really killing things. Mutants, cars, humans, I don't need any reason to do it either. Also I take my most powerful weapon and do nothing with it until after my entire army has been decimated when she could have done the job twice as easily.

Cyclops
Hey I got killed in the one story that is suppose to be about me. Some people say Wolverine is the only one that could have stopped Jean. But really I could have gone in with Leech (making him a useful character) and depowered Jean and gotten close enough to her to calm her down. Then she could have sacrificed herself.

Multiple Man
You may remember me, I was kinda cool and had an interesting personity. Me and Juggernaut joined Magneto with out any idea of what his cause was. Then the wrote me out two minutes later.

 

[FieryBalrog]

easily the worst. Good ideas, poor execution.

 

[grey_jeanie]

Wow there's another similar poll but the opinion of X3 is much better. How weird.

 

[XCharlieX]

Since I havent seen the film I cannot vote on these type of polls yet, but I will come tuesday.

 

[X-Maniac]

Wolverine
Jean's back, better start loving her again even though we covered she doesn't like. So I am going to go stalk her everywhere she goes and then right before I kill her blurt out I love you. That'll get her to like me.

Xavier
I just realized I am a major *******. Let me tell you all the secrets I have kept from all of you in one conversation which you had no indication of before.

Magneto
I like killing things, I mean really killing things. Mutants, cars, humans, I don't need any reason to do it either. Also I take my most powerful weapon and do nothing with it until after my entire army has been decimated when she could have done the job twice as easily.

Cyclops
Hey I got killed in the one story that is suppose to be about me. Some people say Wolverine is the only one that could have stopped Jean. But really I could have gone in with Leech (making him a useful character) and depowered Jean and gotten close enough to her to calm her down. Then she could have sacrificed herself.

Multiple Man
You may remember me, I was kinda cool and had an interesting personity. Me and Juggernaut joined Magneto with out any idea of what his cause was. Then the wrote me out two minutes later.

Oh dear. Sorry to say all that reflects on the shallow puddle of your imagination, rather than on the movie.

Just back from my second screening with a mate who loved it! Packed auditorium, big queue for tickets! Great entertainment, it follows on from the previous two perfectly. Jean is so much more believable than 'cosmic devourer of stars', Storm steps it up, Angel gets a great introduction that sets him up for more, Wolverine is at last taking more responsiblity and not getting flashbacks to his past... It all works within the structure of a movie! Loved it!

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Oh dear. Sorry to say all that reflects on the shallow puddle of your imagination, rather than on the movie.

Just back from my second screening with a mate who loved it! Packed auditorium, big queue for tickets! Great entertainment, it follows on from the previous two perfectly. Jean is so much more believable than 'cosmic devourer of stars', Storm steps it up, Angel gets a great introduction that sets him up for more, Wolverine is at last taking more responsiblity and not getting flashbacks to his past... It all works within the structure of a movie! Loved it!

Lack of imagination for what. That film had less imagination than the man in the persistent vegatative state on the television in the X3. The characters DID NOTHING, they acted with abandon with no reason behind their actions, you know like good movies have.

 

[X-Maniac]

Lack of imagination for what. That film had less imagination than the man in the persistent vegatative state on the television in the X3. The characters DID NOTHING, they acted with abandon with no reason behind their actions, you know like good movies have.

No motivation? Are you sure it isn't you that's persistently vegetative!?

It was full of motivation, brimming over with it.

Ask me something specific and I'll go over the motivation with you.

 

[co2]

I thought it was terrible. It felt like they were rushing from one scene to the next, skippign the character development that made the fist two so good, and some terrible diologue. There were parts I liked, like a lot of the action, but action can't carry a movie.

Also it doesn't help that they killed Cyclops in a story based around dark phoenix. I can accept a lot of changes from comic to film, its a given and most of the time necissary, but not that.

Great point. Killing Cyclops was a major mistake in my opinion. That was a rich source of story telling had he been kept around and wanted to save Jean from herself. That tells you right there that this movie was more about action than substance. I feel like they kind of cut their own throat with that manuever.

 

[dayshawn1974]

Honestly, I enjoyed X3 more than the first or second film. I liked parts of X1 and I honestly felt Bryan Singer's hands were tied with regards to budget and all. X2 was a very good film, but not great to me or anyone I know. Just very good in spots. X3 is certainly flawed and not great, but I simply enjoyed X3 more during and after the film than X1 or X2. The three people that went with me, all of us between the ages of 30 and 34 enjoyed it and said we'd see it again. No one was saying this film will win an Oscar for anything. but we simply enjoyed it for what it was. An entertaining, action packed summer movie. Since we are all huge fans of the old Xmen Fox network cartoon despite the many differences we still liked more about X3 than we disliked.

I don't think anyone is a hater or wrong if they truly disliked this film. I just hope those who hated it don't think badly of those who really liked it, like I did. And I'll say something else I didn't think until I saw the film.

Provided he heeds the realistic concerns of some fans, has more time to work on the movie, and understands that the one he made might of turned a great deal of the fans minds who didn't like it if it were maybe 20 minute longer I have no problem at all and would encourage Brett Ratner to return as the director of X4.

Problems, flaws and all I saw enough in X3 to give him a list of things that could have made X3 better, and that he should work on for X4. But I'm all for Brett coming back. Especially after seeing the lackluster in my opinon Superman Returns trailers. Bryan Singer can stay with the man of steel. It looks like a polished version of part 1, IMHO.

X3 gave me my money's worth and it seemed most in my packed Cinemark theater in Il did as well. People enjoyed it. They didn't think it changed the world or was great, but they did enjoy it. That's why the box office I think will suprise when its all said and done, and not just after this first weekend.

 

[The Batman]

the flick was the worst of the three. Wolverine was neutered and acted like cyclops, halle berry is NOT storm, phoenix did jack, and mags acted out of character. Characters were just there and did nothing.

However, the performance from the xkids, james marsden, pat stewart, famke, and ian were great. everyone else i couldnt have cared less about.