Official Green Lantern News & Discussion Thread - Part 10

[EliteF50]

It doesn't look laughable, though. The jumps take a split second, and then they cut away from them. It's believable enough.

To each his own.

 

[SuperDaniel]

That's one of the best scenes EVER in a comic book movie.

 

[EliteF50]

What am I missing here. 0_0

 

[KalMart]

1. I didn't say that they should voice each and every character. I was saying that they have the characters there to use should they want to voice a different one (instead of like Kilowog or Tomar Re).

Yeah, and you said they'd save money because they already modeled 100's and were ready to go. It's not that simple....especially if those 100's weren't designed to be used like Tomar Re and Kilowog in the first place.

2. I think everybody knows the formats that are out there and there are translators for them as well. All that need be done is to translate the models over to that format and then work from there. It might be easier to stay with the vendors you've already worked with before, but at least you don't have to start from scratch if you translate the models (if that is necessary).

Uh...no. We're not talking about simple Photoshop/Windows paint files....or even going from AVID to FCP to Premiere...and none of these characters get modeled, animated, finished, rendered, and composited in a single application, either. We're talking about a lot of systems and software that are designed in-house to work with eachother in a specifically laid-out workflow. When it comes down to it, even if you go with the same place, you could spend just as much time getting everything unarchived, loaded up and integrated again after a 2-3 year break as you would starting from scratch. And then you'd still have to redo stuff for characters that are used differently from the first film....that's why it wouldn't be any less costly to really make a difference. You still have to pay for that time. Add to that, doubling or tripling the amount of full-CG/Space screentime form the prior film...and what are you really saving?

3. Actually, certain object or models are. An M1 Abrams tank is an M1 Abrams tank(the same thing goes for an f-35 fighter jet or what have you). It has its set dimensions and fidelity . You could buy one for $2000 but if you already have one, why buy another?

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If your tank was just a tank moving around in the last movie in the background, and it wasn't modeled/used to have people entering/exiting it in closeup....but you need to do that in the new movie...guess what. You'll have to spend time designing that capability into that existing model. The old tank may not have had doors that unlatch and swing open showing the internal controls surfaces, or a turret-mounted machine gun that actually cycles rounds through it...because all it had to do was move around in the background. But if you need that now, it's not going to do it if it's not there. Just like if you want what was originally a background CG character to have more facial expressions, range of mouth/eye movement, skin texture in closeup, etc.


You have to stop assuming and start learning when people give you truthful information about how things are actually done, dnno.

 

[jmc]

^ You're wasting your breath.

 

[Poni_Boy]

^ You're wasting your breath.

Yep, I realized that a few hours ago. You can't argue with delusional people lol

 

[akfj]

Of course. I agree that they didn't make 1000 models.



What's so funny? The cinematography in GL was absolutely amazing. Much better than Batman Begins, and that won back in '05.

Begins was nominated for that, but didn't win. Wally Pfister didn't get an Oscar until Inception.

 

[Poni_Boy]

Begins was nominated for that, but didn't win. Wally Pfister didn't get an Oscar until Inception.

I think Green Lantern has already won it's fair share of awards pre-release. Next up The Razzies

 

[TheVileOne]

The 30 models thing comes from Donald de Line's own mouth at the LA Film Festival screening.

There weren't thousands of different GL's in that crowd scene. Probably just replicated ones or they just mixed up the parts. Plus you could hardly discern any of them.

Just saying. Sequels don't cost less. A GL sequel would cost a fortune. Ryan Reynolds isn't going to take a pay cut unless all his next movies bomb.

 

[EliteF50]

Begins was nominated for that, but didn't win. Wally Pfister didn't get an Oscar until Inception.

Really? I thought it won. :\

Well, BB had better cinematography than Inception, imo.

 

[Poni_Boy]

The 30 models thing comes from Donald de Line's own mouth at the LA Film Festival screening.

There weren't thousands of different GL's in that crowd scene. Probably just replicated ones or they just mixed up the parts. Plus you could hardly discern any of them.

Just saying. Sequels don't cost less. A GL sequel would cost a fortune. Ryan Reynolds isn't going to take a pay cut unless all his next movies bomb.

And it ended up being 28 Lanterns that got the full CG render treatment: http://www.dailyblam.com/news/2011/...etails-for-the-films-28-main-alien-characters

To create the crowd scene they used parts of each alien to create background characters (Boodikka's head/Stel's arms/etc).

 

[Rock Sexton]

I think Green Lantern has already won it's fair share of awards pre-release. Next up The Razzies

Teen Choice Awards. LOL

 

[akfj]

Really? I thought it won. :\

Well, BB had better cinematography than Inception, imo.

So, when it comes to cinematography you are saying:

Green Lantern > Batman Begins > Inception

Good luck defending Green Lantern on that.

 

[Chewy]

Teen Choice Awards. LOL

 

[EliteF50]

So, when it comes to cinematography you are saying:

Green Lantern > Batman Begins > Inception

Good luck defending Green Lantern on that.

Why's that? You're saying GL didn't look absolutely beautiful? There were so many scenes that made me go, "wow".

 

[Rock Sexton]

Listen to all the frenzied booger eaters. Haha ....

 

[Rock Sexton]

Why's that? You're saying GL didn't look absolutely beautiful? There were so many scenes that made me go, "wow".

Seriously this thread just keeps getting better and better.

 

[The Sage]

Why's that? You're saying GL didn't look absolutely beautiful? There were so many scenes that made me go, "wow".

Definitely had its share of scenes that I liked visually.

 

[protocida]

I'm bummed about the movie's underperformance. Especially because I really wanted a Sinestro Corps War movie with Mark Strong being awesome.

Guess I'll have to settle for the inevitable reboot down the line. I wonder how they'll do it, then. Avoid the comics completelly and just start from scratch, maybe?

 

[KRIM]

Why's that? You're saying GL didn't look absolutely beautiful? There were so many scenes that made me go, "wow".

I'm genuinely curious as to what you're referring two. I can count maybe 2, if I'm generous. Certainly everything on Earth looked incredibly lacking for the massive budget this had.

 

[EliteF50]

I'm genuinely curious as to what you're referring two. I can count maybe 2, if I'm generous. Certainly everything on Earth looked incredibly lacking for the massive budget this had.

Off the top of my head:

-Outside of the bar (fight scene)
-Abin Sur fighting Parallax + getting mortally wounded
-Abin's flight to earth
-Hal gets the ring from Abin Sur + ride back home
-Carol berating Hal in the locker room
-The office, Carol berating Hal again ("Watch your back" "That's impossible, Bob")
-Every shot in Hal's apartment
-Hal getting fitted for the suit in Oa
-Hal's training on Oa
-Sinestro's speech
-The whole scene at the party (When Hal makes a race track)
-Every time Hal went to talk to Carol, especially the last talk
-Hal tries to convince the Guardians to help him
-GL in front of the sun

I'm sure I'm forgetting a bunch, but those are the ones off the top of my head.

 

[BestGirl]

Off the top of my head:

-Outside of the bar (fight scene)
-Abin Sur fighting Parallax + getting mortally wounded
-Abin's flight to earth
-Hal gets the ring from Abin Sur + ride back home
-Carol berating Hal in the locker room
-The office, Carol berating Hal again ("Watch your back" "That's impossible, Bob")
-Every shot in Hal's apartment
-Hal getting fitted for the suit in Oa
-Hal's training on Oa
-Sinestro's speech
-The whole scene at the party (When Hal makes a race track)
-Every time Hal went to talk to Carol, especially the last talk
-Hal tries to convince the Guardians to help him
-GL in front of the sun

I'm sure I'm forgetting a bunch, but those are the ones off the top of my head.

What was so spectacular about these scenes?

 

[EliteF50]

What was so spectacular about these scenes?

Those shots weren't as stunning as the rest, but I felt the lighting/camera work was absolutely perfect in those scenes.

 

[Poni_Boy]

Those shots weren't as stunning as the rest, but I felt the lighting/camera work was absolutely perfect in those scenes.

Honest question, can you point me to a major motion picture where the cinematographer screwed up an office environment? I mean, if those are "wow" scenes then there's gonna be some crappy stuff to compare them too

 

[KRIM]

Off the top of my head:

-Outside of the bar (fight scene)
-Abin Sur fighting Parallax + getting mortally wounded
-Abin's flight to earth
-Hal gets the ring from Abin Sur + ride back home
-Carol berating Hal in the locker room
-The office, Carol berating Hal again ("Watch your back" "That's impossible, Bob")
-Every shot in Hal's apartment
-Hal getting fitted for the suit in Oa
-Hal's training on Oa
-Sinestro's speech
-The whole scene at the party (When Hal makes a race track)
-Every time Hal went to talk to Carol, especially the last talk
-Hal tries to convince the Guardians to help him
-GL in front of the sun

I'm sure I'm forgetting a bunch, but those are the ones off the top of my head.

Now I'm even more puzzled. Cinematography-wise, these wowed you?