I never saw the reason for the Oliver hate. I thought he was pretty decent and much better than Raney to me. His art reminds me of Larocca's in a way and he's my favorite artist on this title since Immomen leftI prefer Raney over Paquette and early Oliver. The Oliver art we saw during the Cable arc wasn't as godawful-horrid as his earlier stuff (ie: Date Night).
No, no, no...lol. I hope Raney never returns to this title or any other X-book I readRaney leaps and bounds over Oliver.
Raney's work likes like crap. How can you even say he was good. I think if you can answer that question, then you can understand how I feel about Oliver. I guess its just different strokes for different folks. I dont see the "crap" that others see. The only complaint that I had with Oliver was that he drew the woman's hair short, mainly Jean and Rogue, but other than that, Id gladly accept him as the regular to this bookOliver's work looks like crap. How can you even say that he was even good?
I think they will wait until the arc that will center around issue #100 before having a proper apocalypse arc... that would be around fall 2008 (next year)...i'm sure ultimate apocalypse will be here before we know it.
the thing is I dont trust Kirkman to do anything big. I wish Vaughan was still here so we could see what he had in store with Apocalypse, bc that teaser really had me interestedDamn it! This book needs to do something big!
Where's Apocalypse?![]()
Some people are calling for the end of the Ultimate Universe...
I wish Vaughan was still here so we could see what he had in store with Apocalypse, bc that teaser really had me interested
Maybe he'll come back some day....the thing is I dont trust Kirkman to do anything big. I wish Vaughan was still here so we could see what he had in store with Apocalypse, bc that teaser really had me interested

Agreed.hmm interesting ^
hmm..... this sounds like the begining of a spin off.ULTIMATE X-MEN #84
Written by ROBERT KIRKMAN
Pencils and Cover by YANICK PAQUETTE
The X-Men are no more. Long live the X-Men! The man from the future, Bishop, completes his own team of mutants, ready to carry on the legacy of Charles Xavier. And their first task is to stop the attacks of the deadly Sentinels against their kind. And youll never guess whos behind the attacks or who the new
Ultimate X-Men are!
32 PGS./Rated T+ $2.99
Now what will you say if it really is the real Beast?Did you guys see the preview for #81?? It's here if you wanna see it.
I guess that's how Beast returns, having Mystique around. If that's it, it was pretty predictable. I'm glad Kirkman brought Sinister back. And we have another Ultimized (sp?) character, Stacy X
) Then I'll shut my mouth and I'll go running to a corner lol. I'm just saying that since she's appearing in this issue and the Ultimate Universe has something against bringing people back from the dead (I support that idea).Now what will you say if it really is the real Beast?
Yeah that was my first thought."The X-Men are no more. Long live the X-Men!" < Does that sound odd to anyone?
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