Q.Where do supernaturally based heroes(pace Dr Strange) fit in with the SHRA?

[Fantasyartist]

It just occurred to me to ask how do those heroes/heroines whose powers are supernaturally based( pace Dr Strange, Brother Voodoo,Werewolf By Night, Blade et al) fit in to the SHRA.
And of course to wonder what the stance of those bad guys who are supernatural beings such as Dracula(and by extension all other vampires) is to the whole business(assuming of course that they don't consider it to be so much "mortal nonsense"). Trying to get The King Of Vampires to register his powers strikes me as almost as foolhardy as trying to get the Incredible Hulk to do so!


Terry

 

[Rasmon Redux]

yeah, there's a reason why Doc Strange is on the New Avengers, dude...

 

[Dread]

It varies depending on their scope and level of interaction. Dr. Strange has to protect not simply America, but the entire realm of Earth, which is why he is sort of free from having to officially register. However, if he helps SHRA violaters, he could be charged with "aiding known felons", which is technically a felony unto itself. Of course, the U.S. can nary afford to not have a Sorceror Supreme about, so they likely will cut Strange breaks. Dracula would never have to register, and would be considered a menace anyway. Like no one would expect Blackheart to register.

Although if he did, he'd become a Thunderbolt. Marvel's gov't has almost always been fairer with villians than heroes if they agreed to become grunts.

Lessor beings, like Blade and Ghost Rider, do have to register and are considered "mysically empowered mutates" or "magic users". Brother Voodoo registered, for instance.

I gleamed this much from the CW BATTLE DAMAGE REPORT.

As Iron Man would say, "I really hate magic."

 

[Brainiac 8]

As Iron Man would say, "I really hate magic."

Me too, I hate the magic users. Because in most cases, Magic is a copout plot device to explain something away that they don't want to be creative enough to make up a real explanation about.

"Hmm. how do we explain what we just did...oh wait I know...MAGIC!"

Stupid, arbitrary, magic.

 

[Rasmon Redux]

yeah, Dr. Strange falls on that short list of Marvel superheroes whose bad side you do not want to be on. Thor being another...

oh, and of course, the muthaf#@$!n Scarlet Witch....

Quesada: "Read Planet Hulk #1-4!"

 

[Dread]

Magic's not my favorite genre, but like anything else, if it and the characters are written well, I'm aboard.

Stark doesn't like magic because he can't scientifically explain it, nor control it, being all Mr. Tech Fascist now.

But, yes, to answer your question, supernaturally empowered heroes have to enroll just like mutants and mutates, just some exceptions may apply.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

I love magic. Having something I can't explain rocks.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Magic's not my favorite genre, but like anything else, if it and the characters are written well, I'm aboard.

Stark doesn't like magic because he can't scientifically explain it, nor control it, being all Mr. Tech Fascist now.

But, yes, to answer your question, supernaturally empowered heroes have to enroll just like mutants and mutates, just some exceptions may apply.

Pretty much in the area of Doctor Strange alone though, because of his responsibilities as SS.

 

[Alex Summers]

It varies depending on their scope and level of interaction. Dr. Strange has to protect not simply America, but the entire realm of Earth, which is why he is sort of free from having to officially register. However, if he helps SHRA violaters, he could be charged with "aiding known felons", which is technically a felony unto itself. Of course, the U.S. can nary afford to not have a Sorceror Supreme about, so they likely will cut Strange breaks. Dracula would never have to register, and would be considered a menace anyway. Like no one would expect Blackheart to register.

Although if he did, he'd become a Thunderbolt. Marvel's gov't has almost always been fairer with villians than heroes if they agreed to become grunts.

Lessor beings, like Blade and Ghost Rider, do have to register and are considered "mysically empowered mutates" or "magic users". Brother Voodoo registered, for instance.

I gleamed this much from the CW BATTLE DAMAGE REPORT.

As Iron Man would say, "I really hate magic."

It would actually be interesting if Dracula and Blackheart joined a team together. I can't think of any reason why they would be together, though.

 

[Dread]

It would actually be interesting if Dracula and Blackheart joined a team together. I can't think of any reason why they would be together, though.

Villians team up for the most random of reasons sometimes. The question is always how.

Technically, Blackheart is supposedly still trapped in the Hellfire Club's basement by Selene; maybe Dracula frees him and seeks his servitude for something (maybe to fight Dr. Strange or Blade or corrupting his more noble son Janus or something).

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Or to claim the Silver Surfer! Like you said, random.

 

[Venom.Symbiote]

Me too, I hate the magic users. Because in most cases, Magic is a copout plot device to explain something away that they don't want to be creative enough to make up a real explanation about.

"Hmm. how do we explain what we just did...oh wait I know...MAGIC!"

Stupid, arbitrary, magic.

This is exactly how I feel about DC's Speed Force and the "Force" in the Star Wars franchise. Although I can actually accept magic as an answer, not something that supposed to be scientific, yet has no explanation that makes any sense.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I know, right? Stupid magic! Super-strength or hyper senses or a physically personified id created by radioactive waste exposure is so much more plausible.

 

[The Question]

I know, right? Stupid magic! Super-strength or hyper senses or a physically personified id created by radioactive waste exposure is so much more plausible.

Actually, super strength and hyper senses are much more plausible.

 

[Kitsune]

Personally I wonder about the SHRA registering magic users. I mean how would they determine who actually uses real magic? Would David Copperfield have to register. Would Sigfried and Roy? If the general public found out about it, wouldn't it seem like a witch hunt, literally? Does the general public even believe in Magic?

 

[Kitsune]

Personally I wonder about the SHRA registering magic users. I mean how would they determine who actually uses real magic? Would David Copperfield have to register. Would Sigfried and Roy? If the general public found out about it, wouldn't it seem like a witch hunt, literally? Does the general public even believe in Magic?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Actually, super strength and hyper senses are much more plausible.

That wasn't really my point. The abilities have some scientific plausibility, but the underlying causes given for them do not. Magic users can get super-strength and hyper senses too, and the non-magic crowd can gain abilities well out of the realm of scientific plausibility. Assigning the cause of those abilities to radioactive waste exposure is the same thing as assigning it to magic. They're functionally interchangeable as roots for superhuman abilities--just different words on the page.

 

[Union Jack]

dunno if it marvel or DC but wasn't magic explain as power gained or used from some other dimension...tapping into it..kinda like flash and his speed force.??

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Marvel. Though it's still super shakey science.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't know. I prefer not having magic explained. The arcane arts lose their edge if they're not arcane.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Agreed. It loses it's romance of not following the rules. Otherwise, someone like Iron Man or Mr. Fantastic will eventually become more powerful at the actual science of magic than someone like Doctor Strange.

That, and the feats that magic commits to utterly destroys certain laws of physics.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

The most I like to see in the way of explanations for magic are abstract outlines, like DC had before Infinite Crisis, where all magic could be boiled down to Order vs. Chaos.

 

[Caliber]

It varies depending on their scope and level of interaction. Dr. Strange has to protect not simply America, but the entire realm of Earth, which is why he is sort of free from having to officially register. However, if he helps SHRA violaters, he could be charged with "aiding known felons", which is technically a felony unto itself. Of course, the U.S. can nary afford to not have a Sorceror Supreme about, so they likely will cut Strange breaks. Dracula would never have to register, and would be considered a menace anyway. Like no one would expect Blackheart to register.

Although if he did, he'd become a Thunderbolt. Marvel's gov't has almost always been fairer with villians than heroes if they agreed to become grunts.

Lessor beings, like Blade and Ghost Rider, do have to register and are considered "mysically empowered mutates" or "magic users". Brother Voodoo registered, for instance.

I gleamed this much from the CW BATTLE DAMAGE REPORT.

As Iron Man would say, "I really hate magic."

Ghost Rider wouldn't register like all the rest who gave up being heroes to be cops with powers.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

The most I like to see in the way of explanations for magic are abstract outlines, like DC had before Infinite Crisis, where all magic could be boiled down to Order vs. Chaos.

I didn't even like that. I liked it when magic just wasn't defined, period. When it was something that you couldn't expect or predict. Something that ALWAYS had a suprise, not even some odd rubric, outside of the ultimate uses of the magic. (For killing, healing, exorcising and the like.)

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

yeah, there's a reason why Doc Strange is on the New Avengers, dude...

Actually, it's apparently because Doctor Strange feels bad.