Legend of Zelda Offical The Legend of Zelda Thread

[Wolvieboy17]

It doesn't have to re-invent the wheel, but they hardly add any new additions at all and they haven't since Ocarina. Generally it revolves around one gimmick that they change, time travel, ocean travel, turning into a wolf, with the core mechanics staying exactly the same.

Compare that to other franchises that build and improve upon existing franchises.

All the things Zelda could add. Deeper side missions, RPG elements, deeper combat system (skyward sword may have this but it remains to be seen exactly how different that will be) voice actors, deeper customisation of appearance, branching storylines, new game plus 1 type features, a deeper open world experience, giving you various things to do besides quests and possibly things to do after finishing the main story, conversation trees.

I'm not saying all these things would work in a Zelda game but something, anything to make it feel current. Nintendo have always prided themselves on being innovative, and since they can't compete with other consoles graphically, it would be nice to see them even try to compete with current gaming trends.

 

[Benstamania]

It doesn't have to re-invent the wheel, but they hardly add any new additions at all and they haven't since Ocarina. Generally it revolves around one gimmick that they change, time travel, ocean travel, turning into a wolf, with the core mechanics staying exactly the same.

Compare that to other franchises that build and improve upon existing franchises.

All the things Zelda could add. Deeper side missions, RPG elements, deeper combat system (skyward sword may have this but it remains to be seen exactly how different that will be) voice actors, deeper customisation of appearance, branching storylines, new game plus 1 type features, a deeper open world experience, giving you various things to do besides quests and possibly things to do after finishing the main story, conversation trees.

I'm not saying all these things would work in a Zelda game but something, anything to make it feel current. Nintendo have always prided themselves on being innovative, and since they can't compete with other consoles graphically, it would be nice to see them even try to compete with current gaming trends.

I'd be for all of this. Seriously, I used to LOVE Zelda but everyone since MM have felt.... Flat, if you will. I didn't even have the urge to finish Twilight Princess...

 

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Some people are just selective when it comes to Zelda, and ignore how most other games are "exactly the same."

 

[Spidey-Bat]

Compare that to other franchises that build and improve upon existing franchises.

Such as?

All the things Zelda could add. Deeper side missions, RPG elements, deeper combat system (skyward sword may have this but it remains to be seen exactly how different that will be) voice actors, deeper customisation of appearance, branching storylines, new game plus 1 type features, a deeper open world experience, giving you various things to do besides quests and possibly things to do after finishing the main story, conversation trees.

Majora's Mask and Wind Waker had a lot of additional sidequests. A new game+ feature wouldn't work because your progress is item dependent; you can skip half a dungeon if you already have it's item. Twilight Princess had a deeper combat system with the combos. Skyward Sword looks the same since you're not going to be able to get by mashing a button. IIRC, most people who've played the demos enjoyed combat.

But whatever, haters gonna hate.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

I'm clearly not a hater, i've given reasoned arguments and said i'm still going to get this. I'm a lifelong Zelda fan. You are so blinded in your love you can't even be analytical or critical? Thats just sad.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

I'm clearly not a hater, i've given reasoned arguments and said i'm still going to get this. I'm a lifelong Zelda fan. You are so blinded in your love you can't even be analytical or critical? Thats just sad.

Your "arguments" are just saying you want Zelda to have some feature from another game.

It'd be cool if Zelda were as deep as an Elder Scrolls game, but it's probably not going to happen and it doesn't mean it won't be a great game. I'm just tired of seeing people ***** and moan about every Nintendo game the past 2 generations.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Your "arguments" are just saying you want Zelda to have some feature from another game.

It'd be cool if Zelda were as deep as an Elder Scrolls game, but it's probably not going to happen and it doesn't mean it won't be a great game. I'm just tired of seeing people ***** and moan about every Nintendo game the past 2 generations.

No, my argument was pointing out just how many potential ways there are for a franchise to evolve, and pointing out that Zelda has made no significant changes to the format since Ocarina of Time.

Such as?

Look, by the common industry standard, if there is 5 years between a game and it's sequel, people expect a certain amount of improvement. Sure I love Zelda, but I don't think Nintendo earns a reprieve from that expectation.

Look at the difference between Red Dead Revolver and Red Dead Redemption, San Andreas and GTA IV, Oblivion and Skyrim (5 years development). Again, i'm not saying they have to reinvent the wheel by anymeans, but they haven't made any additions to the gameplay structure at all. The only thing that we can see thus far that makes this game any different from a previous Zelda game is the motion plus features, and a slightly different graphical style that doesn't look as good or as stylised as Wind Waker.

I hate blind fanboyism. I haven't '*****ed and moaned' about Zelda for '2 generations', i've loved and adored it, across multiple platforms. Hell, i'm even always Link in Smash Bros. But out of my love for the franchise, being criticial of it's lack of evolution makes me just someone complaining? Seriously, you are just so blind sided by this love of Nintendo. Sure we all have deep affection for Nintendo, having grown up with them, but WHERE are they actually heading as a Games company? Where are they going to be in 5 years? Still doing 'homage' to the old school games?

When I loved their games, they were fresh and new. Are Nintendo fans expected to spend the next 10 years waiting on Smash Bros 5, or another similar Zelda game, or 'Donkey Kong Country Returns....again'? Why is it complaining for wanting something new?

 

[jacobed]

I'd love for Zelda to be a bit deeper with some rpg elements or something, I think it'd be sweet. It really is time for the game to have voice actors, Link doesn't need a voice since he is the typical silent character. I don't wanna say oh its about time they change up the combat and/or the formula of going to dungeons because who knows with this game. This game may even have voice actors, we really know nothing about it. Except that for the first time since Ocarina the controls are different and the visuals look like they came right out of A Link to the Past.

 

[DIRECTOR]

Zelda deserves a bump

 

[NHawk19]

Is there a release date yet?

 

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Last I heard most people reckon around Holiday season. It'd be great to have it this summer but I doubt they would with OoT 3DS coming out in June.

 

[NHawk19]

Originally I thought it was April now december that sucks.

 

[Benstamania]

*cough*Possible reworked Project Cafe launch title*cough*

Just sayin'.

 

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Lol, I said that to my friend the other day.

"Watch Reggie show up at E3 and go 'Oh by the way, Skyward Sword is getting delayed to launch on the new console. Sound familiar?' "

 

[Benstamania]

Yup, if the rumors are true and this NintendoHD has a launch window of November you can bet news on LoZ has been slow due to the game being redone to take advantage of this HD system as a launch title.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

I honestly don't see that happening at all. Nintendo mostly pushed TP back because a) it was constantly delayed anyway and b) there were no other strong launch titles on the Wii.

I don't see Nintendo pushing Skyward Sword back a whole year to launch with Project Cafe. There's enough time for them to make a non-Zelda first party game to launch with it.

 

[Soapy]

Not if it comes out this November. (Which I doubt it will, but still.)

 

[Benstamania]

But PC is rumored to launch THIS November... right around the time of this LoZ game.

 

[GoblinWhirlwind]

To be honest, if PC launches this November, Wii owners should have nothing to worry about. If anything they'll do as they did with Twilight Princess, release on both consoles.

Besides Retro Studios announced they have a project "everyone wanted them to do" to launch on PC, and I'm guessing it's a return to Metroid. So it won't be like the new console will be so lacking in launch titles they'll have to delay Zelda for it.

 

[Benstamania]

Well yeah, I think if they do that there will be two copies... Again. Unlike before however, I'd expect the PC version to be the better version, based on graphics alone anyway...

 

[Spidey-Bat]

Not if it comes out this November. (Which I doubt it will, but still.)

But PC is rumored to launch THIS November... right around the time of this LoZ game.

Yeah, there is no ****ing way PC comes out this November. I will bet everything I own and ever will own on it.

 

[Benstamania]

If it does... Dibs on your TV.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

It would be really unsurprising if they held back Zelda as a launch title, i mean, they know the power of Zelda. It's the series people have been buying Nintendo consoles just to play for over a decade!

 

[Ponyboy]

It's the series people have been buying Nintendo consoles just to play for over a decade!

I bought a GameCube just for Wind Waker .... bit disappointed in Twilight Princess (my least favourite of the last 15 years or so)... but I love the series overall and looking forward to a new game. I haven't actually played my Wii in about 3 months

 

[Benstamania]

Same boat with Twilight Princess, only I was more than a "bit" disappointed with it. I actually darn near hated it... And I never expected to say that about a Zelda game.