PG Rating: DISCUSSION

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It is a silly debate but honestly I think this applies to alot of films. I think some people are too caught up in the ratings and not in the film itself. Hell you could show 2 groups of young men the same film and say it's PG to one group and pg-13 to another and the Pg-13 group will like it more. LOL It's like the rating makes it cooler.
 
Thats because some people think PG is a turnoff because there's not many curse words in it or nude scenes or something. Fantastic Four doesn't need to be PG-13. It never needed to be. Hell Raiders of the Lost Ark was PG.

Raiders really doesn't count, because there wasn't a PG-13 rating back then.

Rocky Balboa is PG as was National Treasure. You know what. A better way to look at it is look at some PG-13 films and the gore, violence, and mature themes that will NOT be in Fantastic Four. PG-13 is not needed for this franchise. It is needed for most others. Superman should be PG in my opinion too.

Problem is, good PG films are pretty much a very scant minority. At least 95% of PG films suck, not because of mature themes, but lack of maturity.

The first film had quite a bit of language and adult jokes.

Which is another reason it needs to be PG-13. Alot of jokes in PG movies suck ass because they're just not funny. They're kiddy.

Yeah, the vast majority of jokes in PG movies are pretty much fart jokes.
 
OK, my freaking honest opinion is......this is a silly debate....and you are getting alittle too excited over this.....lmao....*smiles*
Umm...need I point out that there were debates over a certain actress's wig and a certain character's brow that went on for literally weeks?:woot::woot::woot:

>^^<
 
AD, I know you have the best intentions.. but for those of us who need to vent about this, can't you just let us. :(
 
^ That's PG opinon of yours is false. There are lots of great PG films. the fact is some of you can't get over the fact that Fantastic Four is PG material. It's like you grew up and it wasn't cool to watch it anymore.

This film also deals alot more with The Silver Surfer a character that's probalby not going to be in a sustained phsycial fight with anyone. You saw the action sequences in the trailers...weren't those good to you? Those didn't look toned down to meet a rating. Look at the trailers.
 
Raiders really doesn't count, because there wasn't a PG-13 rating back then.


MaskedManJRK said:
Problem is, good PG films are pretty much a very scant minority. At least 95% of PG films suck, not because of mature themes, but lack of maturity.

That's kind of opinion....



MaskedManJRK said:
Yeah, the vast majority of jokes in PG movies are pretty much fart jokes.

Great..........something we haven't seen in the TV spots....:yay:
 
Raiders really doesn't count, because there wasn't a PG-13 rating back then.



Problem is, good PG films are pretty much a very scant minority. At least 95% of PG films suck, not because of mature themes, but lack of maturity.



Yeah, the vast majority of jokes in PG movies are pretty much fart jokes.

EXACTLY! Exactly! Exactly!

PG movies do go into fart and poop jokes too much! Not to mention their unbearable slapstick humor. It's just ******ed. We do not need to be watching a film directed AT kids like this.
 
AD, I know you have the best intentions.. but for those of us who need to vent about this, can't you just let us. :(

I'm trying to point out there's nothing to vent about. Don't the trailers look suitable to you so far? Do you see any lack of action yet? There's no need for drug use, profanity, or soft porn is there? LOL Look at how the PG-13 films are the same as R rated films of the past now.
 
Please tell me what was so PG-13 about the first film that couldn't be in a PG film. I just don't think Fox bothered fighting for a lower rating as they are allowed to do per the info above.
 
^ That's PG opinon of yours is false. There are lots of great PG films. the fact is some of you can't get over the fact that Fantastic Four is PG material. It's like you grew up and it wasn't cool to watch it anymore.

This film also deals alot more with The Silver Surfer a character that's probalby not going to be in a sustained phsycial fight with anyone. You saw the action sequences in the trailers...weren't those good to you? Those didn't look toned down to meet a rating. Look at the trailers.

Action in trailers=Usually always kickass looking.
Action in the movie itself=Most of the time it's as awesome as the trailers' but usually, no.


Ghost Rider for example. I thought we were gonna get heavy and brutal kickass fight scenes and look what happened there.:o
 
Umm...need I point out that there were debates over a certain actress's wig and a certain character's brow that went on for literally weeks?:woot::woot::woot:

>^^<

Wig, pretty silly (except it did look bad in the early pics)

Brow....I'm not going say was silly in the least, that was something that the long time, in some cases 40+ year fans knew as a part of their childhood memories of their favorite character....was it something important to those of us that are not long time fans, no.....but I'm not going to disrespect them and say that that was a silly debate, I don't think it was, and after 3 years with these guys......I understand where they are coming from.....and they have every right to want what Kirby drew or whoever their favorite artist was....nothing silly about that in the least....
 
Err.. never mind.

Some of you guys are getting a little silly with your arguments.

I'm upset about the rating. Not because I feel it might be too kiddy, but because we are looking at a studio like fox. A studio that will edit a film to its bone to fit a runtime and a rating. That is plenty of reason to be upset and I'm offended by anyone who thinks I'm being ridiculous because of that.

HOWEVER, saying that the film can't be mature or will have fart jokes it a little silly, I would say. Also saying that 95% of PG films suck. Get real.

The rating isn't the problem, it is the reason for the rating. It is way too late in the game to say "Oh, lets just trust in FOX and the filmmakers and wait till the movie comes out!" That level of ignorance is just not my style anymore.
 
Please tell me what was so PG-13 about the first film that couldn't be in a PG film. I just don't think Fox bothered fighting for a lower rating as they are allowed to do per the info above.

Take it up with the people who rated the first film.

Look at planesonaasnake's post on the last page. It's really long. It's all the things from the first film that made it the way it was.

From screenit.com.
 
Please someone tell me what is so PG-13 about the first film? LOL

I'm waiting. And yes I agree the first film was mediocre but that's not the point. As far as I can tell the first film fits under PG. Everything I've seen in the trailer of this film is awesome and there's been pretty much Universal praise for what's been in the trailers. The fact is nobody thought that was gonna be PG and now suddenly the rating is a problem. Nitpickers guys. Enjoy the film stop worrying about the rating and the runtime. Pg or pg-13 who cares if it's good.
 
While riding his motorcycle, Johnny leans over and kisses a woman driving next to him in her car.
Ben complains that Johnny snuck two lingerie models into a flight simulator and then "crashed it."
Sue shows cleavage in various outfits (some of them rather revealing in terms of being low-cut and/or having some top buttons unbuttoned).
While talking with an attractive woman (and putting on his clothes -- nothing is seen), Johnny suggestively asks her if she wants to help him with his zipper. After she takes his temperature, she states "You're hot" and he replies, "Why thank you, so are you."
While snowboarding, Johnny inadvertently flames up and then lands in a snow bank. When the woman he's with comes across him in his snow hole, she sees him standing there in water up to his waist, shirtless (and presumably nude down below). He then sheepishly asks if she cares to join him, with her shrugging her shoulders in the affirmative and dropping her ski poles (the scene ends there, so nothing else happens). When Johnny returns to see the others, he's just holding a ski parka around his waist (and is otherwise nude and looking very buff).
Ben reluctantly calls his wife to tell her he has a "surprise" for her (his new look) and she says she has one for him as well. She then walks outside (on a city street) to meet him and is just wearing some silky lingerie (but nothing explicit).
Needing to help Ben, Sue turns invisible to get through a crowd, but Reed tells her to lose the clothes to complete the invisible look. We then see her bra around her invisible form, but she then inadvertently turns visible again, showing us her regular body in her small bra and panties (and she quickly places her hands and arms over those parts of her body). Reed sees her this way and says, "Wow, you've been working out." She then goes invisible again and we "see" her invisible form covered by just that bra and panties (that she apparently then takes off to make her way through the crowd -- meaning she's doing so completely nude, although nothing is seen).
When an adoring crowd starts to chase her, Sue apparently strips down (either nude or to her Fantastic Four outfit) to become invisible and thus get away from them (but we don't see anything).
During a montage, Reed walks in on Sue in the shower. She quickly turns invisible and then holds a towel over her invisible form (we don't appear to see any explicit nudity -- if any is there, it's fleeting).
A female reporter suggestively asks Johnny about Reed, saying that she's heard the latter can expand any part of his anatomy. Johnny snidely responds that he always thought Reed was a little limp.
Alicia (who's blind) feels Ben's blocky face, and he reacts to that in a pleasurable fashion.
We see some miscellaneous cleavage.
Alicia tells Ben that he just has to work on his touch (after accidentally crushing a glass), with him then enthusiastically saying he likes the sound of that.
Reed and Sue briefly passionately kiss.

A space storm blasts Ben into a space station. The wave also hits the others in the group, seeming to distort and knock them around.
Ben throws a mirror at Johnny (it slams into the wall and shatters) after the latter pulls a practical joke on him.
Ben jumps down onto a bridge to save a man, and then prepares himself for impact with a tractor trailer. Its cab then smashes into and folds around him, partly going up in the air. That sets off a chain reaction wreck of various vehicles on the bridge.
Cops hold guns on Ben (as the Thing) and as he runs off, it seems that a shot ricochets off his blocky shoulder.
Various large gas canisters then explode, with Johnny shielding a young girl from the dangerous flames, while Sue keeps the other explosions in check via a force-field. An approaching fire truck, however, turns sideways and slides down the bridge, ripping out part of the structure.
Victor punches and dents an elevator wall with his fist.
Trying to see if Ben (as the Thing) has any reflexes during a medical exam, Reed takes a large hammer and whacks him on the knee with it (causing him to inadvertently kick a chair across the room).
Sue's force field inadvertently knocks Reed back out of his seat to the floor.
Upset with the news he's received, Victor grabs a doctor by the neck and tosses him back against a medical light panel (breaking it and possibly killing the man).
Victor zaps a board member with a large electrical blast, leaving a large hole in the man's torso (that we can see through, but there's no blood).
While on fire and flying through the air off his motorcycle, Johnny lands hard on the dirt track but is okay.
We see that Ben has crushed Johnny's car into a ball. He then approaches Johnny and nearly punches him, but walks away. Johnny then fires several fireballs that hit but don't hurt Ben, prompting him to turn around and walk back to Johnny. He then throws a punch that Reed tries to block with his elastic body, but the punch hits Johnny anyway and blasts him back against a billboard.
We see two men lying on the floor with some smoking areas on their body (they're dead or unconscious from unseen blasts from Victor).
Thinking Reed isn't working hard enough to solve their crisis, Ben thumps Reed hard on the shoulder with his blocky finger. He then knocks down Reed who then wraps himself around Ben. Ben tries to knock him away, but Reed's lower half holds on and then proceeds to completely wrap up Ben until he gives up.
Ben smashes a toy (that Johnny was holding) into a wall.
Victor backhands Ben (who's back to normal) across a room, sending him crashing into a wall and knocking him unconscious.
Victor fires two energy blasts at Reed who tries to avoid them, but one blasts him out through the wall. Reed then tries to hold onto the outside of the building, but then loses his grip and falls hard to the street below (but is okay).
Victor blasts a doorman out through a revolving door, leaving him dead or unconscious on the sidewalk.
We see that Victor has super-cooled Reed (leaving him looking frosty) and then bends one of his fingers, causing Reed some pain.
Victor fires a heat seeking missile after Johnny who turns on his flame and flies away, trying to avoid the missile that stays right on his fiery trail. He eventually sends a fireball out onto a barge that catches on fire, causing the missile to strike it and explode (with Johnny then falling into the water, but he's okay).
Sue tries to knock down Victor with a blast from her force field, but he then blasts her backwards with an energy/electrical beam. She turns invisible and hits him several more times with force-field blasts, but he fires a shot back at her. He then grabs her by the throat and tosses her across the room. Ben then shows up and punches Victor quite hard, sending him flying across the room.
Victor races at and blasts Reed out of a building, sending them falling from the sky. They crash through a glass atrium and then down into a pool where they continue to fight underwater, with the pool eventually collapsing beneath them. They end up crashing into an industrial truck, with Ben then flying through the air across the street and landing on a car. Victor then fires an energy blast into a car, with various cops then shooting at him, but the bullets ricochet off him. Moments later, Ben picks up a car and throws it at Victor, knocking him backwards. Victor then blasts him backwards with another energy blast and prepares to strike him with a large metal rod, but Sue uses her force field to protect him.
Victor fires all sorts of electrical energy charges throughout a city block, blasting buildings and vehicles, and knocking some of the Fantastic Four around.
Reed wraps around Victor and then has Johnny go supernova on him, catching him on fire as Sue keeps both enclosed in a force-field. Victor emerges all molten hot, but Ben and Reed then shoot cold water on him, cooling him down into a metal statue.

PG-13 elements from Fantastic Four.
 
Please someone tell me what is so PG-13 about the first film? LOL
There are 2 very blatant murders on screen.

Well, this has been fun kids, but it's time for bed.

As for the Thing's brow, from a photographer's point of view, yes the argument for a bigger brow is very silly.

>^^<
 
Please someone tell me what is so PG-13 about the first film? LOL

I'm waiting. And yes I agree the first film was mediocre but that's not the point. As far as I can tell the first film fits under PG. Everything I've seen in the trailer of this film is awesome and there's been pretty much Universal praise for what's been in the trailers. The fact is nobody thought that was gonna be PG and now suddenly the rating is a problem. Nitpickers guys. Enjoy the film stop worrying about the rating and the runtime. Pg or pg-13 who cares if it's good.
I guess the fact that Doom puts a hole through a guys chest and Sue and Johnny are almost naked in severe scenes.
 
I guess the fact that Doom puts a hole through a guys chest and Sue and Johnny are almost naked in severe scenes.

The Doom chest thing is close for sure but that didn't make the movie great in fact I forgot about that scene. The Sue and Johnny scenes almost naked were not pg-13 at all. Read teh description of PG again. You can show nudity in PG to an extent but NOTHING. Is nudity even neccessary for this franchise...no. Is Doom blowing people's chest out needed? No. Would that kind of violence be needed in X-Men...uhh yeah.

This franchise should be PG...period. Look at this new clip too. It's all PG.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=11795522&postcount=654
 
Yeah just read planesonaasnake's post I reposted up there. All clearly stated.
 
Take it up with the people who rated the first film.

Look at planesonaasnake's post on the last page. It's really long. It's all the things from the first film that made it the way it was.

From screenit.com.

Actually its the whole damn movie.....


On the commentary they were talking about the scene with Doom in the garage when he shoots the the man with his electricity shots.....the first scene shot was him simply electricuting the guy, but to hit the PG 13 rating they changed that scene to alittle more gore with the whole "hole" in the guy thing......
 
There are 2 very blatant murders on screen.

Well, this has been fun kids, but it's time for bed.

As for the Thing's brow, from a photographer's point of view, yes the argument for a bigger brow is very silly.

>^^<

Again nothing that hasn't been show in 2000 PG films.
 
Whats it matter what it is rated? As long as its entertaning who cares?

Its not like FF was a Hsotel type material to begin with.
 
This should keep its PG-13 rating because of the intense action scenes it looks like its going to have.
 
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