Pyramid Of Guitarists

hippy fascist said:
actually his technique has probably suffered quite a bit since
I'd say it's improved. His ability to play 0 notes per second is music to my ears.
 
Fried Gold said:
I'd say it's improved. His ability to play 0 notes per second is music to my ears.

hendrix is generally the favourite guitarist of people who know nothing about playing the guitar, you want real guitarist check out

adam jones
jimmy page
j mascis
tony iomi
 
hippy fascist said:
adam jones

jimmy page

j mascis

tony iomi
See, Paul Simon is my favourite guitarist. Rarely spectacular, but always perfect.
 
Fried Gold said:
See, Paul Simon is my favourite guitarist. Rarely spectacular, but always perfect.

this is what I've been saying for years, any wanker can use 40 chords and write a song but to write something memorable with 3 takes talent

this is why I hate muse so much :cmad:
 
Hendrix killed all along the watchtower??? What? I like hendrix's version, although Richie havens does a really good version, and so do the dilan project. Bob dilan was a good song writer, but a bad singer.

Hendrix was great because he could play all the things that other guitarists mentioned here could, but he decided to play stuff that none of them could. Can anyone make a guitar scream and practically talk? As much I love Page, Hendrix was the superior guitarist, the most superior for technique. He was a guitar playing, LSD enfused divinity.
 
Cyrusbales said:
Hendrix killed all along the watchtower??? What? I like hendrix's version, although Richie havens does a really good version, and so do the dilan project. Bob dilan was a good song writer, but a bad singer.

Hendrix was great because he could play all the things that other guitarists mentioned here could, but he decided to play stuff that none of them could. Can anyone make a guitar scream and practically talk? As much I love Page, Hendrix was the superior guitarist, the most superior for technique. He was a guitar playing, LSD enfused divinity.
No, Hendrix was a show boat. More focused on HOW he could play than WHAT he could play. I can play a guitar with my teeth!!!! Or my toes!!!! I personally can play just about any Hendrix song, do I do it behind my back or with obscure parts of my anatomy? No. Why? Because thats not what guitar playing is supposed to be about. Its about the music, and thats why great songwriters/guitarists are always going to be better than great showman guitarists. I personally agree that Hendrix is overrated, and that he's the favorite of people who either haven't done enough listening to great guitarists, or whom have never tried to play guitar. I'll take EVH's solos over Hendrix's any day of the week, or John Petrucci's. How about Allen Collins, Ed King, Gary Rossington? How bout Hughie Thomasson? Ron Wood and Keith Richards? George Harrison?
 
Green Lantern said:
I'll take EVH's solos over Hendrix's any day of the week, or John Petrucci's. How about Allen Collins, Ed King, Gary Rossington? How bout Hughie Thomasson? Ron Wood and Keith Richards? George Harrison?

How can you not include J mascis in that list? The man's the reason I started playing! :(
 
Green Lantern said:
No, Hendrix was a show boat. More focused on HOW he could play than WHAT he could play. I can play a guitar with my teeth!!!! Or my toes!!!! I personally can play just about any Hendrix song, do I do it behind my back or with obscure parts of my anatomy? No. Why? Because thats not what guitar playing is supposed to be about. Its about the music, and thats why great songwriters/guitarists are always going to be better than great showman guitarists. I personally agree that Hendrix is overrated, and that he's the favorite of people who either haven't done enough listening to great guitarists, or whom have never tried to play guitar. I'll take EVH's solos over Hendrix's any day of the week, or John Petrucci's. How about Allen Collins, Ed King, Gary Rossington? How bout Hughie Thomasson? Ron Wood and Keith Richards? George Harrison?

The thing that made Hendrix so amazing was that he was the FIRST to do any of the things that he did. His composition and songwriting left something to be desired, I agree. But, he was a complete pioneer who did things with his guitar that no one had ever heard done. Ever. And, nobody from that timeframe could even come close to recreating or mimicking what he was doing. In today's day and age, he's largely unimpressive, without a doubt.

jag
 
jaguarr said:
The thing that made Hendrix so amazing was that he was the FIRST to do any of the things that he did. His composition and songwriting left something to be desired, I agree. But, he was a complete pioneer who did things with his guitar that no one had ever heard done. Ever. And, nobody from that timeframe could even come close to recreating or mimicking what he was doing. In today's day and age, he's largely unimpressive, without a doubt.

jag
Oh, I'm not saying he wasn't influential. Thats undeniable. He was one of the most influential forces to ever hit rock music. But I get highly annoyed by the fact that everyone who thinks they know about music proclaim him to be the be all end all of great guitarists, when in fact he's not all that impressive. First does NOT equal best. Most influential does NOT equal the best. Nirvana is without a doubt the most influential band of the grunge era. Are they the best? Hell no. We even had that talk over at CS ;) AiC, Pearl Jam and Soundgarden are all a hell of a lot better than Nirvana if not as influential...

hippy fascist said:
How can you not include J mascis in that list? The man's the reason I started playing! :(
Because I listed the reason I started playing ;)
 
Green Lantern said:
Oh, I'm not saying he wasn't influential. Thats undeniable. He was one of the most influential forces to ever hit rock music. But I get highly annoyed by the fact that everyone who thinks they know about music proclaim him to be the be all end all of great guitarists, when in fact he's not all that impressive. First does NOT equal best. Most influential does NOT equal the best. Nirvana is without a doubt the most influential band of the grunge era. Are they the best? Hell no. We even had that talk over at CS ;) AiC, Pearl Jam and Soundgarden are all a hell of a lot better than Nirvana if not as influential...

Oh, I agree. He's by far not the "best" (a highly subjective thing, anyway). But, I have to respect his innovation and influence. Most of the great players that people reference were either directly influenced by him (many picked up the guitar in the first place because of Hendrix) or were enabled by his inventiveness and newer techniques to explore their own musical genius and continue the evolution of the guitar as an insturment. I think that's why so many people proclaim him to be the best, because without him much of what we love today would have been drastically different if not non-existent. That's all I'm saying.

jag
 
You can play any hendrix stuff? What about his freestyle from woodstock? I've not heard anyone come close to making those sounds, not even spacey psychadelia that try to do that stuff, like van der graff generater and hawkwind. He could do things that no one else could, simple as, he's not my fav, but i think he is easily the most technically superior guitarist of all time.
 
Oh I agree, he is highly important to music history, and for that I am grateful. It just saddens me that noone EVER thinks to mention Collins, noone ever mentions Thomasson... Noone ever mentions King. But EVERYONE will throw Hendrix into the #1 spot even if they don't know thing one about playing.
 
Cyrusbales said:
You can play any hendrix stuff? What about his freestyle from woodstock? I've not heard anyone come close to making those sounds, not even spacey psychadelia that try to do that stuff, like van der graff generater and hawkwind. He could do things that no one else could, simple as, he's not my fav, but i think he is easily the most technically superior guitarist of all time.

Adam Jones from Tool, he does far more interesting stuff with his guitar

(cue crap sexual inuendo...but trust me this guy really is better than hendrix at getting unique sounds out of a guitar)
 
hippy fascist said:
Adam Jones from Tool, he does far more interesting stuff with his guitar

interesting is subjective, actual ability to make something make a noise it shouldn't make that no-one else can do, that is superior.
 
Cyrusbales said:
You can play any hendrix stuff? What about his freestyle from woodstock? I've not heard anyone come close to making those sounds, not even spacey psychadelia that try to do that stuff, like van der graff generater and hawkwind. He could do things that no one else could, simple as, he's not my fav, but i think he is easily the most technically superior guitarist of all time.
Why, because he messed around to get sounds that noone else had? Thats not technicallity. Technicallity is REPEATABLE. Even Hendrix himself would not be able to duplicate what he did at Woodstock. Thats showmanship, NOT technique. Eddie Van Halen has done things to get sounds that noone else had/has too. Power drill over the pickups anyone? Any of his studio recordings (not live jams, because as I already said, NOONE can even duplicate THEIR own improvisations) I can play. I can't say the same for Eddie. Seven years of playing guitar (and from what people tell me, not badly either) later, and I STILL can't nail Eruption note for note. Have I done some of my own wild 20+ minute improvisational solos in live shows? Of course. Could I do any of them again if I tried? Nope, it will always be different. Can I revisit parts of them that I liked when coming up with new material for new releases? Yup, and do frequently.
 
Green Lantern said:
Oh I agree, he is highly important to music history, and for that I am grateful. It just saddens me that noone EVER thinks to mention Collins, noone ever mentions Thomasson... Noone ever mentions King. But EVERYONE will throw Hendrix into the #1 spot even if they don't know thing one about playing.

Albert King was a goddamn blues guitar pioneer genius and SRV borrowed more than a few licks and cues from him.

Steve Vai can play anything and everything that Hendrix ever played and more, including things that I have a hard time Hendrix would have been able to play. Hendrix was also a very sloppy player from a technical perspective, but he made it work with his style.

Adam Jones is not that great of a guitarist. I like his stuff and he comes up with tasty riffs, but he's really not anything to write home about in a sea of Petrucci's, Vai's, Paul Gilbert's and Satriani's.

jag
 
Green Lantern said:
Why, because he messed around to get sounds that noone else had? Thats not technicallity. Technicallity is REPEATABLE. Even Hendrix himself would not be able to duplicate what he did at Woodstock. Thats showmanship, NOT technique. Eddie Van Halen has done things to get sounds that noone else had/has too. Power drill over the pickups anyone? Any of his studio recordings (not live jams, because as I already said, NOONE can even duplicate THEIR own improvisations) I can play. I can't say the same for Eddie. Seven years of playing guitar (and from what people tell me, not badly either) later, and I STILL can't nail Eruption note for note. Have I done some of my own wild 20+ minute improvisational solos in live shows? Of course. Could I do any of them again if I tried? Nope, it will always be different. Can I revisit parts of them that I liked when coming up with new material for new releases? Yup, and do frequently.

Well hendrix could come up with things more fantastical each time, and the reason he couldn't necessarily repeat a solo(except for the obvious fact it would be pointless) is that he was so mashed on drugs he could barely repeat a sentence, let alone an intense solo. He fed off his mind-bending drugs, and improvised solo's that were equally as mind-bending and awesome.
 
jaguarr said:
Albert King was a goddamn blues guitar pioneer genius and SRV borrowed more than a few licks and cues from him.

Steve Vai can play anything and everything that Hendrix ever played and more, including things that I have a hard time Hendrix would have been able to play. Hendrix was also a very sloppy player from a technical perspective, but he made it work with his style.

Adam Jones is not that great of a guitarist. I like his stuff and he comes up with tasty riffs, but he's really not anything to write home about in a sea of Petrucci's, Vai's, Paul Gilbert's and Satriani's.

jag
Heh, I was talking Ed King of Skynyrd fame ;) Wow... there are too many good King's that know guitar :o B.B., Albert, Ed, Kerry... :huh:
 
Check these interesting quotes

"Barney Kessel is definitely the best guitar player in this world, or any other world." - George Harrison

"I couldn't believe how good Jimi Hendrix was It was a really difficult thing for me to deal with, but I just had to surrender and say, 'This is fantastic.'" - Eric Clapton

"Barney Kessel is incredible. He's just amazing . . . . Nobody can play guitar like that," - John Lennon

"Jimi Hendrix was the most exciting guitarist I've ever heard." - Brian Jones - Guitar - Rolling Stones

"Musically, we're more talented than any Bob Dylan or Paul McCartney. Mick Jagger can't produce a sound. I'm the new Elvis." - Time Magazine quotes Milli Vanilli "singer" Rob Pilatus (2-27-1990)

"... you watch Jimi Hendrix literally reinvent the instrument. He was playing from somewhere else. He was really a kind of hybrid, and I can't even begin to imagine where he came from " - Steve Vai
 
Wilhelm-Scream said:
Check these interesting quotes

"Barney Kessel is definitely the best guitar player in this world, or any other world." - George Harrison

"I couldn't believe how good Jimi Hendrix was It was a really difficult thing for me to deal with, but I just had to surrender and say, 'This is fantastic.'" - Eric Clapton

"Barney Kessel is incredible. He's just amazing . . . . Nobody can play guitar like that," - John Lennon

"Jimi Hendrix was the most exciting guitarist I've ever heard." - Brian Jones - Guitar - Rolling Stones

"Musically, we're more talented than any Bob Dylan or Paul McCartney. Mick Jagger can't produce a sound. I'm the new Elvis." - Time Magazine quotes Milli Vanilli "singer" Rob Pilatus (2-27-1990)

"... you watch Jimi Hendrix literally reinvent the instrument. He was playing from somewhere else. He was really a kind of hybrid, and I can't even begin to imagine where he came from " - Steve Vai

See, these people i imagine, know what they are talking about a lot more than us lot do, give into hendrix *insert snakes eyes from the jungle book*
 
Cyrusbales said:
Hendrix was great because he could play all the things that other guitarists mentioned here could, but he decided to play stuff that none of them could.
Correction. Hendrix played all the stuff that other guitarists didn't want to play because it sounded wank.
 

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