Phase 3 Release Schedule Finalized

[DarthSkywalker]

http://www.superherohype.com/news/310635-comic-con-interview-kevin-feige-talks-the-future-of-the-marvel-cinematic-universe

We haven’t’ talked about date for “Avengers 3,” yet, hoping for 3 years between.

Which makes the most sense still imo. 3 year span that cashes in. It is hard to look at investors and say, "wait an extra year for your biggest moneymaker".

I do find it odd that they didn't announce the films that will be released in the July 2016 and May 2017 slots, but announced GOTG2 for July 2017. We'll probably know by the end of the year, but it's still probable that July 2016 will be Dr. Strange and May 2017 will be Thor 3.

That is because GotG 2, even 3 years out, already has the major players in place. Plus, it hypes the film a week out.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Jon Spaiths said on Twitter that he's currently writing Dr. Strange. That maybe why it wasn't announced today.

 

[MbJ]

Two bits of info in the Avengers teaser reel solidified my belief we're getting Black Panther sooner rather than later.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Two bits of info in the Avengers teaser reel solidified my belief we're getting Black Panther sooner rather than later.

Okay I'll bite, what made you think that?

 

[KDM1986]

July 17, 2015- Ant-Man
May 6, 2016- Captain America 3
July 8, 2016- Dr. Strange
May 5, 2017- Thor 3
July 28, 2017- Guardians of the Galaxy 2
November, 2017- Black Panther
May 4, 2018- Iron Man 4
July 6, 2018- Incredible Hulk 2
November 2, 2018- The Inhumans
May 3, 2019- The Avengers 3

 

[Comicbookguy339]

We're definitely getting a Captain Marvel movie so switch out Iron man 4 or Hulk 2 with that.

 

[BatsDC]

I really don't think we're getting Inhumans

 

[Spider-Fan]

I'm hoping that the 3 movies in 2017 are Thor 3, Guardians of the Galaxy 2, and Hulk 2!!!!

 

[Mike Murdock]

That is because GotG 2, even 3 years out, already has the major players in place. Plus, it hypes the film a week out.

Yeah, I got the impression they announce the film after they've signed the major players for it. Obviously that wasn't the case with their current movies (particularly Ant-Man), but it's what Kevin Feige said before Comic-Con. If they signed the people they needed to, they would announce. It appears they're still in negotiations.

Anyway, the May 2017 date is the biggest mystery for me. They keep saying they're trying to do one sequel one new per year. Since they already announced GotG2 and Dr. Strange is likely July 2016 (with Cap3 that year), it could very well be an opportunity for Black Panther or Captain Marvel or Inhumans. The other alternatives would be a Black Widow movie or a Hulk movie (technically a sequel, but, with a different actor, might feel like an original movie). I had expected Black Panther, Captain/Ms. Marvel, and the Inhumans to be Phase 4, but now I'm not so sure.

ETA: I'm really thinking May 2018 is Avengers 3. It seems set up so GotG2 and Thor 3 are the two prior films, which would seem to lead in nicely to Thanos.

 

[The_Manhunter]

I really hope A3 is May 2019. That would be awesome having all those extra slots to fill up.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yeah, I got the impression they announce the film after they've signed the major players for it. Obviously that wasn't the case with their current movies (particularly Ant-Man), but it's what Kevin Feige said before Comic-Con. If they signed the people they needed to, they would announce. It appears they're still in negotiations.

Anyway, the May 2017 date is the biggest mystery for me. They keep saying they're trying to do one sequel one new per year. Since they already announced GotG2 and Dr. Strange is likely July 2016 (with Cap3 that year), it could very well be an opportunity for Black Panther or Captain Marvel or Inhumans. The other alternatives would be a Black Widow movie or a Hulk movie (technically a sequel, but, with a different actor, might feel like an original movie). I had expected Black Panther, Captain/Ms. Marvel, and the Inhumans to be Phase 4, but now I'm not so sure.

ETA: I'm really thinking May 2018 is Avengers 3. It seems set up so GotG2 and Thor 3 are the two prior films, which would seem to lead in nicely to Thanos.

See, I think Thor 3 will take the May 2017 date. It is most likely they would want a big hitter for that date. A Black Panther film, if it is going to happen, would probably be the late 2017 date. But if Iron Man 4 somehow happens, I think that will take the May date, while Thor 3 gets Nov.

I'm hoping that the 3 movies in 2017 are Thor 3, Guardians of the Galaxy 2, and Hulk 2!!!!

You know, I can see Hulk 2 being Planet Hulk, with the GotG showing, but still being its own thing that follows GotG2.

 

[Mike Murdock]

I think you want to go in strong for Avengers 3. And, unless the "new" film is something connected to Thanos (Nova Corps, perhaps), it doesn't make sense to have it appear right beforehand.

And I just don't find a 10 film, four year Phase 3 to be realistic. Avengers is their biggest draw, so I find it hard to believe they'd wait so long for it the next one. That's leaving money on the table. In addition, Phase 1 was six films. Phase 2 is five films. A 2018 release date would be 7 films. If the original plan was for Ant-Man to be Phase 2, that would have been six, six, and six, which makes a lot of sense.

 

[Marvelocity]

I find it really strange that the MCU is supposed to be about cohesiveness, and yet nobody is talking about Hulk vs. Leader to wrap up the storyline introduced in The Incredible Hulk. People love to tout the MCU as having all these overlapping elements, but then the movies come out and say, "Oh, it's been years since the aliens invaded New York" and yet Thor hasn't visited Jane despite having the ability to do so, etc. And nobody finds it weird that Captain AMERICA didn't come to the rescue when the President of the United States was kidnapped? LOL! So The Leader was developed years ago and never did anything? Hulk 2 should feature The Leader to keep some semblance of continuity in this thing that is supposed to be continuous. And because, you know, he's The Hulk's arch nemesis and all. Then you can do your Planet Hulk stuff after that.

 

[MadVillainy]

I find it really strange that the MCU is supposed to be about cohesiveness, and yet nobody is talking about Hulk vs. Leader to wrap up the storyline introduced in The Incredible Hulk. People love to tout the MCU as having all these overlapping elements, but then the movies come out and say, "Oh, it's been years since the aliens invaded New York" and yet Thor hasn't visited Jane despite having the ability to do so, etc. And nobody finds it weird that Captain AMERICA didn't come to the rescue when the President of the United States was kidnapped? LOL! So The Leader was developed years ago and never did anything? Hulk 2 should feature The Leader to keep some semblance of continuity in this thing that is supposed to be continuous. And because, you know, he's The Hulk's arch nemesis and all. Then you can do your Planet Hulk stuff after that.

They showed that Leader or at least the Doctor was taken prisoner by SHIELD in one of prequel comics to the Avengers, in addition to the Destroyer Armor. So Im not too surprised by him not showing up.

(See the last panel)
Also when would he have shown up? There hasnt been a Hulk solo movie

Thor didnt visit Jane was explained clearly in TDW. He had to protect the realm there was a lot of strife and war in the realms since the bi frost was destroyed in the first movie

As for why Cap didnt try and save the president, we're always gonna have that problem in a shared movie universe whether it's DC or Marvel. Why did Hulk not do anything during all of Cap 2 or Iron Man 3? Why didnt Fury call Stark during the events of the Winter Soldier as Im sure an Iron Man suit wouldve helped greatly.
Answers could be that the movies were happening at the same time period, the other heroes were busy, etc. But the real reason is money, you would have to pay Ruffalo, RDJ, or whoever for showing up for an extended period of time during whatever movie. And would you want every movie to be a mini team up?
I think looking for moments like that in the MCU (or DCU) are just nitpicking and are silly as honest complaints for the movies

 

[Mike Murdock]

Thanos appeared in Avengers 1, but isn't in Avengers 2. The Leader isn't necessarily needed in the second film just because he was eluded to in the first. Of course, if they have an idea for a good movie involving him then, by all means, they should do it. But the story takes precedent.

It's a conceit of a comic book story that the star of that comicbook saves the day unless it's a team up story. That's true even if it's a connected universe. It's just a connected universe, it's not a single storyline. There's a difference.

Thor and Jane in Avengers is the only real time that it could have come up and the only one I didn't think fit so smoothly. I'm not going to fault him, though. He was on a mission from Odin to stop his brother and didn't have time to track her down (wherever she was) just to say hello. He knew he would have a chance some day to return, that's good enough.

 

[Marvelocity]

I don't think it's nitpicking. I understand that not all superheroes should be in each other's movies. I think each guy needs his own trilogy, which seems to be what we're getting. What I want is just better writing that acknowledges the rest of the shared universe. I want to hear why certain characters aren't there. Not all of them. But it wouldn't be so hard to include a line in the movie about Cap is doing this or show on the news that Hulk is in his own battle. Sure, it can't always be done since all the movies aren't out at the same time. But Iron Man 2 did a good job of showing Hulk wrecking New York with Abomination on a monitor. Things like are easy ways to help bring continuity.

There's no reason to send Hulk to another planet when he still has The Leader he can fight here on earth. After that, sure, we're pretty much out of quality Hulk villains or at least those that warrant their own movie. I think Marvel is going too big too fast. When you fight Loki, Ultron and Thanos, you can't really come back down and fight the Masters of Evil. There's nothing bigger than Thanos. So take care of earthly business and then go galactic.

I'd say Cap's clean up list is Baron Zemo and Crossbones (and probably one last Red Skull appearance somewhere down the line)

Iron Man's woman already beat a whack version of The Mandarin, so I'd say Stark is absolutely done as far as solo adventures go

Thor still has to take on Enchantress and Surtur and close the series with Loki

And I'm sorry, but I don't really care about prequel comics or Agents of Shield since no one has said anything good about that show whatsoever. Doesn't it consist of a bunch of made-up characters like Coulson? What's the point?

 

[Spiderine]

If Im not mistaken, I believe the events of IM3 and Cap are happening concurrently with each other. The government was actually dealing with the terrorist cell of Mandarin when Stark happened to get involved and was thought to be dead.

As for Thor, Darcy mentioned they were desperately trying to contact SHEILD and got no response which leads me to believe those events of turmoil within SHIELD were beginning to take shape and HYDRA cells were preventing them from getting involved.

 

[Da Games Elite]

If Im not mistaken, I believe the events of IM3 and Cap are happening concurrently with each other. The government was actually dealing with the terrorist cell of Mandarin when Stark happened to get involved and was thought to be dead.

As for Thor, Darcy mentioned they were desperately trying to contact SHEILD and got no response which leads me to believe those events of turmoil within SHIELD were beginning to take shape and HYDRA cells were preventing them from getting involved.

If we take AoS into account, then no. Extremis takes place before AoS starts, while both Thor 2 and Cap 2 happen along the series's run time. If the series didn't exist, which, in all fairness, would hardly affect anything seeing as how it has hardly any impact at all to begin with, then your theory would hold weight.

 

[MadVillainy]

And I'm sorry, but I don't really care about prequel comics or Agents of Shield since no one has said anything good about that show whatsoever. Doesn't it consist of a bunch of made-up characters like Coulson? What's the point?

Im just saying it answers your question. You were wondering about Leader and that showed you what he was doing.

Im not even a fan of AoS but it's still canon.

 

[Chris B]

I think they'd be better off reserving the May 2017 date for a new property. Thor 3 should be fine the following November.

 

[Marvelocity]

Im just saying it answers your question. You were wondering about Leader and that showed you what he was doing.

Im not even a fan of AoS but it's still canon.

Yeah, it is cool that they addressed it, I suppose. But why do they have him prisoner/under observation? I would have liked to have seen what he did to end up there, ya know? Thank you for answering my questions and I apologize if I came off as rude.

 

[Shikamaru]

Regardless of quality (and the show does get much better), AoS is still canon.

Just because a villain is set up doesn't mean he'll show up immediately. Thanos isn't showing up till A3, the real Mandarin is still out there after 3 Iron Man films, Red Skull is still wherever the Tesseract sent him.

Cap worked for SHIELD post-A1, who would still be searching for the President. It's not like he was missing for more than a few days, just a few hours. Meanwhile, Tony and Rhodey were already on Killian's trails. By the time SHIELD would even locate his whereabouts, Tony and Rhodey (and Pepper) already finished off Killian. Also Hulk isn't a consistently active superhero, only in the case of emergencies. Banner wouldn't "suit up" when duty calls like Cap and Tony would, and especially not when there are hostages.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Presumably, even if The Leader were locked up, he's out now.

Anyway, here is my take:

July 17, 2015 - Ant-Man
May 6, 2016 - Captain America 3
July 8, 2016 - Dr. Strange
May 5, 2017 - Inhumans (really, pick from four or five ideas out of a hat)
July 28, 2017 - GOTG2
November 3, 2017 - Thor 3
May 3, 2018 - Avengers 3
July 6, 2018 - Black Panther
November 2, 2018 - Hulk
May 3, 2019 - Captain Marvel

If Agents of SHIELD got to keep going for five seasons, it would allow season 3 to go from Ant-Man to Captain America 3 (so maybe some flashback heavy stuff given the connections to the past). Season 4 would build up to the Inhumans (I'm not convinced they're this high on Marvel's priority list, but, given the possible Skye connections, it wouldn't be a bad idea to explore here). Season 5 would have three movies and build up to Avengers 3. Presumably, that would be a happy time to end the show if they so chose.

 

[Flint Marko]

I don't think it's nitpicking. I understand that not all superheroes should be in each other's movies. I think each guy needs his own trilogy, which seems to be what we're getting. What I want is just better writing that acknowledges the rest of the shared universe. I want to hear why certain characters aren't there. Not all of them. But it wouldn't be so hard to include a line in the movie about Cap is doing this or show on the news that Hulk is in his own battle. Sure, it can't always be done since all the movies aren't out at the same time. But Iron Man 2 did a good job of showing Hulk wrecking New York with Abomination on a monitor. Things like are easy ways to help bring continuity.

There's no reason to send Hulk to another planet when he still has The Leader he can fight here on earth. After that, sure, we're pretty much out of quality Hulk villains or at least those that warrant their own movie. I think Marvel is going too big too fast. When you fight Loki, Ultron and Thanos, you can't really come back down and fight the Masters of Evil. There's nothing bigger than Thanos. So take care of earthly business and then go galactic.

I'd say Cap's clean up list is Baron Zemo and Crossbones (and probably one last Red Skull appearance somewhere down the line)

Iron Man's woman already beat a whack version of The Mandarin, so I'd say Stark is absolutely done as far as solo adventures go

Thor still has to take on Enchantress and Surtur and close the series with Loki

And I'm sorry, but I don't really care about prequel comics or Agents of Shield since no one has said anything good about that show whatsoever. Doesn't it consist of a bunch of made-up characters like Coulson? What's the point?

No, what you're doing is definitely nitpicking.
Just because something is introduced doesn't mean it needs to be tied up immediately. Heck even if some things aren't ever touched on again, it isn't that big of a deal.
As for your comment on agents of SHIELD, it actually got a lot better as the season went on. I'm not a huge fan of the music, and the acting can be a little bit questionable at time, but other than that it's a pretty well written show. The last few episodes dealing with the fallout of Cap 2 are particularly good.

 

[Marvelocity]

I don't really think 10 years is considered tying something up immediately (assuming Hulk 2 is on the backburner until 2018 or so), but that's just me. They introduced Doc Samson in The Incredible Hulk too. I mean, what is the point of doing any of that if they're not going to follow through?

I don't watch Agents of Shield because, from what I understand, it's just a bunch of characters who aren't in the comics like Coulson. Occasionally, it sounds like they name drop real characters or have them appear for an episode or two. That doesn't interest me at all. There are plenty of characters in the comics they could have chosen to make that show about. If I wanted to watch some original superhero types with no comic ties, I'd watch that X-Men rip-off Heroes or whatever.