Pick a team of Avengers to beat the JLA.

Ultra-Herald9 said:
But you are confusing different era's. Supes doesn't really struggle with anything less than a mountain these days while late 80's and early 90's Supes would have trouble with planes and pass out if anywhere near light speed. It could be explained as his body adapting and using Solar energy better than he used to making him stronger. At least there is some reaosning rather than he's just a popular character......like Marvel tends to do. Superman might not have pulled the moon, but I do recall a JLA comic by either Waid or Kelly where Supes, Wonder Woman and GL pulled the moon into or out of orbit. That, to me, is just insane. It's hard for me to see that and then in another comic see him have trouble supporting a bridge or something. Inconsistancy.

As for the Flash he is a bit more easy to explain. Since his powers come from extra dimension which is the Source of nearly all super speed that gives its avatars the ability to easily overide physics with its own set of laws. I remeber when the Flash couldn't touch Mach 2 (thats the Flash I knew and grew up with) but even then I knew he NEEDED to be faster! Still, it doesn't make any sense, from a dramatic point of view, that he be as ultra-fast as he is. How can I enjoy a Flash comic when I know he's so damn fast that he won't have much trouble. Sorry, but I like underdogs. I like seeing a hero struggle and none of the DC characters, going on past stories, should struggle much. Their villains aren't that powerful (overall) and they have been built up to be massively powerful. Why should I care?

The thing is DC tries to overcompensate Plvls to thanks to the ridiculousness of their silver age characters powers. Marvel has never massively underpowered any of there heroes except fo mutants who are infamous for their powers sliding back and forth. I don't fault Marvel for powering up their characters alittle, only because their villains tend to be ultra-powerful.

Just sayin'.
 
Thor, Sentry, Moondragon, Quasar, Hercules, Ironman, Hulk, Photon (Monica Rambeau), Captain Marvel (genis) and Sersi.
 
Vanguard07 said:
Thor, Sentry, Moondragon, Quasar, Hercules, Ironman, Hulk, Photon (Monica Rambeau), Captain Marvel (genis) and Sersi.

Ouch....now thats a brutal team.
 
Aint it supposed to be a lineup of 7? What have you got there like 10 my friend? Now comes the hard part... nip back 3. :ninja:
 
Ultra-Herald9 said:
actually I tend to believe that DC keeps a better lid on the power levels than Marvel. You can't even name a character in Marvel who hasn't been nigh-omnpotent at one time in Marvel. Its one of the reasons why I left reading Marvel......there characters actually have practically no weaknesess. They all keep getting powered up for practically no reasons past there WRITTEN limits.
Wow! No offense but that is crazy talk! DC characters constantly get power boosts! The Flash is one with the speedforce, Rayner is Ion, Wonder Woman, Superman, Captain Marvel, Jonn Jonz have basically always been demi-gods! Batman is the god due to fans giving him godlike prep powers to maintain structure in the universe, Aquaman has changed powers numerous times.....the list goes on! Marvel heroes occassional have upgrades but they always go back to normal. King Thor will probably go back to normal Thor but we won't know til he really returns. Spidey's new powers after the Other haven't been heard from since that book. IronMan's extremist is the only upgrade that will probably stick. Its a wonder that the DC universe's Earth is still in one piece with so many powerful beings in one place! As much as I'm a Marvel zombie I don't see them beating the JLA becuase like someone stated before, all of DC's heavy hitters are on one team. If you seen Thor, Silver Surfer, Hulk, Sentry, Ironman, Dr.Strange, SW, being led by Cap, who do you see beating them or even competing with them..........besides Doom? :p
 
Black Panther
Sentry
Vision
Quasar
Photon
Namor
Scarlet Witch

And down go Morrison's "Big Seven".
 
Man. You people are so desperate for The Avengers to be able to beat JLA. News flash. Don't matter what incarnation of the Avengers you can come up with. Some of JLA members have near godlike power levels. I doubt that they would take this fight seriously. Can you say ass whipping?
 
JLA aren't that powerfull really seeing as how Superman is the most powerful on the team and The Sentry can easily take him out.
 
Doombringer said:
Aint it supposed to be a lineup of 7? What have you got there like 10 my friend? Now comes the hard part... nip back 3. :ninja:

Fine, Take away, Hercules (dammit) Monica Rambeau and I guess Iron Man.

that leaves
Thor, Quasar, Sersi, Moondragon, Captain Marvel (Genis) Sentry and Hulk.

I say let either Thor or Captain Marvel lead them... Or Sentry if he's feelin up to it.

Seeing as how these are just about THE seven most powerful members of the Avengers i'd say they have pretty much the best shot of taking the league down.
 
You guys don't give much credit to Iron Man.

Iron Man is one of the smartest members of the Avengers and the single person who have carried the Avengers from its beginning until now. He should be a match-up against a scheming, cunning Batman.
 
explode7 said:
JLA aren't that powerfull really seeing as how Superman is the most powerful on the team and The Sentry can easily take him out.
Considering that Emma Frost can take down Sentry, Martian Manhunter would make him his *****. Besides, when was the last time he did anything useful?
 
The_Mystery said:
Just sayin'.

go find the last couple of years worth of Flash tpb....they are a billion times better than anything Marvel has put out
 
roach said:
go find the last couple of years worth of Flash tpb....they are a billion times better than anything Marvel has put out

Ah hell, are you really trying to get 10 pages of Marvel vs DC nonsense? That's subjective to the extreme.
 
roach said:
go find the last couple of years worth of Flash tpb....they are a billion times better than anything Marvel has put out

Seriously. SERIOUSLY! You're really saying that? You're tellin' me that your precious Flash tpbs are better than Astonishing X-Men or Brubaker/Epting Cap or Brubaker/Lark Daredevil or Ultimates 1 & 2 or She-Hulk or Young Avengers or Runaways, etc... I could go on and on. I love the Waid & Johns runs of the Flash, but really. Lets not say things we can't take back.
 
The_Mystery said:
Seriously. SERIOUSLY! You're really saying that? You're tellin' me that your precious Flash tpbs are better than Astonishing X-Men or Brubaker/Epting Cap or Brubaker/Lark Daredevil or Ultimates 1 & 2 or She-Hulk or Young Avengers or Runaways, etc... I could go on and on. I love the Waid & Johns runs of the Flash, but really. Lets not say things we can't take back.


uh yeah
 
explode7 said:
JLA aren't that powerfull really seeing as how Superman is the most powerful on the team and The Sentry can easily take him out.

Just because he is the most popular does not mean he is the most powerful.

Captain Marvel is as powerful as Superman only he doesn't have the weakness to magic.
Martian Manhunter is only slightly less powerful than Supes, and now doesn't have his fear of fire any longer.
Wonder Woman is only slightly less powerful than Supes.
Flash while not being as powerful, can run at near light speed so it makes up for alot.
Ion is as powerful if not more powerful than Supes.

You see it is really an unfair fight, because of how ridiculously powerful DC has made their characters. Plus OYL Supes is now near as powerful as Earth 2 Superman was.
 
Sentry
Thor
Ares
Hercules
Quasar
Moondragon
Sersi
Wonderman
Binary
Gilgamesh
Vision
Iron Man
Captain America
Hank Pym
Scarlet Witch
Hulk

That's a hell of alot of power
they could do it
 
If you have every Avenger fight the main seven that is alot of power.

But you take the main seven and pit them against a team consisting seven of the Avengers, the JLA take it by a landslide.
 
You know what the real trick is? PIcking a team of Avengers to take down the Justice Legion A (JLA One Million).

Superman One Million: Able to leap between planets with a single bound. Faster than a speeding tachyon. 5th Dimension Imp powers. Stopped a sun from going nova with his psychic powers while fighting against a black hole. While old, dying and weak from being in the 20th century, punched a hole in time and space to the 853rd century. Protects all of Earth.

Hourman One Million: Successor to Metron, New God of Time and Space. Posessor of the Philospher's Stone, granting him control over the universe.

Batman One Million: protects the world city of Pluto. Built Robin, the Toy Wonder out of spare parts he had laying around. Technology on his suit enables him to steal souls and send them through time and space.

The Flash One Million: Can travel throughout the timestream with no difficulty. Faster than Wally West.

The Martian Manhunter: J'onn J'onnz became the planet Mars and serves as its protector.

Aquaman One Million: God of the seas and aquatic life. Protector of Neptune.

Wonder Woman One Million: Living Marble granted life by the gods of Greece, with powers and abilities equal to any of theirs.
 
How about:
Cap
Thor
Sentry
Photon
Vision
Scarlet Witch
Quasar

That's more than enough power to handle DC's "Big Seven".
 
LibrarianThorne said:
You know what the real trick is? PIcking a team of Avengers to take down the Justice Legion A (JLA One Million).

Superman One Million: Able to leap between planets with a single bound. Faster than a speeding tachyon. 5th Dimension Imp powers. Stopped a sun from going nova with his psychic powers while fighting against a black hole. While old, dying and weak from being in the 20th century, punched a hole in time and space to the 853rd century. Protects all of Earth.

Hourman One Million: Successor to Metron, New God of Time and Space. Posessor of the Philospher's Stone, granting him control over the universe.

Batman One Million: protects the world city of Pluto. Built Robin, the Toy Wonder out of spare parts he had laying around. Technology on his suit enables him to steal souls and send them through time and space.

The Flash One Million: Can travel throughout the timestream with no difficulty. Faster than Wally West.

The Martian Manhunter: J'onn J'onnz became the planet Mars and serves as its protector.

Aquaman One Million: God of the seas and aquatic life. Protector of Neptune.

Wonder Woman One Million: Living Marble granted life by the gods of Greece, with powers and abilities equal to any of theirs.

I don't know how powerful they are if like more than half that team was taken down by Steel, Big Barda, Plastic Man, Zauriel and Orion. Check the One million issue of JLA.
 
Peoples incessant need for Marvel's characters to come out on top has made them ignore logic.:o
 

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