Peter Parker: Stud - or - Dud?

[GregComicFan]

Hi,

One thing I never understood, or was constantly confused about, with Sam Raimi's three Spiderman movies was the question: Is Peter Parker a dork or a stud?

Think about it: Parker, in the comics, is supposed to be a dork - a dork who ends up marrying a supermodel (MJ) - which is supposed to be, you know, irony. So in Spiderman 1 the movie, we clearly see that Peter is a nerd, has barely any friends (only Harry), and would never be able to attain the likes of MJ. So in S1, Peter is pretty much a dork.

In Spiderman 2, MJ is ALL OVER Peter, gushing all over him. Secondly, the Chocolate Cake girl is without-a-doubt head-over-heels for him. And when Spiderman gives up his powers (and retires), we see scenes of Peter walking past attractive ladies and getting winks and smiles. So Spiderman 2 begs the question: Is Peter now a stud-muffin? So many chicks dig him.

In Spiderman 3, it gets more confusing. Peter and MJ are in love. Gwen Stacy (another model) obviously has a crush on him (after all, she immediately accepts a date with him to the jazz club) When Peter turns cocky (due to the black ooze), girls on the street look at him like he's nuts, yet at the same time, Betty Bratt (at the Daily Bugle), gets extra-close and cozy (almost sucking face) with Peter in that one scene. And to top it all off, the Chocolate Cake girl is still dying to bear Peter's children.


So which is it? Is the movie version of Peter Parker a dork (dork = guy who can't attract girls), or is he a stud (stud = guy who attracts girls)?????

Spiderman 1 - Peter's a dork.
Spiderman 2 - MJ/Chocolate Cake girl/Girls on the Street adore Peter
Spiderman 3 - MJ/Gwen/Chocolate Cake girl/Betty Bratt think Peter's a stud, but the Girls on the Street now laugh at him (just cause he likes to dance in the middle of traffic...hahaha!)

So it seems like with each movie, Peter is attracting more and more and more women. So in Spiderman 4, he'll have MJ, Gwen, Cake girl, and Black Cat all prying for him.

Greg

 

[FaT_tONle]

Any woman (or man) that thinks Tobey is a stud has some low standards...

 

[Mara Jane]

I think you answered your own question. He was a dork that grew up.

As for the women in the street being turned off by him in SM3, I'm not surprised. He was acting like a sleazebag (and not like himself).

 

[christhn]

No, he's not a stud. But just because he is a nerd doesn't mean he can't get girls. Everyone has attractive qualities, even if they aren't physical. And you'll notice most of the girls who like him, know him and talk to him regularly. He probably grew on them or they found him to be a nice guy.

 

[Mandi-chan]

No, he's not a stud. But just because he is a nerd doesn't mean he can't get girls. Everyone has attractive qualities, even if they aren't physical. And you'll notice most of the girls who like him, know him and talk to him regularly. He probably grew on them or they found him to be a nice guy.

My thoughts exacally.

 

[Immortalfire]

Chocolate Cake Girl has a name, ya know

 

[SuperFerret]

He's a sexy beast he is.

 

[Havok83]

Hi,

So it seems like with each movie, Peter is attracting more and more and more women. So in Spiderman 4, he'll have MJ, Gwen, Cake girl, and Black Cat all prying for him.

Greg

Kinda like the comics huh? Peter was a dork but he most certainly is not one anymore

 

[UltimateJustin]

He is no Matt Murdock (he lives in a brownstone) but he gets by.

 

[the Firestarter]

peter was always an endearing nerd... who was liked by mary jane because of his genuineness and good nature. i believe that his confidence (once he became spiderman) helped him to become more attractive... helping him to win over mary jane & some of the others. once peter bonded with the symbiote his overconfidence & increased aggressiveness intensified ... and began to turn off many people (including some the women who found him attractive prior to that point).

 

[Leenie]

He's a stud in a lovable and nerdy way. Women can find that extremely attractive.

I mean, c'mon ... In the movies and the comics, women are ALL OVER HIM! Except for maybe Black Cat. Wasn't Black Cat attracted to Spidey, but was disappointed to find out that it was Peter?

 

[blk_spidey]

Chocolate Cake Girl's name is Ursula

 

[Eggyman]

Confidence is a very attractive quality, that might explain his luck with women after being bitten. However, over-confidence (like we see in SM3) is a big turn-off . . . or so they say

 

[Slimy Wall Crawler]

I never saw Peter Parker as ever being a "stud" or "cool", rather he was someone who gradually became less nerdy as he got older. Probably the way a lot of guys on this board did.

Ofcourse, being Spider-Man gives him confidence, as does having his body tone out with muscles and abs. That also makes him more physically attractive to women. Plus he's a nice guy. So a nice guy that has an athletic body, even if he's kinda nerdy,---many women will like that. In the movies I don't think MJ is supposed to be a supermodel, they went with Kirsten Dunst who is pretty but not superhot. I think they wanted a girl you would believe would like Peter Parker.

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

I personally think that Peter Parker is a studly dork. Really, he's not that hard on the eyes at all and he's a very supportive, self sacrificing guy, which makes him attractive despite his social disabilities.

 

[Alexia Dark]

I personally think that Peter Parker is a studly dork. Really, he's not that hard on the eyes at all and he's a very supportive, self sacrificing guy, which makes him attractive despite his social disabilities.

I agree with this completely.

Unfortunately, that's what I think of the character of Peter Parker should be; that's not how I think of the character in the movies. In the movies, he was went from being a lovable dork, to an awkward dork, to an egomaniac dork.

I liked him for maybe 5 minutes in SM1. After that... everything I thought of him was my own creation, and when SM3 came along... he just became the world's biggest super-jerk.

 

[Nathan]

Peter is still a dork, especially in part 3. In SM 1&2 he was certainly shown growing up, but then Raimi had to throw im back into full dork mode.

 

[Spidey-woman]

Peter is still a dork, especially in part 3. In SM 1&2 he was certainly shown growing up, but then Raimi had to throw im back into full dork mode.

I agree, definitely a step back in his growth

 

[Ruined Angel]

As for the women in the street being turned off by him in SM3, I'm not surprised. He was acting like a sleazebag (and not like himself).

Yes. If a guy walked passed me like that I'd think it was crazy or just a moron. I wouldn't be turned on at all. I'm not surprised those girls glared at him like that, I expect my reaction would have been similar.

 

[DieSmiling]

I think he's clearly supposed to be a dork. I mean, in SM-3 when he goes strutting chicks are laughing at him.

And Ursula gushing over him doesn't count, she's a bigger dork than he is.

 

[Vaportrail]

Tobey to me always looked like Peter Parker back when he had wide-rimmed glasses and a sweater vest. The Peter Park in the 1990's, in his 30s looks totally different to me and especially in Spider-Man 2, Tobey looks less like him and (at some points) more like Ted Raimi.

Yes, Ted. Not Sam. Ted.

-Vaportrail

 

[maiko-san]

he's a combo-in other words a stork

 

[Raiden]

I think Raimi was trying to show that, when Parker thought he was suave and a stud in SP3, most women got turned off by his cocky attitude and obvious dorkiness. It is part of Parker's appeal that he is a nerd and not a stud, and he wins people over with his personality, and not pick-up lines.

 

[November Rain]

pete has always been sexy but never had the confidence to pull it off...

when he got the bod and the powers, so came the confidence and the sex appeal but to keep his hidden identity, this could only be expressed via spidey...

now with the black costume, this is exaggerated and allowed to flow through peter but now he walks on a tightrope where he's attracting as many people as he is putting off with his bravado.

All that we really see are the qualities that some people used to like and other didn't notice swapped opinions once spidey went dark...apart from ursula but she probably is dying for some cock anyway...

 

[Dr. Fate]

Maybe Ursula has a fetish for men who are shorter than her.