Phase 3 Release Schedule Finalized

[DrCosmic]

All I want is one of those to be Black Panther.....

Yeah, honestly, they could announce Garbage and Garbage 2: Recycled as long as BP and Avengers 3 is in the mix, in that order, I'll be *just* fine.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I could go with either Black Panther or Ms. Marvel.

 

[Kiltman]

I don't think keeping it in early Mays is a must anymore.

People want to go see these movies, Marvel is no longer trying to just crack into the market. They are king and everyone will give them a wide berth.....specifically for the Avengers. Look at what Thor did last November, and that isn't a typical spot you'd release a film like that.

Transformers 4 is about to break a billion dollars, as painful as that is, and it's almost purely because if being released in the middle of summer and not really having much to go up against. (sorry Tammy fans)
Also the final Harry Potter released around that time and it's sitting pretty of all the Box Office stats. A Big established property will do very well there.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

Besides, Star Wars might be occupying those May release dates from now on.

 

[Neo_3]

Besides, Star Wars might be occupying those May release dates from now on.

One can open the opening weekend and the other pre-Memorial or Memorial weekend. There is already a Marvel movie for May 2017, so SW is in a position where they would join Marvel not the other way round.

 

[StarkTheProdigy]

Feige says the plan is to release a new character and a sequel each year: http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/07...plan?utm_campaign=fbposts&utm_source=facebook

 

[Dasher10]

Feige says the plan is to release a new character and a sequel each year: http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/07...plan?utm_campaign=fbposts&utm_source=facebook

Which means I need to do some revising

2015 - Ant-Man
2016 - Captain America: The Bloodstone Hunt, Doctor Strange
2017 - Thor 3, Captain Marvel, Black Panther
2018 - Guardians of the Galaxy 2, Incredible Hulk 2
2019 - Avengers: Infinity

This in addition to further seasons of Agents of SHIELD, Agent Carter, Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist and Jessica Jones in addition to new TV series about Moon Knight, The Runaways, Punisher, Hawkeye and Black Widow. Runaways would be a second ABC show. The rest would be Netflix series.

And then one-shots about War Machine, Iron Man, Sif, Falcon and Winter Soldier.

Plus, Avengers 3 would introduce Crystal and Medusa to the Avengers as a mother/daughter team alongside Ant-Man, Wasp, Doctor Strange, Captain Marvel, Winter Soldier, Falcon, Deathlok and Diamondback while they team up with the Guardians of the Galaxy who bring Hulk back to Earth along with new members Quasar (Phylla) and Adam Warlock and then finally the Defenders (Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Jessica Jones, Misty Knight, Coleen Wing and Moon Knight). That's in addition to the reformed SHIELD and even The Hand, The Maggia and Hydra helping to defeat Thanos. That's right, even Kingpin and Baron Zemo will aid the heroes since they don't benefit from Earth being destroyed. At least that's if assuming that promises of the Defenders characters showing up on the big screen if the shows are a success and talk about how Guardians of the Galaxy will affect Avengers 3 weren't just lies to give us false hope.

 

[cph9fa]

Guardians+Hulk has been debunked in no uncertain terms by Feige and Gunn. Otherwise, I pretty much agree with your overall schedule.

 

[Dasher10]

Guardians+Hulk has been debunked in no uncertain terms by Feige and Gunn. Otherwise, I pretty much agree with your overall schedule.

They only said no to a straight adaptation of Planet Hulk

 

[Mr.M]

I am going with this:

Ant-Man
July 17, 2015

Captain America 3
May 6, 2016

Doctor Strange
July 8, 2016

GotG 2
May 5, 2017

Black Panther
July 28, 2017

Thor 3
November 3, 2017

Planet Hulk
July 6, 2018

Inhumans
November 2, 2018

The Avengers 3
May 3, 2019

 

[Mr.M]

Inless Robert Downey JR agrees to do Iron Man 4 I don't think they would wait so long to do avengers 3.

Thor 3 could be opening same day as Justice league.And may 2017 could also be when ASM3 opens if it is released in 2017.

Fox's mystery X-Men related film In 2018 could be hurt If it's gambit or X-force.Of course if it's film with original cast then it may be able to hold it's own

Marvel wants a spectacle filled finale that will intertwine the cosmic elements along with the rest of the the story lines, so they need time for multiple GotG films or Inhumans. Otherwise they really is no payoff for the cosmic branch, unless they truly work better by standing alone. I would like to see Avengers self contained with the cosmic stuff separate, but that doesn't appear to be the case, especially with the Thanos tease.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

They only said no to a straight adaptation of Planet Hulk

and no to a team up between Hulk and the Guardians in any form.

 

[Dasher10]

Also, come Phase 4, I expect Blade and Ghost Rider to show up in their respective reboots along with a second animated theatrical release featuring the Power Pack. If Marvel REALLY needs to put out yet another new franchise, the obvious choices are War Machine, Darkhawk and Nova.

I also expect the Avengers to be so overstaffed that they divide themselves into the Mighty Avengers and the West Coast Avengers. One team will deal with Namor attacking the surface world, the other team will welcome Magdalene onto the team to stop Kang the Conqueror.

Phase 5 would be Civil War where the two teams face off over the Superhero Registration Act.

Phase 5 is also where I'd place Skrull Kill Crew at the earliest. I can't see this happening until there are stand alone Darkhawk and War Machine films since it's so obscure. The only thing making me feel otherwise is that Jay Roach is already pretty old and I feel like he'd be the best choice to direct SKC.

Edit, I had to fix my predictions since I saw evidence to the contrary. Inhumans will probably kick off Phase 4 with Thanos releasing Terrigen Mists across the Earth.

 

[Mr.M]

It could be an Incredible Hulk Returns type of movie, depending on the character's fate in AoU. But I fully expect a Hulk sequel to anchor PIII, otherwise Marvel will be bereft of an A-lister in the entire lineup. Obviously Cap 3 would be the main anchor, but that film should be able to stand on its own and wrap up all the loose ends. I'd like to see two big Avenger movies prior to A3. GotG doesn't fit that and I hope Marvel doesn't rely on that franchise as an anchor to Phase III. Hulk sequel would be the best bet. Put that baby in 2017, and there is your pre-Avengers 3 movie. Everyone sees it and it ends up doing anywhere from Cap 2 to IM3 box office.

 

[Dasher10]

Still, there were only four projects that were mentioned about being in development. Those are Blade, Captain Marvel, Inhumans and Black Panther. Ghost Rider and War Machine were specifically stated to not be in development while Black Widow was said to not happen until Captain Marvel sees the light of day. Blade got the least amount of talk with only talk of, "a script." Captain Marvel, Inhumans and Black Panther are really the three obvious choices so it's a safe bet that at least two of those will be part of Phase 3.

Keep in mind that if an Inhumans film is made, it'll probably center around Medusa or Crystal and neither of those are as popular as T'Challa or Carol Danvers right now. Plus, Inhumans will make Avengers 3 go from overcrowded to having what may very well be too many characters. And these are the only three new properties being teased enough to speculate about.

 

[def28]

Keep in mind that if an Inhumans film is made, it'll probably center around Medusa or Crystal and neither of those are as popular as T'Challa or Carol Danvers right now.

Outside the geek world BP, Miss Marvel, Hank Pym, Wasp, Doc Strange and Inhumans are all either relatively unknowns or completely "who the **** is that?" unknown. Till they have a film announced, get cast and get caught up in social networking it doesn't matter. GOTG went from D to A list in a year. And we know what happened to Iron Man as well. Whoever gets the movie first will be more popular and caught up in hype overall regardless of their current popularity.

 

[Dasher10]

Outside the geek world BP, Miss Marvel, Hank Pym, Wasp, Doc Strange and Inhumans are all either relatively unknowns or completely "who the **** is that?" unknown. Till they have a film announced, get cast and get caught up in social networking it doesn't matter. GOTG went from D to A list in a year. And we know what happened to Iron Man as well. Whoever gets the movie first will be more popular and caught up in hype overall regardless of their current popularity.

Okay, but BP had a cartoon recently. Doctor Strange had an animated movie a few years ago as well. Currently, Ms. Marvel has a rabid fanbase known as the "Carol Corps" who are VERY interested in the character coming to the big screen. Then the Guardians of the Galaxy have had a following since Annihilation Conquest back in 2007.

Marvel's mission statement back in 2005 was to make Ms. Marvel an A-lister. That was all of 12 years ago and appearances in Marvel Ultimate Alliance and two cartoons later. Now Kelly Sue DeConnick's take is nominated for an Eisner Award. This isn't counting Brian Reed's run which was incredibly underrated but equally acclaimed. Ms. Marvel could have flopped but the fans embraced the IP.

Even Iron Man had an animated series back in 1994, then had a highly acclaimed run under Kurt Busiek in 1998 followed by being part of the Brian Michael Bendis' New Avengers in 2004 and a starring role in Civil War in 2006. That combined with appearances in X-Men Legends 2 and Marvel Ultimate Alliance. Then when the film was about to come out, Iron Man got another greatly acclaimed run under Matt Fraction. Iron Man was already relatively well liked when the film was announced and even those only familiar with the 90s cartoon still knew who he was.

Even among the Netflix series, it took Multiple Avengers series along with a starring role in Thunderbolts to get people excited for Luke Cage while Iron Fist has presumably been greenlit because of Marvel Vs Capcom 3 along with the Fraction/Brubaker series.

Compare that to the Inhumans which Marvel has just started building hype around but people aren't sure about yet. Marvel can't just pull out an IP without any recent acclaim and tell people to like it, then assume that they'll bite. What matters is positive buzz to ensure a big opening weekend. Inhumanity was a non-event that was canceled after only two issues. The current series has been slapped with delays after Matt Fraction left the title. Hell, their most recent notable role as of late was a team-up with the Guardians of the Galaxy which was all the way back in 2009. That was five years ago. That along with one of the only three Inhumans who are known to people who don't read the title not being able to speak and another mostly known for marrying Quicksilver just leaves Medusa as the only member of the team with a decent following. I've seen people discuss Black Bolt and Crystal but i don't know any Black Bolt of Crystal fans, nor have I ever encountered anyone who claimed to be. I see people on these forums mention wanting to see Captain Marvel and Black Panther but for the most part, only Kevin Feige has been drawing buzz to Inhumans. The property needs a few more years to gain popularity before a big budget tentpole film can be released into theaters.

Oh, and there will only be seven issues released by the end of the year for the current ongoing. I'm not sure how you get hardcore Inhumans fans to love the property between now and a Comic-Con announcement on Friday.

 

[def28]

Black Panther and Doctor Strange don't even have a solo book. Ms Marvel is being pushed but the one that is selling high is Kamala. Captain Marvel sales are not that great right now regardless of having a very supportive fan base. GOTG did not sell anywhere near the levels it does now at all till the movie announcement. The GOTG 08 series was a low print run which is why issue 1 is going for like $150 right now and will surely go up more.

I'm not trying to rip on them, but those characters (GOTG being the excpetion with the film) really are just not that popular right now even within the comic world. Within the next 5-10 years I think they will be extremely but they need a film boost. The People outside of the comic world just do not know about them. And they don't have the merch or social media popularity like someone like Deadpool has.

As for Inhumans, it won't be tough at all once Marvel gets a movie going. People have said that about every property they tackle. The popularity difference between all these are not significant enough to matter compared to the film hype they will receive.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Dasher10, no love for Karnak?

 

[Dasher10]

Black Panther and Doctor Strange don't even have a solo book. Ms Marvel is being pushed but the one that is selling high is Kamala. Captain Marvel sells are not that great right now regardless of having a very supportive fan base.

I'm not trying to rip on them, but those characters just are not that popular right now. Within the next 5-10 years I think they will be extremely.

As for Inhumans, it won't be tough at all once Marvel gets a movie going. People have said that about every property they tackle.

Okay, but they've HAD some very long and successful runs.

Inhumans have historically been canceled each time a creative team leaves. That and Volume 1 wasn't really all that great and was filled with thin characterizations and only lasted for 12 issues before being canceled. Fast forward from the 70s to 1999 to get Volume 2 which was great until it got canceled after all of 12 issues. Volume 3 had an even worse fate where it was cancelled after only 4. Volume 4 was again, of a high quality but was once again canceled after only 12 issues. That brings us to an entire decade later where there's once again an ongoing but it's plagued by delays and conflicts between the creative team and editorial.

Ms. Marvel on the other hand had a very successful run under Chris Claremont back in the late 70s which landed her a spot on the Avengers. She sadly fell into obscurity due to Jim Shooter writing her off the title in the creepiest way possible to ensure that Scarlet Witch was the only woman on the team which backfired horribly and remains a toxic storyline to this day.

Kurt Busiek brought her back in the late 90s where she became a far more popular character, which was followed by appearances under Geoff Johns before Brian Reed and Brian Bendis made her mainstream with Carol being the central protagonist of Mighty Avengers and Brian Reed's run reaching 50 issues.

Which of course led into Marvel Now with Kelly Sue Deconnick getting nominated for an Eisner. That is how you build a property. It started in 1998 under the radar, gained traction in 2005 by editorial mandate and then naturally grew due to solid writing.

Guardians of the Galaxy came into being when Marvel wanted to retain the name of an old comic series that could be reinvented as a team which would take the space adventures of the Fantastic Four and never have to worry about then returning home to Earth. It worked because it was different from most of what Marvel was publishing and managed to get a very vocal following for Dan Abnett along with Rocket Raccoon showing up in Marvel vs. Capcom 3. Guardians was a success even before the film was announced.

If Inhumans is announced as a film at Comic-Con over Captain Marvel, it'll just be Marvel shoving them down our throats and demanding that we love them. Anyone remember New Coke?

 

[Dasher10]

Dasher10, no love for Karnak?

Karnak is dead right now.

 

[def28]

If Inhumans is announced as a film at Comic-Con over Captain Marvel, it'll just be Marvel shoving them down our throats and demanding that we love them.

The **** are you talking about?

I think fans will just be sad they didn't pick the franchise they wanted while the rest of the world is excited at a new property. They have mapped out this franchise better then any other studio and they know whats best. They are not looking for failure.

Ms Marvel will happen, as it very well should. Shouldn't matter the order. Release it when the time is right. Same with Inhumans, Black Panther, Nova, Runaways or whatever.

Okay, but they've HAD some very long and successful runs.

Compared to what? The current statuts of a character is what matters. But again I find it mostly irrelevant. Iron Man's solo still does not sell that great despite being a huge character. The popularity these characters get from film exposure and being connected will be too significant. It really does not mater if Ms Marvel or Black Panther is more popular with fans then Medusa right now. Cause that could change if Inhumans comes out first.

 

[Dasher10]

The **** are you talking about?

I think fans will just be sad they didn't pick the franchise they wanted while the rest of the world is excited at a new property. They have mapped out this franchise better then any other studio and they know whats best. They are not looking for failure.

Ms Marvel will happen, as it very well should. Shouldn't matter the order. Release it when the time is right. Same with Inhumans, Black Panther, Nova, Runaways or whatever.



Compared to?

Compared to Inhumans who so far can't keep an ongoing title for more than 12 issues. I mean, if Carol Danvers finds out that she's part Kree when exposed to terrigen mists and explores Attilan as an audience surrogate, then that's a decent compromise but I really don't want to have to wait until Phase 4 for a character who's already quite popular to appear on the big screen.

Keep in mind that a lot of this has to do with Katee Sackhoff's age. She's 34 and she'll be 40 by 2020. This would just be a massively missed opportunity, particularly after hearing that Marvel were looking into her schedule.

 

[Dasher10]

And for the record, I'm raging a bit because the site which shall not be named had Kevin Feige saying that he will not be "swayed" to make a Captain Marvel film by a public backlash and that there's already enough gender diversity in the MCU.

 

[def28]

Im all for Starbuck but Im not gonna rain down the hate on Marvel for not casting her. They are gonna get someone good and right for the role. Rushing Ms Marvel to fit early in their schedule just cause fans say so will be the worst mistake they make. As for the current runs....

again I find it mostly irrelevant. Iron Man's solo still does not sell that great despite being a huge character. The popularity these characters get from film exposure and being connected will be too significant. It really does not mater if Ms Marvel or Black Panther is more popular with fans then Medusa right now. Cause that could change if Inhumans comes out first. Just the way it is.