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I can see the difference but it is subtle. They did feminize her more but at least she still has her bow, making her a step up from the traditional princesses.
 
The slimming of the waist is the only thing bothering me. Was she considered fat before or something? I thought she was at a perfectly healthy weight before, how skinny do women have to be to be considered non fatties?
 
How is Mulan a princess? She isn't related to royalty and she didn't fall in love with a prince.
 
I hate that they tamed her hair. Speaking for the unruly-haired girls of the world, that flyaway hair was one of my favorite aspects of Merida's appearance. They also slimmed her down, and put her in a more sparkly version of the dress that she hated in the movie.

I'm not sure that anyone at Disney Consumet Products has actually seen this film.

I saw some of the new Merida merchandise in the Disney Store yesterday. She looks like Barbie now. :cmad:
 
How is Mulan a princess? She isn't related to royalty and she didn't fall in love with a prince.

She's a girl. All girls are princesses. Welcome to Disney merchandising. :whatever:
 
Then again, why aren't people mad about Mulan? She was dressed up as a boy 80% of the time, and yet at the Parks, she's represented strictly as a femy princess.

People have been mad about Mulan, and how Pocahantas now looks all princess'd up as well. It's been going on for a long time. This just seems to be the breaking point.

A lot of moms loved Brave because they have daughters who don't want to play with the princess toys, which is all Disney seems to want to market at them. Brenda Chapman based Merida on her own daughter. This was the first Pixar movie with a girl in the lead role, and that was a big deal.

Saying that her new look is because she was a tomboy and has since grown out of it implies that something was wrong with the way she was. But she was fine the way she was, there was no need to change her look.
 
Mulan looks like Bobby Lee in a wig...
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Geez, is it that hard to find a Mulan model who resembles her character from the movie? :whatever: The one they found looks like Mulan's aunt.
 
I don't see the changes as the much of a big deal. I just assumed it was to fit the art style they're going with. Other characters don't look exactly like their respective original film version. Have there really been any major complaints about them?

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Is it wrong that I'm getting slightly turned on lol? Disney definitely is going the more sexualized or alluring route with those.
 
Pocahontas actually kind of makes sense, since the English did consider her a princess of sorts in real life, and when she moved to England, she dressed accordingly.

Mulan? That's just lazy.
 
I have gone back and forth on this topic, and then I watched the Daily Show tonight, and I realized they took her bow away and wrote that ridiculous letter about her "Dressing up" for her ceremony. Did they not even watch the film?

"I want to shoot an arrow" might be the most adorable thing ever put on film. I now hate this.
 
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It's a fine line that they walk to glam up the characters for marketing. I don't have a problem with the practice. In some cases, they've gone beyond tweaking in order to modernize a look, particularly with Cinderella. No problem with that, either. I think they crossed the line with Merida. The problem was that the character was all about not being the type of girl they turned her into for the "coronation" artwork. If they really wanted to have done something other than the dark blue gown and carefree hair, they should have dressed her up in something resembling her outfit when the suitors are attempting to win her hand.

Like I said, it's a fine line. Disney's problem is they complicated it from the start by having the character be specifically an anti-princess of sorts and championing that.
 
I have gone back and forth on this topic, and then I watched the Daily Show tonight, and I realized they took her bow away and wrote that ridiculous letter about her "Dressing up" for her ceremony. Did they not even watch the film?

"I want to shoot an arrow" might be the most adorable thing ever put on film. I now hate this.
The picture I saw had her still wielding a bow. The one linked with the "real" Merida. Though that might have been only the one shot of her with it.
 
I hate that they tamed her hair. Speaking for the unruly-haired girls of the world, that flyaway hair was one of my favorite aspects of Merida's appearance. They also slimmed her down, and put her in a more sparkly version of the dress that she hated in the movie.

I'm not sure that anyone at Disney Consumet Products has actually seen this film.

I saw some of the new Merida merchandise in the Disney Store yesterday. She looks like Barbie now. :cmad:

They hardly tamed her hair, it was just drawn in a less than photoreal art style.
 
The picture I saw had her still wielding a bow. The one linked with the "real" Merida. Though that might have been only the one shot of her with it.

Nah there was another of the supposedly sexed up version with her weapons.
 
Pocahontas' father Powhatan was a chief so she was actually the Native American equivalent of royalty. No problem there for me. But Mulan simply isn't a princess by any stretch of the term.

I agree that Kida should be there, but I think Disney tends to ignore the less successful movies. Wasn't the girl from Black Cauldron also a princess?

Wow, Cinderella looks rather different! And why do they always make her gown light blue? It's gray in the movie.
 
I think the issue was that Merida wasn't supposed to be all that attractive. She's a cute chick but she looks like somewhat of an awkward teen almost. The rest of them on that list were all pretty much designed to be hot.
 
I agree that Kida should be there, but I think Disney tends to ignore the less successful movies. Wasn't the girl from Black Cauldron also a princess?

She called herself a princess, but she was a scullery maid.

As for Merida's look, it seems to be more in tune with the art direction for the other Disney princesses than Disney de-emphasizing her 'plain' look on purpose. The only complaint I have is that she should be in that archery outfit rather than the royal outfit she despised.

Then again, Merida was wearing that outfit at the end of the film...
 

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