The Amazing Spider-Man Please no glasses this time. Please no nerdy Clark Kent like characterization.

[david icke]

He's supposed to be a geek. He's supposed to have bad luck. He's not supposed to have no idea how to interact with everyone ever and seem to have some sort of development disorder.

Em, yeah, and that is what was shown in the Raimi films. His bad luck and social awkwardness stemmed from his dual identity problems, coming up with weak ass excuses for his absences and being awkward around MJ because she doesn't understand his absence and behaviour, and him not knowing how to fix it without telling her he's SM.
About the only thing I can think of that falls under the outright social awkwardness is the trying to recite poetry thing, which was just him taking on some advice and applying it badly.
All Raimi did was have the character retain some of the sensitivity he had from before the spider-bite, and show the resultant 'apparent' social awkwardness that stems from him having to hide his secret ID....the pizza job; the birthday party; not showing up at MJ's theatre show and the resultant awkward excuses and behaviour in the fall out from that.
and Pete being regarded as something of an oddball amongst his friends, due to him being absent when needed/expected, and coming up with weird excuses, is something straight from the books.
I think what you guys are doing is seeing something that is not there and having a good moan because you get embaressed too easily by a sensitive quietly spoken guy being the hero onscreen. If the Peter Parker of the books were to act out in front of you, you would also get a sensitive, quietly spoken type of guy.
Being confident and quietly mannered are not mutally exclusive qualities.

 

[terry78]

Raimi likes to play his characters to the hilt, that's all it is. He's done it since Evil Dead, and it's not a bad thing. It all depends on what your viewpoint is.

 

[DACMAN]

Sure. But I don't want to see Raimi's Peter, I want to see Marvel's.

 

[DACMAN]

Em, yeah, and that is what was shown in the Raimi films. His bad luck and social awkwardness stemmed from his dual identity problems, coming up with weak ass excuses for his absences and being awkward around MJ because she doesn't understand his absence and behaviour, and him not knowing how to fix it without telling her he's SM.
About the only thing I can think of that falls under the outright social awkwardness is the trying to recite poetry thing, which was just him taking on some advice and applying it badly.
All Raimi did was have the character retain some of the sensitivity he had from before the spider-bite, and show the resultant 'apparent' social awkwardness that stems from him having to hide his secret ID....the pizza job; the birthday party; not showing up at MJ's theatre show and the resultant awkward excuses and behaviour in the fall out from that.
and Pete being regarded as something of an oddball amongst his friends, due to him being absent when needed/expected, and coming up with weird excuses, is something straight from the books.
I think what you guys are doing is seeing something that is not there and having a good moan because you get embaressed too easily by a sensitive quietly spoken guy being the hero onscreen. If the Peter Parker of the books were to act out in front of you, you would also get a sensitive, quietly spoken type of guy.
Being confident and quietly mannered are not mutally exclusive qualities.

I think you missed the point of the comics. His friends used to think he was stuck up. They thought it was weird how he'd run off. The point was that he wasn't though. He wasn't the social ****** Raimi made him to be. Maybe in high school, before he was bitten. If you really think Peter was this socially challenged kid, I'd swear you haven't read Spider-Man past issue 10 of Amazing. The character grew out of that awkwardness quckily. Raimi refused to let Peter grow at all.

 

[david icke]

I think you missed the point of the comics. His friends used to think he was stuck up. They thought it was weird how he'd run off. The point was that he wasn't though. He wasn't the social ****** Raimi made him to be. Maybe in high school, before he was bitten. If you really think Peter was this socially challenged kid, I'd swear you haven't read Spider-Man past issue 10 of Amazing. The character grew out of that awkwardness quckily. Raimi refused to let Peter grow at all.

No, you kind of missed the point of my post....he does have moments of being awkward and weird in the books, and it all stems from the fact that he is covering up his secret ID.
Just about all of the awkward moments Pete has in the Raimi movies stems from this problem too.
Look at what happens in Spider-man 2 when he loses his powers, he can act like a normal person, show up at class and answer the questions....when two girls make flitatious smiles at him, he takes it in his stride and has a confident smile and demeanor....he shows up at MJ's show and basically puts his cards on the table afterwards....he is that confident guy, but that is overshadowed by the fact he is consatntly under stress, exhaustion and harrassement from his Spider-man gig.
That is what is shown in the films, his 'apparent' weirdness...not knowing it's his birthday...not showing up at Mj's play and the resultant awkward attempts to patch things up, but he can't because he cannot give the truthful excuse....screwing up the pizza job...being awkward with Doc Conners, again because he cannot give him a truthful excuse for his absence.
It all stems from the fact he is covering up his secret ID, not that he is a social ******, he just comes across like a social ******, and as I said, in the powerless section of teh movie, all this is stripped away, and we see the confidence shine, because he no longer has a reason to awkwardly lie after letting people down.
This always happened in the books, it's just that in the books there is more time you can spend with the character, so you get more scenes of him acting normal with his friends. But, sooner or later duty calls and he will slip into awkward oddball mode, as he makes his excuses etc.

 

[DACMAN]

But Raimi had him a goof ball 100% of the time. And in the comics, it only appeared that way. Raimi actually made him a goof.

 

[©KAW]

Sometimes, a dancing goof.

 

[El Payaso]

The problem is that Raimi used a mere caricature of a nerd.

 

[DACMAN]

I can agree with that. And he never showed Peter getting more confident once he becomes a freaken superhero!

Well, he did show him getting cocky and self absorbed in 3. But that's not the same. He became a jerk in 3.

 

[david icke]

There were moments of calm in the storm for Pete, where you saw him acting like a normal person..talking to Aunt May, trying to reason with Harry, talking to MJ in the garden(before he started acting weird with her because he missed the theatre date and could nto give a good excuse), talking to Norman Osborne, talking to JJJ....just about all of his other weird behaviour was attributed to his acting strange because he is trying to keep it together, and is struggling to balance his SM life with his normal one.

and we didn't get to see him confident after becoming a superhero?!... you just ignored my point about how it showed him ultra confident once he quit being Spider-man, ie his apparent social ineptitude is put down to him coming up with lies to cover his absences, letting people down, etc. Once that pressure is taken away we see the normal, adjusted guy.

You might want to see a Spider-man film where is like any other young guy off of any other teen/yound adult drama, but for me that would be a very dull Spider-man movie. Raimi knew where it was at in SM2, he showed a SM being pushed to his limits, and all the weird behaviour in his normal life that results from that, then showed the normal, healthy, adjusted guy he would be if he did not have the pressure of Spider-man in his life.

and it's nothing like the 'Clark Kent' nerdyness...CK put that on to disguise his identity....Peter Parker acts socially maladjusted because he is exhausted, harrassed and has to lie all the time because he is letting people down, big difference.

You guys can look at the movie and see what you want, and ignore my points to the contrary, but the fact is...that was Peter Parker/Spider-man from the books onscreen, maybe you need a couple more quips or whatever(and this critisicm is being blown out of proportion)...but the guy onscreen we got was the guy from the books, the guy who struggles with a normal life, because when someone is exhausted and leading a life that is pushing him to the limits, he is going to act weird sometimes.
But, we also got scenes where he was acting perfectly normal, calms in the storm, he wasn't '100%' goofy or whatever.