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Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales

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He said any man, not any White Walker. :o
This is some LotR style BS interpretation of the rules.

I genuinely, when I saw that gif, I almost had a heart attack for a moment before I actually focused on it and saw that it wasn't a Swedish gentleman in his late 80s getting Depp into gear :funny:
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But what if it had been the man who lives in a tree?
 
That font size.
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I copied it from another website. :grin:
 
This is some LotR style BS interpretation of the rules.

If a hobbit and a woman can kill a nazgul just because they aren't men, then a White Walker should be able to kill Max Von Sydow. It does make sense that something supernatural would be capable of killing Max. Like how that demon killed him in The Exorcist or when that emo killed him at the start of Star Wars episode seven.
 
Disney Should Tell 'Pirates' Hackers To Go Walk The Plank

Deadline reports that high-tech hackers have stolen a copy of Walt Disney's upcoming Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales two weeks before its May 26th opening day. The group threatens, so says The Hollywood Reporter, to release the Johnny Depp sequel in pieces, starting with the five-minute prologue and then in additional 20-minute chunks.

Disney CEO Bob Iger is currently refusing to pay a ransom, which means he is ignoring the advice of both the FBI's hacker units and Delroy Lindo. Disney is right to call their bluff. While the film being available online prior to release wouldn't help the box office, recent history shows that it wouldn't do that much damage, either.

Now, for the record, online piracy is usually disastrous for a film. It can have horrific consequences for countless smaller and art-house offerings that end up on torrent sites the minute they are released via video-on-demand platforms. And even with the major studios, online piracy still hurts a movie like Midnight Special a heck of a lot more than Batman v Superman, which in turn discourages studios from distributing movies of that nature. At the end of the day, it's still the online equivalent of shoplifting.

Removing morality from the equation for a moment, I would argue that the potential online leakage of Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest will have minimal effect on the film's global box office take.

We've seen this play out a few times over the last decade, and pretty much every major case has had little to no effect on the eventual box office earnings. The online release of a DVD-quality copy of Liam Neeson's Taken, the R-rated version no less, was available online months before the film's theatrical release in early 2009. Taken and Clint Eastwood's Gran Torino, which also got leaked during what is now a regular part of the awards season (critics groups and awards groups get DVD screeners of award-friendly movies and those films tend to end up online), also did boffo box office that year, earning $145 million and $148m respectively in North America alone.

And in April 2009, a DVD-quality workprint of X-Men Origins: Wolverine somehow popped up online a month before its release. We all speculated as to the financial effect, but in the end, the terribly reviewed film still opened with $85 million and ended up with $373m worldwide, with a vibrant post-theatrical lifespan. Since then, the most high-profile leak of a major movie came in August 2014, when The Expendables 3 was released in a DVD-quality copy three weeks prior to launch. That film was indeed a box office failure, earning just $39 million domestic and $214m worldwide against a $100m budget.

As tempting as it is to blame piracy, and without entirely discounting the illegal availability of said film, the real culprit was franchise fatigue in that scenario and the choice to go with a PG-13 rating for what was supposed to be a 1980s action throwback. Heck, the film made $72 million in China, where piracy is considered an even larger problem. If the movie were better or R-rated, or if the first two not-great Expendables films had been better, I'd argue that Lionsgate and Millennium's The Expendables 3 would have earned a total closer to the first two films with or without its premature availability.

So where does that leave Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales?

First, let's acknowledge the slightly amusing irony of a Pirates of the Caribbean movie being victimized by online piracy. And let us also acknowledge the notion of a bunch of online evildoers trying to blackmail Disney, of all studios. I too am imagining a Godfather-like montage of the responsible parties being bumped off in spectacular fashion concurrently with the ribbon-cutting ceremony for the Guardians of the Galaxy Disneyland ride.

And let us also note that of all of Walt Disney's 2017 movies, Pirates of the Caribbean: Salazar's Revenge (as it's called in certain territories) is arguably the least "important" release outside of Born in China. Yes, it's a sequel to a franchise that has earned $3.73 billion worldwide. But it's clearly on its last legs, it has already screened for the press (hence no surprises about the film's quality) and it's being advertised as the final chapter. Compared with the likes of Beauty and the Beast and Star Wars: The Last Jedi, it's about as important to Disney's annual bottom line as Alice Through the Looking Glass was last year.

The only long-term negative effect of the film underperforming (it was last tracking at a $90 million Fri-Mon domestic debut) would be serious discussions about the wisdom of opening the next two Star Wars movies over Memorial Day weekend. But assuming the hackers make good on their threat, and the files they claim are Pirates of the Caribbean 5 aren't merely the R-rated director's cut of Tinker Bell: The Pirate Fairy (would watch) or some long-ass episode of Jake and the Neverland Pirates (Yo ho, oh no!), how much damage would this really do to the movie?

The answer, I'd argue, is not much.

First of all, their threat to release the movie in twenty-minute increments is beyond stupid, since that means would-be viewers will have to download separate files and watch the film like a 1940's serial (or, perhaps more appropriately, like a Netflix binge). Second, the folks who are going to see Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales aren't exactly the sort of moviegoers who would forsake a theatrical viewing and instead grab a family of four over to the laptop or the desktop computer to watch the movie in 20-minute increments. Pirates of the Caribbean 5 is going to play to casual moviegoers around the world who like the franchise and wouldn't mind seeing another one as a fun way to kill an afternoon or an evening.

The folks who would watch a pirated copy of Pirates of the Caribbean 5, especially one doled out in installments, probably weren't going to see it in a theater anyway. That doesn't make it right or ideal, but there really hasn't been a case thus far of a major movie that otherwise would have been a hit suffering from online availability. Remember that guy who got fined $1.1 million by Fox for pirating The Revenant? Said Leonardo DiCaprio movie made $183m domestic and $532m worldwide, one of the biggest R-rated grossers ever and Dicaprio's third-biggest global hit behind Inception and Titanic. While millions of folks allegedly live-streamed Fate of the Furious on opening weekend, said film still snagged a record-breaking $532m global debut for Universal/Comcast Corp.

Now, for the record, lest you think I'm brushing over the very idea of piracy as no big deal, I will again repeat that it is often fatal for smaller films that depend on every single ticket sale or VOD rental to justify the investment, and that goes for smaller distributors and the major studios. But the big movies that were going to do well prior to piracy-related threats still tend to do well anyway. Nonetheless, if you're someone who wants Hollywood to make fewer IP-driven franchises, you should be annoyed as well. The very fact that a film like Pirates of the Caribbean 5 can survive online piracy is just part of what encourages studios to make more "safe" offerings of this nature.

Even with an alleged budget of $235 million, I'd wager that Disney can take whatever lost money that might arise from a two-week early online release of Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales. Precedent is made to be broken, but recent history suggests that the Mouse House can and should tell these cyber criminals to walk the plank.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottm...-pirates-of-the-caribbean-johnny-depp-hackers
 
Why would you give in to their demands? I'm not going to watch some crappy pirated version online. Everything is getting pirated these days. Even if they release portions of the film online, it's hardly going to ruin the movie's box office more than bad reviews or word of mouth would.
 
Why would you give in to their demands? I'm not going to watch some crappy pirated version online. Everything is getting pirated these days. Even if they release portions of the film online, it's hardly going to ruin the movie's box office more than bad reviews or word of mouth would.
It probably won't effect the domestic take, but pirating can be such a big thing overseas.
 
History has proven that studios don't make that much money off of a film's overseas take.
 
History has proven that studios don't make that much money off of a film's overseas take.
While this is true, the only reason we have a 5th Pirates movie is the overseas take from the last one.
 
Let's say these **** bags leak the whole movie online, do you really believe that will tank the overseas take for this film DarthSkywalker?

Considering each one I think did more than the last overseas.

Depp's stardom has fallen big time in recent years, and he can't really open a movie anymore. That should be more worrisome.
 
Let's say these **** bags leak the whole movie online, do you really believe that will tank the overseas take for this film DarthSkywalker?

Considering each one I think did more than the last overseas.

Depp's stardom has fallen big time in recent years, and he can't really open a movie anymore. That should be more worrisome.
No, but it would effect it imo. Especially as the domestic number isn't looking all that hot and this movie cost 320m to make apparently.
 
Even if it happens, I doubt it would effect the outcome that much, and Disney would be foolish to give into any demands.
 
Disney has Marvel and Pirates 5 sorta got the green light in 2012-2013 around the same time when Lucas sold them Lucasfilm, making Disney the biggest dog in the yard in Hollywood.

They're the number one studio at the moment, so if they lose money on Pirates 5, it won't hurt them that much. In fact, I think ESPN hurts them more than Pirates 5 underperforming.
 
Yeah I doubt Disney was hurt that much by the losses on Through the Looking Glass and The BFG last year.
 
Well good thing there isn't video of her doing it, unlike Depp. :up:

If you want to stop talking about this, I'd suggest his fans stop talking about how sad it is for him to be in the position of being super rich and blowing it like a fool. So talk about the movie, stopping trying to make him seem a good person, when we have evidence to the contrary.

Video of abuse? You mean him screaming at the cabinets?

I am not a fan of his but I have some empathy. If the dude was a terrible person he would be rude to annoying fans and I heard nothing but how gracious he is.


Illegally smuggled dogs... :lmao:

Also, you should take note. Drugs and alcohol make people bad. Like Depp.

They can make some people do bad things but this is a truly ridiculous sentence there. Unless this comes from some religious convictions you have, in which case not my business pointing this out
 
I think both Heard and Depp have personal demons. Depp seems like a broken person (mentally and financially) and Heard seems opportunistic.

And yeah, to say that drugs and alcohol fundamentally make people bad... no.
 
I'm half ****faced right now and I didn't make a bold claim that everyone who enjoys drugs and piss is a bad person, so technically since I'm not committing any form of descrimination, while having smashed a few pints, means I'm a better person than the teatotaller
 
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Illegally smuggled dogs... :lmao:

Also, you should take note. Drugs and alcohol make people bad. Like Depp.

Yeah she took her pet to Australia and didn't quarantine it. Dogs and other pets have to be quarantined for an amount of time when they are brought to the country. She was fined $1000. Hawaii has a pet quarantine requirement as well. It's to keep rabies off the island.

http://hdoa.hawaii.gov/ai/aqs/
 
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Marvolo is also educated in bird law if anyone is having any bird problems... got me out of a real cluster**** involving a peacock, a blowup doll, and a bushel of mandarin oranges.
 
Video of abuse? You mean him screaming at the cabinets?

I am not a fan of his but I have some empathy. If the dude was a terrible person he would be rude to annoying fans and I heard nothing but how gracious he is.




They can make some people do bad things but this is a truly ridiculous sentence there. Unless this comes from some religious convictions you have, in which case not my business pointing this out
The obvious point of the post was to stop crying about Depp being a user to feel bad for him, while then using them to demonize Heard, because fanboy can't help himself. No, obviously those things don't make you a bad person. But that is also why you don't make the stupid comparison of Heard being on them and saying how they made her evil, and then defend the poor, helpless Depp for who has a history of doing the same thing. Accusations against him are false, the ones about her are true, and its true because she has a susbstance abuse track record. Just like Depp.

As to Depp and his fans. Wanting to be relevant does not make you some sort of good person. Guy has been trying to hold onto his relevance for a good while, and that is where the fandom comes in.

lol no matter what, you're going to believe he abused Winona.
No, I just believe in track record.

I'm half ****faced right now and I didn't make a bold claim that everyone who enjoys drugs and piss is a bad person, so technically since I'm not committing any form of descrimination, while having smashed a few pints, means I'm a better person than the teatotaller
You performed a good amount discrimination on alcohol apparently.

Yeah she took her pet to Australia and didn't quarantine it. Dogs and other pets have to be quarantined for an amount of time when they are brought to the country. She was fined $1000. Hawaii has a pet quarantine requirement as well. It's to keep rabies off the island.

http://hdoa.hawaii.gov/ai/aqs/
Marv, I know. I saw the hilarious video. Comparing that to abusing others, is a bit different.
 
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Who cried about him using drugs and alcohol?

Anyways..

Pirates star Kaya Scodelario: 'Johnny Depp inspired me to let go and get out of my mind'

Kaya Scodelario is about to hit the big screen with the fifth Pirates of the Caribbean movie: Dead Men Tell No Tales.

And the Skins actress has revealed she learnt so much from her co-star Johnny Depp, especially when it came to the special effects shots.

The 25-year-old – who plays astronomer Carina Smyth – told Wonderland: "We were just lying on a piece of green screen and we had to pretend to be falling.

"I didn't know what the f**k I was going to do, and I looked over to him and as soon as they said 'action' he was just completely committed, he didn't care if it made him look silly or weird or strange. That inspired me to let go and get out of my mind."

Alongside Depp and Scodelario, Orlando Bloom, Kevin McNally and Geoffrey Rush are returning to their roles as Will Turner, Gibbs and Barbossa, and Javier Bardem is joining the franchise's cast as villain Captain Armando Salazar.

Scodelario also explained more about her character, saying: "She definitely is the most modern female we've had in these movies. She wants the right to go to university, she enjoys astronomy, she's independent; she definitely isn't ready to just be a wife.

"Most roles I've had have been very serious, very emotional and all about breaking myself down — with this I got to enjoy playing off other actors and I learned about comedic timing."

http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/pi...nny-depp-inspired-me-pirates-of-the-caribbean
 
If you are going to use her drug history against her, why do you avoid his?

She doesn't just have a history of drug use, she has a history of abusive behavior that she tried to erase.

If you believe she's an angel because of the image she tries to present then fine.
 
Marvolo is also educated in bird law if anyone is having any bird problems... got me out of a real cluster**** involving a peacock, a blowup doll, and a bushel of mandarin oranges.

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