Comics Official X-FORCE Discussion Thread

[OutcryX]

looks like Vanisher got offed in Second Coming..and died somewhere alone....

 

[Specter313]

X-FORCE: SEX AND VIOLENCE #2 (of 3)
Written by CRAIG KYLE & CHRISTOPHER YOST
Art and Cover by GABRIELE DELL’OTTO
WARNING: This issue lives up to the title. Not for the squeamish or easily embarrassed, wink wink. Wolverine finds out why the Assassins Guild is after Domino, and it's a funny story. Well, Domino thinks it is. But Logan is grumpy and does't see the humor in it, probably due to the fact that Dom's actions have put a half dozen of the worlds deadliest assassins on their trail. And then things get complicated. Ahhh, romance.
32 PGS./Parental Advisory …$3.99

 

[javi1024]

great cover.....can we get the first issue now?

 

[El Bastardo]

No. Del'Otto is still drawing it, probably.

 

[Havok83]

I hate when Domino is colored with caucasion colored skin. She is supposed to be snow white with no pigment to her skin. That and her birth mark are her 2 most identifying features

 

[El Bastardo]

? Her skin looks white to me in that picture.

It's a slightly darker shade of white than is the background, that's all. And that would have been colored such for purposes of not blending in with said background.

It's nowhere close to the color used for Logan's face or arm.

 

[Havok83]

Thats white to you? Its peach and typcial of caucasian colored skin. Domino is supposed to look as white as snow, sugar and salt with no pigment. Basically her face shouldnt have any color to it. Its about as wrong as Elixir beign colored with blue hair, which is another error that I dont get that they let by. This is how her skin should be. Theres quite a difference

 

[Manic]

Monet is too white, Domino isn't white enough.

WHAT'S THIS WORLD COMING TO?!

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Suspot needs to be a few shades darker, while we're at it

 

[El Bastardo]

I know what Domino is supposed to look like, thank you very much. Different styles lend to different shades of color - "painters" tend to use different shades than do techno-colorists, and even then, how it comes out depends on the final rendition.

It's not Peach. It's too light to be Peach. It's somewhere beween a base white color and Peach, and again, it's to differentiate against the stark white background. The color used for Logan's skin is a typical fleshy color and not even overly tanned (aside from the arm, which is slightly blending in with the outfit), and Domino's face is nowhere close to that.

The background probably should have been a different color, which would have allowed for the pure white face. It is not, however, and so the face needs to be colored a tad darker - a darker shade of white - to properly differentiate and not appear to be hovering there aside from a piece of line art.

 

[Havok83]

You are welcome very much. The problem isnt limited to cover. She's been colored inconsistently for the past year. Her skin color is pure white; not a shade of peach, pink or whatever else. This wrong coloring of her skin isnt simply to differentiate between a light background bc in these images from X-force, she's colored just as dark as the other characters and the background around her is pretty dark. Marvel's coloring team simply has it wrong

 

[OutcryX]

yet another Havok/Bastardo smack down!! I love it!

 

[El Bastardo]

Simply because it's happened before doesn't make it a consistent issue.

And while I don't have any issues in front of me - I wish I did, but I'm at work - it's not like there's a single Marvel coloring team deliberately miscoloring Domino, for crying out loud.

The Zircher-UDON (I believe it was M3th) collaboration who did the Cable&Deadpool issues, of which you referenced a cover as a "properly" colored Domino, have an entirely different signature style than do Dell'Otto or Crain. For crying out loud, Zircher isn't a painter. He's a line-artist. These are different styles, and different renditions, and different finished products.

I've already explained Dell'Otto who, by the way, painting it himself is not making use of a colorist. I'm close to 100% sure Dell'Otto does it all himself.

Crain is also a painter, though he does it all digitally from my understanding, and I believe he also works solo and doesn't use a colorist. But his painted work is entirely different from other painters - Dell'Otto, for one, Stjepen Sejic, or a majority of the artists who work with Radical Publishing, or even, dare I say, Greg Land. Crain has always been muddy, and his colors are always very muted and similarly muddy. Surprise, surprise, muted and muddy white is going to look different and darker than a simple stark white as used by the UDON digital colorists. UDON is so blatantly simple in their coloring techniques, but it's always worked well with the type of line-art they deal with.

When you're dealing with certain styles, it's not miscoloring. It's the finished product of that type of work. If she was red, or black, or purple, I wouldn't be disagreeing. Variances of white, however, are still white. You don't ruin a piece of art by coloring one thing outside the rest of the art style.

 

[Havok83]

Simply because it's happened before doesn't make it a consistent issue.

Well I did say its inconsistent.

And while I don't have any issues in front of me - I wish I did, but I'm at work - it's not like there's a single Marvel coloring team deliberately miscoloring Domino, for crying out loud.

I wish it were just Domino but there has been alot of coloring errors in the past year or so. Aside from the Monet, Sunspot skin issues thats been discussed here, Guido's been black, Iceman's been colored with blond hair, Elixir's been given blue hair, Karma has had red and brown hair (thank god the former got fixed before it went to print). These are some of the more obvious ones I remember off the top of my head, but I know theres been more

The Zircher-UDON (I believe it was M3th) collaboration who did the Cable&Deadpool issues, of which you referenced a cover as a "properly" colored Domino, have an entirely different signature style than do Dell'Otto or Crain. For crying out loud, Zircher isn't a painter. He's a line-artist. These are different styles, and different renditions, and different finished products.

I've already explained Dell'Otto who, by the way, painting it himself is not making use of a colorist. I'm close to 100% sure Dell'Otto does it all himself.

Crain is also a painter, though he does it all digitally from my understanding, and I believe he also works solo and doesn't use a colorist. But his painted work is entirely different from other painters - Dell'Otto, for one, Stjepen Sejic, or a majority of the artists who work with Radical Publishing, or even, dare I say, Greg Land. Crain has always been muddy, and his colors are always very muted and similarly muddy. Surprise, surprise, muted and muddy white is going to look different and darker than a simple stark white as used by the UDON digital colorists. UDON is so blatantly simple in their coloring techniques, but it's always worked well with the type of line-art they deal with.

When you're dealing with certain styles, it's not miscoloring. It's the finished product of that type of work. If she was red, or black, or purple, I wouldn't be disagreeing. Variances of white, however, are still white. You don't ruin a piece of art by colorings one thing outside the rest of the art style.

Crain's been drawing Domino for well over a year. She hasnt been dark in every issue so its not simply his style that automatically makes it so that she's colored improperly. I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this issue

 

[El Bastardo]

I stopped reading after the first line when my eyes glazed over because you totally miscomprehended either what I wrote or what you yourself have written.

 

[ImWithTeamConan]

Can't wait to see what sexual position they find themselves in for the third cover.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Reverse cowgirl, probably.

 

[ImWithTeamConan]

With Domino firing guns in the air.

Dell'otto, I am going to psychically send you an image...........now.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

That'd be ****in' hot.

 

[javi1024]

previews for the next issue are already up on IGN. i go gaga whenever i see Choi's art. and Armor's back!

http://comics.ign.com/articles/109/1091423p1.html

 

[Manic]

Holy ****. Did Hellion's [blackout]hands just get blown off[/blackout]?

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Hope, anytime you wanna stop doing nothing would be greeeaaaat. No rush though, just sayin.

 

[javi1024]

Holy ****. Did Hellion's [blackout]hands just get blown off[/blackout]?

thats what it looks like. at first i couldnt tell who that was (wrong color for his powers, and its a little hard to tell what hes doing in the field), but you can see Laura's reactions in the background and its obvious.

 

[javi1024]

Hope, anytime you wanna stop doing nothing would be greeeaaaat. No rush though, just sayin.

i can see the boss from Office Space with his coffee mug giving her a drawn-out lecture.

 

[Manic]

If Hope went out into the field to fight with the rest of the X-Men and their students, she'd probably just stand there until everyone sacrificed their lives to make sure nobody hurt her.

Useless t***.