Majik1387 said:Honestly, Jodi Lynn O'Keefe is the best candidate I've seen in this thread.
Okay, now this is getting silly.natnut said:Hot body. Face too common looking.
"Objectively," is this too "harsh looking?"natnut said:Objectively, Jodi has an asymmetrical face and her jaw is too angular. Her face is too harsh looking.
I agree I'm partial to Katharine McPhee but I also admit Taylor Cole is a strong contender. Catherine Zeta-Jones/Monica Bellucci if they were younger and taller would also be prime candidates. Too bad CZJ is 36yrs and 5'5" only and Belllucci is 5'7" and 41 yrs.
Mr criteria is simple : tall strong looking figure, dignified even-looking facial features that convey strength and feminine warmth in equal parts.
Jodi has the body but none of the facial appeal--she will do well as a runway model but not as a Protagonist that will have the audiences rooting for her on the silver screen.
Too much va-va-voom sexuality!? lol Umm, let's just say I beg to differ.GL's Light said:Jodi Lyn O'Keefe would make a good Wonder Woman in most respects - but she has a va-va-voom sexuality that's ever present. It's just part of her being, and I don't think she can turn it off. That's at odds with the innocence and naivete that Wondy will need, at least in keeping with Joss's stated take on the character, and the spirit of the character in the comic books.
Jodi is more in tune with Talia or Catwoman.
Paganus said:"Objectively," is this too "harsh looking?"
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The symmetry thing is, as can be seen above, nothing more than a red herring.
This movie will be based on the comic book character; i.e., first and foremost, it's a female action role based on a formidable Amazon—the female equivalent to Superman, in fact. It simply will not be taken seriously unless the actress has the physical presence necessary for the role. Jodi has both the desirable facial features—soft but chiseled ("angular"), consistent with the comic depictions—and the physicality required for the role, i.e., a much better choice all the way around compared with someone like Katharine McPhee.
My criteria is also simple: someone who matches as closely as possible the iconic image from comics, etc., and who, more importantly, fits the archetype so the movie isn't taken to be a joke.
Fyi, Jodi Lyn O'Keefe has been acting for over ten years (we're a little past the runway model phase).
Paganus said:Okay, now this is getting silly.
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3-Nice chiselled features work in the hyperreal environment of comics but WILL look too over-the-top(harsh?) in real life/live action feature films where people prefer their females to retain their soft facial features.
jaz-1 said:Wonder Woman has always been drawn with a delicate yet sharp-angled face. A very “classic” comic book look. And it is still very appropriate for the most classic comic book heroine of ‘em all. Plus it’s true to the Greek beauty ideal which the portrayal of Wonder Woman should ideally correspond to (high cheekbones etc.). You really don’t want a Britney Spears babyface here. (And btw, trust me on this, the camera loooves cheekbones.)
And a "few" counter-points:natnut said:A few points :
1-The maxim photo has been air-brushed such that the facial asymmetry so apparent in the candid photos is no longer present. I've actually watched her past movies and the facial asymmetry is obvious, distractingly so if she plans to portray the ultimate in womanhood.
2-notice also that the photo you used to show she's not harsh looking is in the context of her being distractingly dressed in a tight fitting bikini showing the maximum of flesh allowed under PG rules. Focus on her face alone and it's clear she can't pass muster.
3-Nice chiselled features work in the hyperreal environment of comics but WILL look too over-the-top(harsh?) in real life/live action feature films where people prefer their females to retain their soft facial features.
4-Joss has said : NO established actresses. By your own admission, she's been in the business for more than 10 yrs.
5-She's not far and away taller than most of the other candidates--only 5'9".
Jeez, What a load of crock. She's clearly a very attractive woman who simply has strong features; there isn't a problem here, so please spare us the drivel.natnut said:Oh I'm not talking about cheekbones--or else Katharine McPhee with those killer cheekbones would be disqualified. High cheekbones are a well accepted and highly sought after mark of female beauty.
I'm talking about those overly high arched and prominent nose bridges AND especially those jutting, broad angled, masculine-looking jaw lines like Jodi has.
These are what would be described as masculine facial characteristics and would not fit the paragon of female beauty at all(as WW is supposed to embody).
natnut said:Simply put, Jodi looks strong and sexy but not sweet. If all we wanted was strong, we'd go for the current female body-building champion.
Taylor Cole, Katharine McPhee, CZJ or a much younger Monica Bellucci are able to convey both strength and sweetness at the same time in their features.
The main problem with WW as a character already is that audiences will have a hard time relating to a Warrior Demi-goddess. The actress playing her needs to bring some sweetness to the role so that the movie audience can get behind her when she's thrown into perilous situations on screen.
No, natnut, you're the one missing the point. She is not a one-dimensional character, which is what you are trying to make her out to be. All you keep talking about is how she should be sweet, soft, innocent, etc., but you continue to ignore the fact that she is also a formidable Amazon warrior. Yes, she's all those other things, as most of us here have already granted, but she's also a superstrong Amazon capable of immense violence when the situation calls for it. The contrast is what makes her a more interesting character, i.e., the one is lost without the other.natnut said:Wasn't that the main criticism of the comic WW when she became just an Ambassador-Warrior-Demi-goddess? The mainstream comic reading audience found it hard to relate to her.
What more the mainstream movie audience?
If WW the movie is to ever be a success, they damn well better have a relatable protagonist, not some remote God-like avatar. The choice of the actress is crucial in order to make her character relatable and in order to bring in the female audiences.
You have to think from the perspective of the average movie-goer if you want to make the movie accessible.
And btw Majik1387, saying no repeatedly without thinking up of reasons of your own doesn't make you correct.
Not bad; not bad at all. I have her number two on my list right now. I'm sure you saw the pic I posted earlier, but here's another (screencap, actually):jaz-1 said:Amelia Cooke would be my favourite. A talented, sophisticated, upcoming actress/model/athlete ("Canadian Elite Look of the Year" winner and award-winning ballerina) with a perfect Wonder Woman figure and an aristocratic, beautiful face. She also exudes intelligence and is one of the few actresses of Amazonian height - 5' 10".
Amelia Cooke, 26, 5' 10" (1.78 m)
Majik1387 said:Taylor Cole-Though she has the looks, talentwise not so much.