Wesyeed said:
Back on topic.
One of the things that really surprised me from the VFX guy was that basically some scenes were left in the movie "because they looked cool" and others were taken out because the singer family gave it a thumbs down.
I like stuff that looks cool but yes I think part of my issue with the movie was that some stuff wasn't thought through during the editing beyond it looking cool.
After I saw returns the first time, it did seem like parts were just there for the sake of being there and looking cool, no other reason than that. And someone told me a long time ago that this is just bad filmmaking in referrence to some of the excess cgi stuff lucas likes to keep throwing into his star wars movies.
He said it doesn't help the story or anything like that, leave it out. I agree.
For example since it's just what I took from the film after seeing it and perhaps the vfx guy is talking about this when he says some stuff was put in just because it looked cool...
There were a lot cooler stuff they could have done. Except for the eye shot thing, we saw everything in there before in other movies, and done better. So they weren't that cool as they were almost like the overuse of bullet time in ever damn film mimicing the matrix.
Wesyeed said:
The childhood flashback. Imagine the film without it. It looks cool, yes... undeniable. But imagine the movie without it and I think you'd not miss it.
It felt so tacked on. Like "Hey. We spent all the money on that stuff so we have to have a few shots of it in the movie."
Wesyeed said:
Dog eat Dog. Nuff said. It wasn't funny when I thought that one of the dogs just ran away and we're meant to assume the cute dog ate the other one but of course it'd be silly... now it's even less funny since some say the dog really ate the other one. Ugh, just cut it out. What does this have to do with superman returning....
****ing hated this scene. It was pointless and went nowhere. What I also hated more was the pullback to see Lex is stuck on an island that is shaped like a pork chop. Why? It was so stupid. Why. They spent money on rendering and working out all the complexities of that one useless shot.
Wesyeed said:
In fact, just scrap the entire gertrude crap and have lex already be rich and doing his evil villain thing. I think here again is something we'd not miss, especially the little girl screaming at a wig. I'd say get rid of kitty but unfortunately since singer decided to copy stm, she has to play the teschmacher in those remake scenes. She sucks though so I would really just rather not have her and work things out another way.
I didn't mind that. They were going along the Superman 2 timeline where he did try to sink California but was released. But I thought it was too corny. Make it seedier. And have Kitty have been more like Mercy. I don't htink there is one person that would have complained if Kitty was like Mercy and along the lines of Xenia Onatop from Goldeneye. A bad ass chick who is in it for the money and has no heart, and that is why she loves Lex. He only cares about himself and that is why she is attracted to him. Can you imagine how much better the scene would have been if, when NK starts breaking up, Kitty bolts to the chopper with the crystals, after her own agenday, and Lex catches up with her, they struggle over the crystals, and then the crystals fall out of the case and, at that moment, the croudn gives way a bit and they have no time to grab them and they just both jump into the chopper. Even with the stupid SR storyline, in my opinion would have been much better.
Wesyeed said:
Superman spying. I'll be nice and say ok the spying at the office wasn't so bad, but it's still un-superman and un-clark. What would his mom think? He could have accidentally encountered lois and richard discussing superman instead of following them everywhere like that. A little spying isn't that bad, like I said but going to their house is pushing it. I'd cut the whole scene and wouldn't miss it. It's cliche anyway. I've seen the "no I don't love him" thing a billion times already honestly on those teen drama shows and stuff like that, even smallville might have had an episode where that happened, I don't know... It doesn't work here since jimmy says flat out that he thinks she still loves you know who. Why does anyone expect us to buy that she doesn't love supes when she's lois lane, and of course she does.
It would have been better if he had been flying overhead and had seen all of them out in the backyard having a barbacue dinner, and Richard and Lois playing with Jason having a good time, and Superman seeing them happy and Lois happy without him. Just hovering in the air above them. Not looking throught the walls. Just flying overhead to do something else and recognizing Lois's voiice beloe.
Wesyeed said:
The stupid thing with the "have you found a place to life yet." and the suit cases. Someone explain what this was about and maybe I'll take it off my list of things to cut.
This was someting from the George Reeves' show that no one remembers because not many people saw. If your going to make a sequel to Superman 2, which is what they did (I hate that vague history crap) make it on that timeline and nothing else. Also that damn Great Ceasar's Ghost thing. Yeah Perry said it in the 40's when people talked like that. Now it just seems stupid.
I agree there might have been a great story there, but Singer said he took the bridge scene out as there was a bridge scene in X3. Seems like he had money he just spent it on stupid stuff like an island that looks like a damn pork chop.
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