Official Green Lantern News & Discussion Thread - Part 3

[JAK®]

now that's a little uncalled for ain't it.

I'm not insulting him, it's a sincere concern.

 

[Showtime]

I think this thread has gotten just a bit off track; enough scrotum, balls, and syndrome talk.

 

[dnno1]

there are alot of films that have all of that in spades yet they don't see the financial success of Bayformers.

I doubt the has a real brand name like Transformers that all age demographics can relate to, so. If they did, they would be a franchise (not unlike Harry Potter, POTC, or even LOTR).

 

[dnno1]

I think this thread has gotten just a bit off track; enough scrotum, balls, and syndrome talk.

That's what I say. I don't even know why the guy even used the word.

 

[Saint]

Let me break it down.

Michael Bay make second Transformers movie.
Second Transformers movie have robot balls.
Robot balls silly.
People see second Transformers movie.
Robot balls not too silly.
People still see second Transformers movie.
People give money to see second Transformers movie.
Money turn second Transformers movie from not success to success.
Money come from people who see second Transformers movie.
People make second Transformers movie success.
Spring less silly than robot balls.
Spring no effect people seeing Green Lantern movie.
Spring not keep Green Lantern movie from being not success.
Sucker Punch not in 3D.

For speaking to Dnno the way everyone on this board wants to, you are my hero.

 

[Marvin]

I doubt the has a real brand name like Transformers that all age demographics can relate to, so. If they did, they would be a franchise (not unlike Harry Potter, POTC, or even LOTR).

GI joe is a similar and arguably bigger American brand than transformers. It was missing something. If Bay "the destroyer" made GI Joe, and sommers made Transformers, I'm sure it would be GI Joes success that we would be hating on and Transformers we wouldn't (ever) be talking about.

 

[terry78]

I think this thread has gotten just a bit off track; enough scrotum, balls, and syndrome talk.

The sad thing is on this board, you are actually not saying something like that ironically.

 

[KalMart]

I doubt the has a real brand name like Transformers that all age demographics can relate to, so. If they did, they would be a franchise (not unlike Harry Potter, POTC, or even LOTR).

The first movie made it a 'household name' in terms of movie franchises. Before that, it was a toy and cartoon from the 80's, for those who even remembered. Bay at least deserves some credit for that. Sure, there was nothing else out there like it at the time, but he's the one who ultimately presented it as a cinematic piece, and his action-movie sensibilities (along with the groundbreaking effects work) are what gave it its appeal. The 'brand' itself isn't what sold it.

 

[rashad]

I really can't wait to see those training sequences on Oa.

 

[Lencho01]

Have these been posted?

http://io9.com/#!5788707/ryan-reynolds-explains-the-relationship-between-hal-jordan-and-sinestro-in-green-lantern

Ryan Reynolds explains the relationship between Hal Jordan and Sinestro in Green Lantern

Charlie Jane Anders — On Friday, we were lucky enough to sit with the ring-slinging superhero himself, Ryan Reynolds, and talk about Green Lantern with a group of other reporters. And he explained how Hal Jordan sees Mark Strong's Sinestro as a father figure.

Plus we've got a ton more super high-res screencaps from the four minutes of new footage that came out over the weekend! Minor spoilers below...

So you might think of Sinestro as Hal Jordan's arch nemesis — but fans of the Green Lantern comic know that Sinestro starts out as Hal Jordan's friend and mentor. And indeed, Ryan Reynolds talked a lot in interviews at Wondercon about how much Hal sees Sinestro as a father figure.

Green Lantern, the film, is full of "daddy issues" due to Hal Jordan's long-dead father and all the new father figures he takes on in the film, explained Reynolds.

[Hal Jordan] needs mentors. I mean, this is a guy that's out of control at the beginning of our film. He's out of control in a more realistic way. He's not like in the band Poison and falling asleep on an oven which is turned on. He's out of control in a kind of a more realistic sort of a way. He's a rudderless guy, he's arrogant and misguided... He's shepherded by these guys. Mark Strong, who's such an immense talent and an immense presence, serves as a bit of a mentor. You have Kilowog, who's sort of a mentor. Then you have Tomar-Re, who's inducting Hal and really showing what this world is.

We asked Reynolds how he went about portraying a hero whose main strength is the ability to overcome fear — how do you dramatize feeling fear but overcoming it? And Reynolds explained how the utterly fearless Sinestro makes it possible to show Hal's struggle to overcome fear:

What distinguishes Hal from the other Lanterns is that he has the ability to overcome fear, because he experiences it. They see that as a weakness, that he experiences fear. Overcoming fear is the very definition of courage. It's moving on, in spite of it not because of it. It's what makes him the greatest Green Lantern of them all. He harnesses that fear that he's feeling, and he converts it into pure will. It's exciting to play that, but it's also easier to tell that story when you have its opposite next to you. When you're standing next to Mark Strong as Sinestro, who feels no fear and has no fear. And in his performance, you feel no fear. You hear no fear. It makes my job easier to show that contrast.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=31675

WC11: Lively Hints At Star Sapphire

by Adam Rosenberg, Contributing Writer
Sun, April 3rd, 2011 at 9:28am PDT

Flushed from the excitement of an overwhelmingly successful WonderCon movie footage debut, "Green Lantern" star Blake Lively sat down to chat about her character Carol Ferris and the important role she plays in Hal Jordan's (Ryan Reynolds) life. We only see Ferris for a brief flash in the four minutes of footage screened for gathered con attendees, but there's a lot of character to develop -- not just for this story, but for the larger mythology of the DC Comics ring-weilding superhero, as Lively is well aware.

"[Carol] has this relationship with Hal. They're each other's first love, they've known each other since childhood, she witnessed his father's death with him," she said. "So there is that history."

It's more than just history, though. In the comics, Carol eventually clashed with Green Lantern as the super powered Star Sapphire, a fact that echoes through the character written for Lively. "Keeping in mind the fact that she becomes a villain, you have to have those kinds of teeth apparent in the beginning so that it makes sense that her arc goes there. There were a lot of different levels to play with her, and I really appreciated not just being the damsel-in-distress."

Lively's chemistry with Reynolds is what nailed her the role, but it was her performance as the "pain-riddled, drug-addicted, drug mule mother from Boston" in "The Town" that opened the door. "I think that they saw from my role in 'The Town' that I was able to be dark and angry, and be a villain."

After that, it was simply a matter of putting the two actors in a room together and seeing if they clicked. They worked so well together, Lively only tested once with Reynolds, "to see if we could spar against each other and have that rivalry and tension, but also that kindness and caring."

Unfortunately for those hoping to see Star Sapphire crowned, it seems that Carol's darker underpinnings are only foreshadowed in "Green Lantern."

"If this movie is successful and we do a few more films, I'm pretty confident that Star Sapphire would show up," Lively said. "All the conversations are very guarded and protected, even with [the actors] because nobody wants to commit to anything, but I can't see Star Sapphire not showing up if we made more films."

Purple alter-ego or no, Lively was completely on board with honoring the source material for her character in every way possible. "There was a question [of whether] my hair was going to be blonde or brown. To me, it was never a question."

"Carol Ferris was a brunette and she had to be a brunette," she said firmly.

"When a story has been developing for so long -- this is one of the longest [running] comic books of all time -- there's such history there and there's a lot of responsibility to do it right and to do justice to these characters that people love so much."

Even if Lively wasn't familiar with the comic when she came to the production, she understands something about the importance of delivering a translation that appeals to an established group of fans. "I'm such a fan of 'Harry Potter,'" she said, laughing. "It's not healthy."

"When the books were over, I thought I may as well end my life. And now that the movies are ending, I don't know how I'm going to continue on. I sometimes fantasize about another J.K. Rowling [who] could create another character like Harry Potter."

Understanding fandom is important if you're going to be in a movie like "Green Lantern," a fact Lively seems to fully understand and appreciate. "To do something that brings people happiness and excitement, you only feed off of that energy."

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011...ly-loves-the-idea-of-star-sapphire-in-sequel/

‘Green Lantern’: Blake Lively loves the idea of Star Sapphire in sequel

April 01, 2011 | 12:00 p.m.

New footage from this summer’s “Green Lantern” was unveiled at CinemaCon on Thursday — but those looking to catch a glimpse of Blake Lively as Carol Ferris were out of luck. While audiences were treated to plenty of Ryan Reynolds’ Hal Jordan clad in a cosmic green, Lively was not featured in any of the scenes shown.

“That’s exciting for me, though,” the 23-year-old said backstage at Las Vegas’ Colosseum, where the annual film industry conference was being held. I would not want to sit there and watch myself. I get too shy.”

Although Lively had a memorable big-screen part opposite Ben Affleck in the actor-director’s “The Town” last year, the actress is still primarily known for her leading role on the popular CW teen soap “Gossip Girl.” So landing a major role in a studio tentpole was a big deal, she admitted.

“It’s intimidating, because it’s a movie that has so much money and so many stakes — so many people are so invested in it,” she said. “But what made me want the role that much more is that my character is a strong, militant, powerful woman who really challenges Hal. They’re rivals and are always butting heads. She comes in and says, ‘Men are weak too.’ It was just a really special female counterpart in a superhero film.”

Even though the movie doesn’t hit theaters until June, Lively said she’s already envisioning where she might take the character of Carol Ferris if the movie is a success and spawns a franchise. As comics fans know, Ferris has an alter ego herself — the Star Sapphire, a powerful and deadly foe of the Green Lantern.

“In this film, Carol is completely human and on earth. But she turns into a villain in the later comics, so potentially if it became a franchise I’d get to explore that, which would be so much fun,” she said. “I would love that. What you don’t see [in this film] is when they’re kids. They’re each other’s first loves. Where the movie picks up, they’re ex-lovers. So there is that tension — that rivalry — but also that love. They’re each other’s soulmates.”

– Amy Kaufman in Las Vegas

 

[Mako]

I think this thread has gotten just a bit off track; enough scrotum, balls, and syndrome talk.

I haven't read the last couple pages and for that I apologize but what the hell ?!

 

[KalMart]

I haven't read the last couple pages and for that I apologize but what the hell ?!

There's a theory that the r*b*t b*lls in Transformers 2 was the key to its success...and whether the movie should be credited for that, or if it's symptomatic of 3D scr*tum syndrome.

 

[JamalYIgle]

Moreover, ever since johns showed up and put the blame on the giant yellow monster, my hopes of ever seeing Parallax Hal Jordan recognized have been dashed. Now that would have been the sequel to end all sequels.

You do realize of course that if it weren't for Geoff's work on the series, you probably wouldn't be on this board arguing about four minutes of Green Lantern movie footage, right?

 

[terry78]

You do realize of course that if it weren't for Geoff's work on the series, you probably wouldn't be on this board arguing about four minutes of Green Lantern movie footage, right?

Quit making sense, dawg.

 

[Marvin]

You do realize of course that if it weren't for Geoff's work on the series, you probably wouldn't be on this board arguing about four minutes of Green Lantern movie footage, right?

That's like saying without Bay, Transformers wouldn't have been made, doesn't change the fact that the material has been changed to suit a certain mans needs.

I'm not even saying it's been changed for the worse, I'm just saying that I grew up understanding the character of Parallax and his role the DCU a certain way, and now parallax is pretty much what he is in this film. Hal Jordan to me, was the most tragic character in said universe.

so sure, thank you Johns

 

[Franklin Richards]

Marz' rape of Hal Jordan has no place in a movie. We gonna do One More Day in the new Spider-man movie?

 

[HighFivingMF]

Marz' rape of Hal Jordan has no place in a movie. We gonna do One More Day in the new Spider-man movie?

I concur. But I want to see Hal make a sling with the ring. I demand the ring-slinger's ring-sling.

 

[Marvin]

Marz' rape of Hal Jordan has no place in a movie. We gonna do One More Day in the new Spider-man movie?

Emerald Twilight, made way for the torch bearer story line of Kyle Rayner, and pretty much everything that exists today and it's all the sweeter for it. To retcon it right from the jump undermines everything imo.

The glory that is the Rebirth storyline is a pipe dream at this moment.
The bold mans fall and rise are pretty much why I read him, but that's me.

 

[Breogan]

You do realize of course that if it weren't for Geoff's work on the series, you probably wouldn't be on this board arguing about four minutes of Green Lantern movie footage, right?

Yep, we'd be arguing about this!

This is what was in the works before the Rebirth of Hal and the Corps.
It was going to be a comedy about a regular shmo with a cartoony imagination who accidentally gets a ring which makes his cartoon imagination come to life! (See the Mask for the inspiration) and he has to figure it out and save the universe alone!
No Corps and just a comedy, that is how WB saw Green Lantern at the time right before Geoff Johns.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Ha ha. Burgers for your ass.

I don't know how this got there but I'm leaving it.

Yep, we'd be arguing about this!

This is what was in the works before the Rebirth of Hal and the Corps.
It was going to be a comedy about a regular shmo with a cartoony imagination who accidentally gets a ring which makes his cartoon imagination come to life! (See the Mask for the inspiration) and he has to save the universe alone!
No Corps and a comedy, that is how WB saw Green Lantern at the time right before Geoff Johns.

This is a hilariously good point that by all rights should shut down any Johns hating GL fan forever.

 

[Marvin]

Yep, we'd be arguing about this!

This is what was in the works before the Rebirth of Hal and the Corps.
It was going to be a comedy about a regular shmo with a cartoony imagination who accidentally gets a ring which makes his cartoon imagination come to life! (See the Mask for the inspiration) and has to save the universe alone!
That is how WB saw Green Lantern before Geoff Johns,

Is this the same Jeff Robinov led WB that produced the Nolan verse Batman and now Superman...
They'd actually let one of their big guns that they want in their JLA movie be placed in a comedy?

sorry but Johns is a good guy but I don't buy that looking at the world today.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Emerald Twilight, made way for the torch bearer story line of Kyle Rayner, and pretty much everything that exists today and it's all the sweeter for it. To retcon it right from the jump undermines everything imo.

The glory that is the Rebirth storyline is a pipe dream at this moment.
The bold mans fall and rise are pretty much why I read him, but that's me.

Emerald Twilight sucked butt!!!


Cheap trick to drum up sales. Which ultimately failed because after the shock factor of ruining the honor of one of the Big 7 wore off, Kyle's book tanked. And now we're back to the status quo.

Johns came along and fixed Hal's dishonor with a plausible story line. It even had coincidental back up with facts like the premature grey and a sensible reason as to why a silly thing like a color could be a weakness.

If Johns went to Marvel and came up with a way to erase OMD, he'd be hailed as a saint.

 

[Breogan]

Is this the same Jeff Robinov led WB that produced the Nolan verse Batman and now Superman...
They'd actually let one of their big guns that they want in their JLA movie be placed in a comedy?

sorry but Johns is a good guy but I don't buy that looking at the world today.

This was years before Nolan's Batman.

Geoff Johns Rebirth was 2004
Nolan's Batman was 2005

We are talking about before any of that, before Geoff Johns on GL, WB had been in production to make Green Lantern a comedy with Jack Black.
Geoff Johns and the sudden success of GL put a stop to it.

Here - http://www.aintitcool.com/node/17971

And here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7dg-LfFkIg (by "comic book people" he means Geoff Johns)

And here - http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/12/15/jack-black-green-lantern/

"In 2004, rumors began surfacing that Black (hot off films like "School of Rock") was in talks to play a common man who found himself as the newest member of the Corps. Influenced heavily by the Jim Carrey hit "The Mask," the script was to depict an overweight hero using the power ring in comedic ways" http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2007/11/21/jack-black-green-with-envy-over-new-lantern/

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Emerald Twilight sucked butt!!!


Cheap trick to drum up sales. Which ultimately failed because after the shock factor of ruining the honor of one of the Big 7 wore off, Kyle's book tanked. And now we're back to the status quo.

Johns came along and fixed Hal's dishonor with a plausible story line. It even had coincidental back up with facts like the premature grey and a sensible reason as to why a silly thing like a color could be a weakness.

If Johns went to Marvel and came up with a way to erase OMD, he'd be hailed as a saint.

 

[Antithesis_SD]

This was years before Nolan's Batman.

Geoff Johns Rebirth was 2004
Nolan's Batman was 2008

We are talking about before any of that, before Geoff Johns on GL, they had been in production to make Green Lantern a comedy with Jack Black.
Geoff Johns and the sudden success of GL put a stop to it.

By "comic book people" he means Geoff Johns - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7dg-LfFkIg

Nolan's Batman was 2005, bro.

But you're right, they really were serious about this Jack Black headlined GL comedy. Would've been shameful. Thank the gods for Geoff Johns.