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Polygamy-- let's spread the love.

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Since the Gay/Straight marriages are getting so much support, I thought I'd open up discussion for a subject that's close, but much less discussed-- polygamy.

First let me say that I am not at all trying to troll the Gay/Straight thread-- let's try to keep the subjects independent as much as possible. Let's just stick to the facts.

Polygamy discussed here would be any form of marriage that involves more than 2 people. A man with 2 wives, a woman with 2 husbands, or 3 or 4 or 12 people who are all married to each other-- why not?

Some facts about Polygamy:

-Multiple romantic/erotic relationships occur between full, consenting adults, without any repercussions or harm to those around them. They're not hurting anyone!

-Polygamy has been traditionally practiced across the world, and still is to this day in many countries, especially in Africa. This is closely tied to the fact that

-Polygamy actually makes biological sense from a reproductive standpoint. Stronger/smarter men (men with means to generate greater wealth/resources) take as many wives and have as many children on them as he can afford. Ie. fitter males have more children.

Katsu Rintaro, a great man of the Japanese modernization era and one of the leaders of the last era of the bakufu, preached that great young men of purpose should sire as many offspring as possible for the benefit of society. Katsu had countless live in maids who all bore him children in addition to his wife-- this was completely acceptable of course.

Even in the opposite relationship, allowing women to have multiple partners allows women to pursue their desire to acquire the seed of "greater" men while still enjoying the income and bearing a child or two of a husband who is a "lesser" man-- something that happens continuously, just that with polygamy would be out in the open instead of in the closet.

Heck, many scientists and researchers of many fields even believe humanity isn't meant to be monogamous.

-"I can't help it if I'm born gay or straight"-- Polygamy surmounts that completely! EVERY human on the planet is programmed to have interest in multiple partners-- there is no here or there; if you are born human, you are "oriented" to want multiple partners. We can't help it right??? Why not acknowledge it!

-They're not hurting anyone!

-Oh religion - lol, no one at Flood listens to it anyway

-There's no compelling reason why 2 people is such a great number. Who is to say that 2 people (gay, straight, whatever) can raise children better than 4, 8, or 12 people? Why should I grow up with only 1 or 2 male role models, when I can grow up with 9! If everyone's happy about the arrangement, what's the problem here!

-Polygamy will also help people in those nasty love triangle things.


Ok, it might be obvious by the tone of the thread that I don't actually think Polygamy is a great thing for society-- but I am not meaning to troll, and honestly want to discuss this subject in earnest. Sounds much more interesting than talking about gay relations we all generally agree on anyway.

Seriously-- can anyone think of any real, compelling reasons why multi-amorus relationships should not be recognized by the state?

In the case of 3 or more people who are commited to each other, responsible adults-- why should they not receive the same benefits of marriage? Why should they not have the chance to adopt?

Consider this now open for discussion. (If this is the wrong forum I apologize, please move it then.)


PS-- They're not hurting anyone!
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I believe this topic goes in the Political section of the Hype
 
I thought we already had a polygamy thread...
 
I'd be okay with polygamy if it were equal...in that women can have multiple husbands as well.

Just like if you're going to make abortion illegal, then at least make the men who put the biscuit in the oven just as responsible for the possible jail time or the raising of the child.
 
Well, theres a whole bunch of polyamoruous people in the blogosphere, so if it ever becomes legal to marry multiple people, there'll be a few takers.

Personally, I dont really see any problems with it. I mean, if youre able to be married to two or more people and make it work then youre awesome. The odds are stacked against you though.
 
I don't personally morally believe in polygamy or polyamorous/open relationships, but I also don't believe it is the government's place to legislate morality.

Also, my favorite legalistic argument in favor of same-sex marriage is that marriage licenses are issued by the government, it is at bottom line a legal contract between consenting adults, and adults should be able to enter into a legal contract with whoever they want to.

So it would be hypocritical for me to use that argument for gays, and then turn around and deny it to polygamists.

As long as it's consensual, everyone is legal age, etc....I don't really see a valid legal argument against it apart from it "ruining the sanctity of marriage", which brings religion into it and A) violates separation of church and state, and B) is invalidated by my point about marriage being at its core a legal contract from the government, and is only a religious ceremony if the participants choose to make it so.

Legally, it's not the church who marries you.
 
How about multiple gay partners all looking to adopt children?
 
I don't personally morally believe in polygamy or polyamorous/open relationships, but I also don't believe it is the government's place to legislate morality.

Also, my favorite legalistic argument in favor of same-sex marriage is that marriage licenses are issued by the government, it is at bottom line a legal contract between consenting adults, and adults should be able to enter into a legal contract with whoever they want to.

So it would be hypocritical for me to use that argument for gays, and then turn around and deny it to polygamists.

As long as it's consensual, everyone is legal age, etc....I don't really see a valid legal argument against it apart from it "ruining the sanctity of marriage", which brings religion into it and A) violates separation of church and state, and B) is invalidated by my point about marriage being at its core a legal contract from the government, and is only a religious ceremony if the participants choose to make it so.

Legally, it's not the church who marries you.

let's turn marriage into a circus!

its not hurting anyone....except people who view their marriages seriously.
 
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