Comics Official ULTIMATE X-MEN Discussion Thread

[Czar Colossus]

I don't like Colossus as a druggie. Hope they resolve that without having him leave the team.

They have totally ruined Colossus! He's not even likable at this point!
(His mutant ability does not include super strength? It's drug induced?!!!!!!!)

 

[Jennifer Walters]

This whole Banshee thing is so stupid and ruined not only Colossus, but just look at how damn stupid all the others look once they hopped themselves up on it. I wanted to fry Angel and put him in a bucket with Colonel Sanders on the front of it.

 

[Czar Colossus]

Ageed; and Nightcrawler looks like he's ready for some S&M!
I remember when I first found out that Marvel was doing Ultimate X-men and that Colossus was to be part of it I was so glad that Colossus was going to get some attention. Now years later I feel nothing but regret. There is nothing here that makes him the great hero that the original was conceived as. Colossus more than any other Ultimate version is a very poor imitation!

 

[Valechan]

SO in one issue they ruin my favorite ult character by making him a drug addict, they create yet another "fanfic-like" team of X-Men, they make even more of a fool of ult Ororo, capture my second fave character and tell us that xavier is "resting" and "cannot be disturbed"... this books is even worse than it used to be. Pity the art is so pretty

 

[squeekness]

The art certianly is a nice change from Yannick's crap. I'll give ya that. I found this issue to be merely okay. I want to see where it's going before I decide how sucky this arc is.

 

[Havok83]

I actually liked the issue

 

[Venom160]

same here.

 

[terry78]

The Ultimate universe is infamous for making Marvel's well knowns into more "realistic, gritty" types, which basically means turning them into big ********s. So...not really shocked.

 

[squeekness]

I would be happier if Angel didn't have a beak for a face.

 

[Specter313]

I like it too. I really don't understand what the big fuss is about. Wasn't it not that long ago that most of the people here were *****ing that this book was becoming too much like 616 and didn't have enough differences? Well, here's your perfect one: Colossus doesn't automatically have superstrength. Don't like it? Well, you're not writing it so don't ask for something then ***** when it's not to your liking. A situation like this is a perfect representation for putting this universe in a world like our own. Why wouldn't there be some kind of drug out like this to upgrade mutant powers and why wouldn't some people use it for various reasons, good and bad? Yes, Colossus is using a drug, but he's not using it to hurt himself or hurt others, he's using it to try and fight evil. This whole thing is setting up for what could be a very interesting debate on the whole drug angle, so why don't all you complainers wait and see how this all plays out before you call for the new writer's head already.

 

[Havok83]

^^^ Good point

The only thing I didnt like about the issue was the horrible transition from the last one to this. I think Kirkman wrapped up his run really nicely and left it in a good position for any writer to come aboard, but it felt as if the last issue was completely ignored. Love Jean but she came back WAY too soon and with no explanation. Xavier being back at the mansion, back from the dead and around Scott is a huge issue that was conveniently swept under the rug and not even dealt with. And there were too many characters in the book. This issue felt like it could have been a few books into this new run and not the first. I just felt like we skipped a few. Still enjoyed it for what it was worth though. I just hope he explains the Jean return, explores Xavier and trims the fat on this ever expanding cast

Is Brooks the new regular artist bc I thought Larrocca was. Or are they going to be switching back and forth. That might be a good solution as Brooks has had trouble keeping a monthly schedule in the past. Either way, Im glad to finally see some great art back in this book. The Kirkman era was filled with some mediocracy and sometimes downright bad drawing

 

[Czar Colossus]

Just for the record I was never *****ing that this book was too much like 616, as a matter of fact I dropped it because I simply thought it sucked. So, seeing Colossus on the cover and at a glance the art looked good I decided to pick it up to see what was up (even though I don't care for the way they've developed his character). I didn't think that their treatment of Colossus could get worse, but I was wrong. Still, since I picked up pt. 1 I'll finish the arc.
Thank God this was not how the original Colossus was conceived and that we've got him back!

 

[Valechan]

You're so right Specter! Creating a power-enhancing drug and making the X-Men addicted to it is so very innovative and has never been seen in the 616 universe! Not even people like Claremont or Morrison thought of it! Not even characters like Cecilia Reyes or Quentin Tire would have dreamt to use abusive substances to increase their powers! You're so right this is so new and exciting!!

NOT

 

[gothicFLAVOURS]

I actually loved the issue. The only thing I didn't like was Jean being back already without an explanation (I guess we'll get one eventually) and in a weakened state. She defeated Apocalypse, she should have sensed Alpha Flight long before.

 

[Havok83]

I actually loved the issue. The only thing I didn't like was Jean being back already without an explanation (I guess we'll get one eventually) and in a weakened state. She defeated Apocalypse, she should have sensed Alpha Flight long before.

I prefer Jean weakened. Overpowered characters = boring and predictable. I can accept that she's burnt herself out a bit

 

[Specter313]

You're so right Specter! Creating a power-enhancing drug and making the X-Men addicted to it is so very innovative and has never been seen in the 616 universe! Not even people like Claremont or Morrison thought of it! Not even characters like Cecilia Reyes or Quentin Tire would have dreamt to use abusive substances to increase their powers! You're so right this is so new and exciting!!

NOT

When did I ever say that this was new and not done before? Never. So if you're going to start an argument, start it on a point that actually exists, smartass.

 

[gothicFLAVOURS]

I prefer Jean weakened. Overpowered characters = boring and predictable. I can accept that she's burnt herself out a bit

Yeah, I prefer her weakened too. She would be a deus ex machina if that wasn't the case, but she shouldn't be talking about herself being a goddess or whatever.

BTW, I'm the only one who finds interesting the way the Banshee drug alters mutants? I really liked Dazzler's spider things.

 

[Valechan]

I like it too. I really don't understand what the big fuss is about. Wasn't it not that long ago that most of the people here were *****ing that this book was becoming too much like 616 and didn't have enough differences?

That reads like "I love the differences between Earth 1610 and Earth 616". I just pointed out that what they're doing isn't exactly different from what we've seen already

 

[Havok83]

Yeah, I prefer her weakened too. She would be a deus ex machina if that wasn't the case, but she shouldn't be talking about herself being a goddess or whatever.

BTW, I'm the only one who finds interesting the way the Banshee drug alters mutants? I really liked Dazzler's spider things.

Dazzler's new look was the only one I didnt get. She looked like some alternate version of 616 Callisto. The Banshee drug is reminding me of the Terrigan Mist in Son of M

 

[UraniaChang]

Colossus using drugs doesn't bother me at all, why should a character be 'perfect' to make him good? Like Specter313 said, Colossus didn't use drugs for some stupid reasons, like, for 'fun'.

I'm more bothered by the 'Angel-turns-into-Beak-with-no-reason' and 'Jean is back cause she feels like it' things, because they completely make no sense.

 

[squeekness]

Yeah, I wasn't digging Angel's new look at all.

 

[Generation Lee]

OK wasn't that Ultimate Beak?

I have to say irt was a kick ass idea giving Peter Metal skin but know strength. I always like that about Beak in 616 looked like a bird and that was pretty much it lol. As I said before I don't care that xavier is resting or Jean is back. Kirkman may have in someway erased hie run but it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth regarding Phoneix so if she's back I don't mind. Glad Nightcrawler done the Christain thing and got over it, nice to see him back with his friend.

Good idea introducing MGH to mutants as a power boost and that they Canadians are not so "nice" compered to their U.S cousins.

 

[Specter313]

Nope, that was Angel. The Banshee just took his bird wings and pushed it to making him look like an actual bird. Interesting choice.

 

[Venom160]

Yeah Banshee seems to have just enhanced their abilities to a level that would take years to develop. Dazzler seems to be able to form her power into constant, solid forms. Angel has evolved more bird-like features. Nightcrawler's powers may have evolved somewhat like Nocturn's where he can form daggers. Rogue seems to have gained full control of her abilities, being able to summon previously absorbed powers and mixing them with others.

As for Jean suddenly being back that really doesnt bother me cause didnt they say that that would be revealed not next issue but the issue after that?

 

[Brand]

I read that Jean's return is to be explained in issue #96. I'm not 100% sure if it's true, but I certainly hope so.