Polygamy / Homosexuality

[Majic Walrus]

The pension should apply per victim not per spouse.

 

[BestGirl]

But the purpose of pensions like that is to give the spouse something to live off of, right? What if a cop had 100 wives? Do each of his survivors only get $1000?

 

[Heretic]

Homosexual marriage does one thing...allows two people to get married. It does not complicate anything as far as taxes, rights, etc.

Polygamy does complicate and blur laws. First of all...lets just assume that we all are willing to overhaul all of the marriage laws to fit multiple spouses. Okay, well...if a man can have multiple wives, then a woman can have multiple husbands...so theoretically a mans 3 wives could all have three husbands. But wait...their husbands are also married to multiple people. What if two men are married to the same woman???? What if two different men are married to the same woman...and that woman is also married to a wife of one of her husbands...and what if her wife is the sister of one of her other husbands...it gets too complicated.

 

[Schlosser85]

Polygamy redefines marriage far more than homosexuality does. Homosexuality still involves a commitment between two people. It's still about TWO PEOPLE making a commitment to each other, one person committing themselves to one other person, not polygamists who can't make up their minds which wife they love the most.

 

[A&W]

If a gay couple wants to buy a house with a white picket fence, get a family dog, adopt children and get married than I say that couple has strong family values.

I am a reformist who believes we should try to guide society's development to help people grow up happy and healthy. We shouldn't run our society in a way that knowlingly creates victims of society.

Family values have been proven to help people in this manner.

I believe that legalized polygamy would have a very negative effect on family values and possibly even set us back when it comes to equality of the sexes. We already know that if it became popular and legal what were not going to see is women with five husbands. What we would get is mainly men with lots of wives or "trophies."

I doubt it is the best environment for a child and would probably lead to many marital problems related to jealousy. Three women with the same man, and your going to see jealousy because of the man picking favorites or because somebody gets left out or the kid doesn't like one of them as much.

Then there is also the problem of not enough mates to go around. If wealthy men are married to 5 women and you know a lot of wealthy men would do it, there wont be enough women to go around for everybody else leaving many men to become lonely depressed alcholics.

A lot of people will just jump into huge families for the tax benefits as well.

 

[A&W]

Reading through the thread a lot of people here made some really good points as to the legal complications of legalized polygamy marriage.

I forgot to mention the big "D" word. Divorce.

When this happens the children would be taken for a very tramatizing ride. I also believe the divorce rate would go up because so many people would get into a polygamy marriage without really knowing what they are getting into.

 

[A&W]

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't the majority of polygamy marriages in the world take place in the middle east? The middle east isn't exactly the land of equality of the sexes.

 

[squeekness]

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't the majority of polygamy marriages in the world take place in the middle east? The middle east isn't exactly the land of equality of the sexes.

Back in the olden days polygymy actually helped women to a degree, a widow would still have a place to go. Consider that in a healthy human society there are slightly more females than males, especially when, back in the old days, the guys used to fight more wars and all that. Things aren't like that now. I guess I could see polygymy amongst consenting adults, but then, why is that when we hear of most polygimist situations it's always a guy with all these young girls, usually around 14 years of age to garuntee virginity and all that? Perhaps it's best to do away with idea altogether because there is simply too much room for abuse and mismanagement.

 

[Erzengel]

I'm against polygamy purely for fiscal and psychological reasons. One person in your life is draining enough. 2?

 

[PemLam]

The pension should apply per victim not per spouse.

But the purpose of pensions like that is to give the spouse something to live off of, right? What if a cop had 100 wives? Do each of his survivors only get $1000?

Walrus is correct. Pensions and policies are issued to the holder. How he or she chooses to have it distributed upon death is up to them. The total amount remains the same, it's just divided up in smaller shares depending on how the policy holder wanted it distributed.

 

[squeekness]

I'm against polygamy purely for fiscal and psychological reasons. One person in your life is draining enough. 2?

Truely. One husband is enough for me. Besides, I would be jealous of a second wife, I have insecurity isues.

 

[Majic Walrus]

Reading through the thread a lot of people here made some really good points as to the legal complications of legalized polygamy marriage.

I forgot to mention the big "D" word. Divorce.

When this happens the children would be taken for a very tramatizing ride. I also believe the divorce rate would go up because so many people would get into a polygamy marriage without really knowing what they are getting into.

I don't think the divorce rate would increase or that people would get into something without thinking about it. People seriously considering a polygamist relationship are probably pretty damned open and aware.

Homosexual marriage does one thing...allows two people to get married. It does not complicate anything as far as taxes, rights, etc.

Polygamy does complicate and blur laws. First of all...lets just assume that we all are willing to overhaul all of the marriage laws to fit multiple spouses. Okay, well...if a man can have multiple wives, then a woman can have multiple husbands...so theoretically a mans 3 wives could all have three husbands. But wait...their husbands are also married to multiple people. What if two men are married to the same woman???? What if two different men are married to the same woman...and that woman is also married to a wife of one of her husbands...and what if her wife is the sister of one of her other husbands...it gets too complicated.

Polygamist marriages or unions can be limited to one marriage. For instance, you are only allowed to enter into one marriage. It can be with four people or one but you can only be married once.

Besides the poly amorous people in the modern western world are not just willy nilly getting into relationships. These are people that all live together like a family.

 

[Cunning Stunts]

The ONLY legitimate arguments I can see, legally, against polygamy are: 1.- The fact that if it were legal, a lot of people might get married to multiple partners, and not be able to support the numerous children they might produce, and 2.- That a lot more of us may wind up in incestuous relationships (whether that's known to us or not is purely up to the partners ). Even that second issue is shaky at best.

Other than the money issues, I really don't see much problem with it. I'm a one-woman man, personally (in the rare case I'm actually with someone ), and I'd only marry a woman who was in a relationship solely with me, but what other people choose to do in their bedrooms is really not my business.

 

[Majic Walrus]

The ONLY legitimate arguments I can see, legally, against polygamy are: 1.- The fact that if it were legal, a lot of people might get married to multiple partners, and not be able to support the numerous children they might produce, and 2.- That a lot more of us may wind up in incestuous relationships (whether that's known to us or not is purely up to the partners ). Even that second issue is shaky at best.

Other than the money issues, I really don't see much problem with it. I'm a one-woman man, personally (in the rare case I'm actually with someone ), and I'd only marry a woman who was in a relationship solely with me, but what other people choose to do in their bedrooms is really not my business.

Exactly.