Okay the writers guild strike thing

[chosen1]

In my opinion it isnt even justified. TV and movies for the past few years have been unacceptable anyway. Have they earned their much wanted pay raise. No. Most shows on TV suck. In fact not one show has done better than the previous season not one.

 

[Ghostvirus]

So you glad you got that off your chest?

 

[PLAS]

look at it on the bright side, you'll have much more time to go out and play

 

[BlackLantern]

I am very anti-union and I would hope that the studios/networks stand up to the WGA and turn to the free market. I don't see it happening though...

 

[Immortalfire]

writers guild strike thing...brilliant title

 

[Showtime]

I am very anti-union and I would hope that the studios/networks stand up to the WGA and turn to the free market. I don't see it happening though...

Are you a writer?

 

[PLAS]

I am very anti-union and I would hope that the studios/networks stand up to the WGA and turn to the free market. I don't see it happening though...

your post negates your sig

 

[The Evolutionist]

In my opinion it isnt even justified. TV and movies for the past few years have been unacceptable anyway. Have they earned their much wanted pay raise. No. Most shows on TV suck. In fact not one show has done better than the previous season not one.

So, you're jealous because people who can write better than you (i.e. intelligently) are asking for more money?

 

[DOG LIPS]

I wish I could get paid to write stuff real good.


Like a sequel to Catwoman.

 

[BlackLantern]

your post negates your sig

how so???

 

[The Overlord]

I am very anti-union and I would hope that the studios/networks stand up to the WGA and turn to the free market. I don't see it happening though...

What free market? A drunk college student who make internet cartoons in his spare time? Now granted most TV sucks nowadays and for that alone I'm leerey of this strike action, but I don't see a huge amount of alterinates what there for the producers.

 

[BlackLantern]

I wish I could get paid to write stuff real good.


Like a sequel to Catwoman.

I'm sure someone has a fan fic about that somewhere.....I think writers should work as indpenedent contractors with the freedom to negotiate their own pay....

 

[BlackLantern]

What free market? A drunk college student who make internet cartoons in his spare time? Now granted most TV sucks nowadays and for that alone I'm leerey of this strike action, but I don't see a huge amount of alterinates what there for the producers.

I believe there are plenty of talented writers out there who would give their left nut/ovary to be able to write for a tv show or film. I dont like the WGA because they basically want to be able to charge members more for their "dues" so they can make more money.....

 

[The Evolutionist]

I'm sure someone has a fan fic about that somewhere.....I think writers should work as indpenedent contractors with the freedom to negotiate their own pay....

They tried that, and the studios payed them horrible wages. Hence they created a union to protect themselves and make sure they make enough money to live off of.

 

[SoulManX]

The reason the WGA is striking is because they get no respect. The script is the blueprint for the film or tv show, but the director or producer get top billing and more returns on the back end. Plus they want royalties on dvd and syndications, so can't fault them for wanting some more of the pie.

 

[BlackLantern]

They tried that, and the studios payed them horrible wages. Hence they created a union to protect themselves and make sure they make enough money to live off of.

That depends on your definition of "horrible wages"......I'm sure some writers out there think they deserve to get paid a lot more than they really should. I think the climate is changing such that if the studios/network locate a great writer, they would be willing to pay him a reasonable amount..

 

[BlackLantern]

The reason the WGA is striking is because they get no respect. The script is the blueprint for the film or tv show, but the director or producer get top billing and more returns on the back end. Plus they want royalties on dvd and syndications, so can't fault them for wanting some more of the pie.

also the WGA wants to be able to charge more "dues" to members of the guild.....its like the unions that try to get into wal-mart...they just want their piece.....I think the writers should be free to negotiate for dvd residuals and new media content without the WGA putting their hand in the writers pocket.....

 

[SoulManX]

also the WGA wants to be able to charge more "dues" to members of the guild.....its like the unions that try to get into wal-mart...they just want their piece.....I think the writers should be free to negotiate for dvd residuals and new media content without the WGA putting their hand in the writers pocket.....

I agree with you on the WGA but the DGA and SGA or the PGA are no better.

 

[BubbaGump]

In my opinion it isnt even justified. TV and movies for the past few years have been unacceptable anyway. Have they earned their much wanted pay raise. No. Most shows on TV suck. In fact not one show has done better than the previous season not one.

I hope you never make your way into the Writers Guild thing.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

^Too many initials!

 

[The Evolutionist]

That depends on your definition of "horrible wages"......I'm sure some writers out there think they deserve to get paid a lot more than they really should. I think the climate is changing such that if the studios/network locate a great writer, they would be willing to pay him a reasonable amount..

According to the WGA West website, the WGA was fonded by 10 screen writers after salary cuts took place. There wasn't much money in screen writing to begin with those days, so you can imagine how little they may have been getting paid.

As for the current climate, the reason the WGA exists is to set a reasonable salary while also protecting the work so that it doesn't get stolen before they can sell it. The studios will always look to get the writing for as cheap as possible, so their definition of a "reasonable amount" is probably much lower than most would consider reasonable. That's what big companies do, thus we have unions.

 

[BlackLantern]

In my opinion it isnt even justified. TV and movies for the past few years have been unacceptable anyway. Have they earned their much wanted pay raise. No. Most shows on TV suck. In fact not one show has done better than the previous season not one.

that is entirely your opinion......

 

[BlackLantern]

I agree with you on the WGA but the DGA and SGA or the PGA are no better.

agreed......

 

[BlackLantern]

According to the WGA West website, the WGA was fonded by 10 screen writers after salary cuts took place. There wasn't much money in screen writing to begin with those days, so you can imagine how little they may have been getting paid.

As for the current climate, the reason the WGA exists is to set a reasonable salary while also protecting the work so that it doesn't get stolen before they can sell it. The studios will always look to get the writing for as cheap as possible, so their definition of a "reasonable amount" is probably much lower than most would consider reasonable. That's what big companies do, thus we have unions.

and unions start out well intentioned, then realize there is alot of money to be made......convince their members that they are out for their well being, but essentially want their piece as well.....

 

[The Evolutionist]

and unions start out well intentioned, then realize there is alot of money to be made......convince their members that they are out for their well being, but essentially want their piece as well.....

I'm not disputing that the unions may take more than they're entitled to, I'm not close enough to the situation to say (I'm also guessing you aren't either, so perhaps the entire argument is bull****). But the guild does more than negotiate salaries, they also protect writer's properties and offer resources to help the writers become better at what they do.