Comics Official ULTIMATE X-MEN Discussion Thread

[Colossal Spoons]

Way more interesting than 616 Dazzler

 

[Venom160]

Did anyone else get a Nathan Petrelli vibe when Scott was shot? That scene was so ripped out of Heroes

Yep yep and it was just as senseless in UXM as it was in Heroes.

Dazzler needs to come back. She's one of my favorite Ultimate X-men

Thank you! Finally another fan of Ult Dazzler.

 

[El Bastardo]

Ultimate Dazzler rocked.

I wonder if we'll see a new X-Men spinoff for the new Ultimate Comics imprint? I know I'd like to work some things, although a few of those ideas got turned off when I realized that they freaking killed Longshot too.

 

[Havok83]

I loved how different Dazzler was from her 616 counterpart. Too many of the others were just copies of the 616 versiosn with a slightly altered background.

Id love to see Ultimate X-men relaunched, but man did they do good job at decimating it. I read Requiem and didnt even realized how many people got killed off. This scene surely was sad to see

Spoiler

 

[Venom160]

Ultimate Dazzler rocked.

I wonder if we'll see a new X-Men spinoff for the new Ultimate Comics imprint? I know I'd like to work some things, although a few of those ideas got turned off when I realized that they freaking killed Longshot too.

we may possibly see it considering that there is still an ultimate title that marvel is keeping very tight lipped about.

 

[UraniaChang]

Maybe the dead X-Men gathered together and overcome the underworld, find out the back door to the land for the living, and everything went wrong was because God and Devil's doing behind it...


My brain has completely melted after the exam.

 

[Venom160]

Eh if they were gonna pull a cop out like that they should atleast make it X-men related. Have Magician bring them all back and alter the memories of all the team into thinking Ultimatum never happened. As the arc goes on Magician's scheme starts to fall apart.

 

[El Bastardo]

Or, better yet, never again mention Magician or anything else from Kirkman's crap-run.

 

[UraniaChang]

Ultimate Magician is way too powerful, gonna be a more difficult trouble to get him out than in.

 

[Venom160]

Or, better yet, never again mention Magician or anything else from Kirkman's crap-run.

Ultimate Magician is way too powerful, gonna be a more difficult trouble to get him out than in.

true but I'd honestly take Magician than just having Jean go Phoenix (or maybe Dark Phoenix) and resurrect everyone that way. Maybe they can reveal that Proteus is still alive and he'll be responsible for bringing everyone back.

 

[UraniaChang]

I think Jean has more chance doing it, again, yes, boring, but maybe that's why she was hardly too upset about the whole "most of her teammates are dead" thing.

 

[Venom160]

....yeah she didn't seem so upset did she. Honestly I don't care how they come back just as long as they do. I had alot of complaints about the series but it still was one of my fav Ult titles.

 

[El Bastardo]

I doubt any of the dead characters are coming back. And the point of a relaunch should not be bringing the dead characters back. This is flawed reasoning.

 

[UraniaChang]

The rest of the X-Men left are mostly the boring ones, and if the writer keeps it up there won't be anyone left anyway.

 

[Don Yoyo]

Hey people, sorry for coming here for just a minor question, but I gotta ask.

It's about Ultimate Toad. I liked the character. Last time I saw him, he was fleeing the mansion with Firestar in his arms, trying to save their skins. So I hear he is dead, and yes I know they didn't show how it happened, but I would like to know, where it is mentionned that he is dead? I've read the last issues of Ultimate X-Men, plus the requiem, and I didn't see anything about him dead.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

A few mutants are just "dead" with little to no explanation.

 

[Don Yoyo]

Yeah, I get that, I just want to know in what issue someone specifically said he was dead I've seen no mention of Liz Allen's death, yet last I saw they were escaping together, Toad even had to carry her. So if Toad died, I don't think she would have survived.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I think his name was just mentioned in the "obituary" on the last page of Ultimatum.

 

[Don Yoyo]

Yeah, you're right, I checked and it is at the end of that issue. It sucks though that we didn't even get to see his body in the Ultimate X-Men Requiem, others that were killed off panel were seen.

 

[Specter313]

Cyclops. Magneto. Professor X. Wolverine. All pillars of the X-Men franchise, and, since "Ultimatum," all dead in the Ultimate Universe, along with many other mutants (and a handful of other heroes and villains to boot).

But seeing as how the Jeph Loeb/David Finch event drew some of its most potent moments and deaths from the cast of the "Ultimate X-Men," one of the biggest questions surrounding the future of Marvel's Ultimate Comics franchise is what exactly lies ahead for the mutant population. With the announcement at this week's Diamond Retailer Summit of a brand new series called "Ultimate X" by Jeph Loeb and Art Adams, planned for 2010, the publisher took a step towards answering that question. However, as Loeb explained to CBR, assuming an "X" in the title means a focus only on mutants would be a mistake.

"This isn't a book about mutants, superheroes or anything you're expecting. It's about life in the Ultimate U after a devastating event, and the hard choices we make for the greater good," the writer stated matter-of-factly. "I can't go into too many specifics without giving up the entire thing. What I can say is that, this is a difficult time in the UU, post 'Ultimatum.' Like with any great disaster in the real world, this is a time of healing and rebuilding. Mutants have been outlawed. Captain America is a fugitive. The Fantastic Four have gone their own ways. This might be the perfect time for 'evil' to seize the opportunity. 'Ultimate X' will address these issues."

While an exact cast and mission statement for the title remain under wraps, Loeb revealed that "Ultimate X" would utilize some of the story styles fans have seen him display in previous projects. From his many superhero mystery thrillers like "Batman: The Long Halloween" to super-powered social metaphors explored in his episodes of "Heroes," the story of many Ultimate characters uncovering the fate of the Ultimate U while searching for a new mystery character will create "very personal stories. People who've read the (top secret) scripts are surprised how different they are from my other work in the Ultimate Universe, harking back to things like 'Superman For All Seasons.' My hope is readers enjoy it as much as I've been."

Part of what Loeb would confirm of the series' plot involved picking up the pieces of the shift in society's view of mutants after the dual actions of Magneto murdering thousands of people and the unveiling of the fact that, unlike the regular Marvel U, the Ultimate mutants are not the next step in evolution, but the result of a deep governmental experiment. "It's dark. The law states that if you are a mutant, you are required to turn yourself in to the Federal Government or you will be shot on sight. This directive includes S.H.I.E.L.D.. Currently, Storm and Colossus are being held by the Government. Where and for what purpose hasn't been revealed."

And how will mutants see themselves, once they realize their true origins? Loeb explained that for "right now, it isn't so much about mutant identity as much as how the Government sees them. If mutants are the result of a lab experiment, can that experiment be repeated? Can it be reversed? Is this the key ingredient to the super soldier program?"

As with the other books of the Ultimate Comics rebranding, "Ultimate X" plans on combining long-seeded story points from the past decade of Ultimate stories along with new, fresh starting points. "I will say that, when #1 hits, it is very reader friendly. It's an entry point that's designed to get you hooked," Loeb noted, adding "There were many things we wanted to accomplish in 'Ultimatum,' and one of them was to have the afterward be as real as we could. The pain and suffering all these characters endured would be vastly cheapened by not holding to the loss of their loved ones."

When asked whether that process of mourning could be complicated by the resurrection of any dead characters, such as a certain survivor named James, Loeb said, "For the record, Wolverine is dead." Although despite the dire circumstances driving the mysterious story, the writer ensured CBR, "The book is about hope. That's the message."

One hope that has been brought out for fans to celebrate is the return of Adams to regular comics work. While the creators is best known for giant action and monstrous characters, like his brief stint with Loeb on Marvel's "Hulk" title, the writer assured readers that, "Arthur is the perfect match for ANY book! 'UX' is a combination of big stories and small, both of which Arthur can handle brilliantly. It's such a joy to see him back on a monthly title."

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=23287
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[UraniaChang]

A book for the dead like I presume?

Edit: Wait, that's Wanda. So she's going to cast her spell again? I hope so, the book is so deep at the bottom that all I care now is bringing back my favorite characters.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

What's worse than Loeb killing off a ton of mutants? Loeb writing a book about the remaining mutants along with some other characters. **** this book, just **** it :

Colossus held by the government

 

[Specter313]

A book for the dead like I presume?

Edit: Wait, that's Wanda. So she's going to cast her spell again? I hope so, the book is so deep at the bottom that all I care now is bringing back my favorite characters.

I don't think that's Wanda. Looks too young and she's dead too. Based on her seeing ghosts of mutants, I'm thinking that they seem to be doing an Ultimate Wicked.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I'd support an Ultimate Wicked only if it meant we'd get an Ultimate Shola

 

[Mike555]

I think that is wanda.(I can hope)