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[Hotwire]

Agreed, I think we've picked enough nits anyway.

 

[Advocate05]

Well Rendar hes starting to nitpick the spoiler. Okay thats going a bit to farking far. sorry. Its one thing to say okay Jazz should not be a Pontiac, but its another that hes complaining about the spoiler, when the Jazz toy had a LARGER on.

Plus, they are using the rights that Hasbro has retained. Porsche being owned by VW is one that was not allowed. Yeah you forget that huh guys?

Since VW didn't allow then to use a Beetle for Bumblebee, it would only mean that they would not allow a 911 for Jazz. Since the manufactureer of both cars is Volkswagen.

 

[Hotwire]

Plus, they are using the rights that Hasbro has retained. Porsche being owned by VW is one that was not allowed. Yeah you forget that huh guys?

Since VW didn't allow then to use a Beetle for Bumblebee, it would only mean that they would not allow a 911 for Jazz. Since the manufactureer of both cars is Volkswagen.

Yeah, I pointed that out to them a few pages back.

 

[CFlash]

Well Rendar hes starting to nitpick the spoiler. Okay thats going a bit to farking far. sorry. Its one thing to say okay Jazz should not be a Pontiac, but its another that hes complaining about the spoiler, when the Jazz toy had a LARGER on.

Well, on a race car (the original Jazz) it can make sense. On a little roadster (think Miata) it's just hilarious.

 

[xwolverine2]

so what else you do guys wanna ***** about?

 

[Shinobi Rendar]

why doesn't megan fox have a nude scene?

 

[Hunter Rider]

why doesn't megan fox have a nude scene?

The curse of PG-13

 

[x-fan]

pg-13 unfortunately

 

[Shinobi Rendar]

lol

 

[360sculptguy]

Ok, here’s the deal as best as I can understand it. What was said in the interview is that Jazz will be a grey solstice hardtop convertible. I'm 99% positive no such car is available to the public at this time. I'd like to see what is out there.

The pic someone else posted of the gold car was a rendering of a “weekend racer.” Here’s the rear of a different color same concept:

That’s a rendering, not a pic of a realized car, and it’s a concept well over a year old. I'm not real trusting of renderings. This rendering was first shown on the internet a month or so after Pontiac realized they had a hit on their hands with the ragtop (spring2005). The “weekend racer” model name has been long since dropped but much of the styling sounds like it might survive. I believe the equivalent performance package is now called the Sports Club Package.

These are the current incarnations of the hardtop solstice convertibles. They are convertibles. Just because they have a hard top and not a ragtop means nothing. It still comes off; you just have to store it on a rack in your garage.

This is a the pic I posted on the first page. That was a concept car shown at the Detroit auto show and Pontiac says it was not their doing so much as EDAG’s. EDAG is a custom design house unaffiliated with Pontiac. While an actual car, it is still essentially a rendering and I do not think that car will ever be mass produced for the public. Public response to this design was terrible and rightly so.

These two pics are likely but not certain to have the tops that will be available to consumers eventually. In fact my hope is that Jazz will look more like this, with all the race mods, but he will also have the trademark wing. A solstice enthusiast outside a Pontiac meeting at Indianapolis raceway first spotted this car in early spring of this year. It disappeared ten minutes later and everyone acted like it didn’t exist. That was the first time anyone in the public saw a hardtop solstice. It is now a promotional car used for publicity and is traveling around the country for different events.

Almost as soon as the solstice showed real promise Pontiac wanted to find a way to get it into the race circuits where it would be up against their market’s direct competitors (Mazda and Toyota roadsters). The SCCA, the Sports Car Club of America, is the race group they are talking about. To be accepted into the “Showroom Stock B” class they had to offer a stock hardtop convertible option to consumers in the coming year, so they started getting into making it happen.

The former “weekend racer” renderings will be close to what will eventually be available to the public. Some of the front effects on the grill seem to have possible changes as well as minor lines with the rear end. The big hideous wing, while looking spot on for Jazz, will be an option, not standard. At least for right now, the only way you can get the carbon fiber hardtop is if you and your car are SCCA licensed, although that is guaranteed to change by 2007. In fact Pontiac says that eventually you will be able to retrofit all Solstices with the hardtop. Right now, there is only one outlet for the tops, they’re carbon fiber, 15 lbs., and you need to be SCCA licensed.

The hardtop has began racing in SCCA events some time ago. I’ve heard conflicting reports. Some sites say it debuted in a New England race May of this year and some say August 5th was the first race. In order to meet requirements GM actually had to submit the stock part number for the hardtop so it does indeed exist. In races the car has had very promising initial showings, including a handful of first places and several fastest lap records. I believe there are four racers currently driving the new solstice.

There seems to be some reason why Pontiac is waiting on making announcements or statements about the hardtops that will be available to consumers. With the configuration we see on these racers the minimal trunk cannot even be opened. Some speculate this is the holdup while others say that Pontiac is still trying to figure a way to making a last ditch effort with an automatic hardtop that folds and stows at the push of a button.

So basically, no one can say exactly what jazz will look like until we see what jazz looks like. No one has said whether Jazz will even be the gxp or not, and there are a few minimal styling differences. His wing may be completely different than a stock wing, who knows? Its aaaaaaaall speculation until we see some studio shots.

I think the talk about the cars makes complete sense with transformers. Thats a big part of why I loved them as a kid, the cool cars. If anyone wants to see a solstice with big balls do a search for "hot rod solstice". Hot Rod magazine worked with Pontiac to cram a V8 in one of these things.

If anybody can find a "for sure" press release from Pontiac about the hardtop option for the public I'd love to hear about it.

-Doug-

 

[Shinobi Rendar]

I HOPE WE DON'T GET THE SPEED WAGON TOP


yes i'm ranting... thnx for that doug

 

[Hotwire]

-Doug-

Cool pics! I like the race car version. That could work well for Jazz.

 

[xwolverine2]

Ok, here’s the deal as best as I can understand it. What was said in the interview is that Jazz will be a grey solstice hardtop convertible. I'm 99% positive no such car is available to the public at this time. I'd like to see what is out there.

The pic someone else posted of the gold car was a rendering of a “weekend racer.” Here’s the rear of a different color same concept:



That’s a rendering, not a pic of a realized car, and it’s a concept well over a year old. I'm not real trusting of renderings. This rendering was first shown on the internet a month or so after Pontiac realized they had a hit on their hands with the ragtop (spring2005). The “weekend racer” model name has been long since dropped but much of the styling sounds like it might survive. I believe the equivalent performance package is now called the Sports Club Package.

These are the current incarnations of the hardtop solstice convertibles. They are convertibles. Just because they have a hard top and not a ragtop means nothing. It still comes off; you just have to store it on a rack in your garage.



This is a the pic I posted on the first page. That was a concept car shown at the Detroit auto show and Pontiac says it was not their doing so much as EDAG’s. EDAG is a custom design house unaffiliated with Pontiac. While an actual car, it is still essentially a rendering and I do not think that car will ever be mass produced for the public. Public response to this design was terrible and rightly so.

These two pics are likely but not certain to have the tops that will be available to consumers eventually. In fact my hope is that Jazz will look more like this, with all the race mods, but he will also have the trademark wing. A solstice enthusiast outside a Pontiac meeting at Indianapolis raceway first spotted this car in early spring of this year. It disappeared ten minutes later and everyone acted like it didn’t exist. That was the first time anyone in the public saw a hardtop solstice. It is now a promotional car used for publicity and is traveling around the country for different events.

Almost as soon as the solstice showed real promise Pontiac wanted to find a way to get it into the race circuits where it would be up against their market’s direct competitors (Mazda and Toyota roadsters). The SCCA, the Sports Car Club of America, is the race group they are talking about. To be accepted into the “Showroom Stock B” class they had to offer a stock hardtop convertible option to consumers in the coming year, so they started getting into making it happen.

The former “weekend racer” renderings will be close to what will eventually be available to the public. Some of the front effects on the grill seem to have possible changes as well as minor lines with the rear end. The big hideous wing, while looking spot on for Jazz, will be an option, not standard. At least for right now, the only way you can get the carbon fiber hardtop is if you and your car are SCCA licensed, although that is guaranteed to change by 2007. In fact Pontiac says that eventually you will be able to retrofit all Solstices with the hardtop. Right now, there is only one outlet for the tops, they’re carbon fiber, 15 lbs., and you need to be SCCA licensed.

The hardtop has began racing in SCCA events some time ago. I’ve heard conflicting reports. Some sites say it debuted in a New England race May of this year and some say August 5th was the first race. In order to meet requirements GM actually had to submit the stock part number for the hardtop so it does indeed exist. In races the car has had very promising initial showings, including a handful of first places and several fastest lap records. I believe there are four racers currently driving the new solstice.

There seems to be some reason why Pontiac is waiting on making announcements or statements about the hardtops that will be available to consumers. With the configuration we see on these racers the minimal trunk cannot even be opened. Some speculate this is the holdup while others say that Pontiac is still trying to figure a way to making a last ditch effort with an automatic hardtop that folds and stows at the push of a button.

So basically, no one can say exactly what jazz will look like until we see what jazz looks like. No one has said whether Jazz will even be the gxp or not, and there are a few minimal styling differences. His wing may be completely different than a stock wing, who knows? Its aaaaaaaall speculation until we see some studio shots.

I think the talk about the cars makes complete sense with transformers. Thats a big part of why I loved them as a kid, the cool cars. If anyone wants to see a solstice with big balls do a search for "hot rod solstice". Hot Rod magazine worked with Pontiac to cram a V8 in one of these things.

If anybody can find a "for sure" press release from Pontiac about the hardtop option for the public I'd love to hear about it.

-Doug-

no way in hell im reading all that......

 

[Advocate05]

TLDR

so anyway I'm not whining. I'm just shocked at how XW2 could say Welker is not Megatron ... though he ... IS MEGATRON.

 

[360sculptguy]

Yeah, no one listens to me in real life either. Lol I come to message boards to torment others with my long windedness. And yes, I made that word up.

 

[Hotwire]

TLDR

so anyway I'm not whining. I'm just shocked at how XW2 could say Welker is not Megatron ... though he ... IS MEGATRON.

Maybe he just doesn't like the voice. Kind of like Chris Tucker, just has an irritating voice. He might not have liked the voice from the start. Well, there's my $.02.

 

[Shinobi Rendar]

lol. I read it... well skimed and looked at te pics.

don't worry i got the geist of it.

 

[Advocate05]

Not that I didnt listen. You posted a long ass explaination of the time space continum and related it to the TF universe. I read the first two paragraphs and then gave up.

 

[xwolverine2]

Yeah, no one listens to me in real life either. Lol I come to message boards to torment others with my long windedness. And yes, I made that word up.

^
i almost cried

I'm just shocked at how XW2 could say Welker is not Megatron

 

[Hotwire]

You gotta find a happy medium. Posts too short, you're a spammer. Posts too long, no on reads them. Happy medium.