Question about Telekinesis

[Jack Bauer]

On the HeroesWiki, it mentions on the Telekinesis page that Sylar is able to augment his own physical strength and also lower his foot steps. How is this possible when the power move things with your mind?

 

[CaptainGenerica]

It's not that hard to understand.

You can move things with your muscles.
You can move things with your mind.
If you use both at the same time you can move things even better.

I don't know what "lower his footsteps means". But if it's referring the time he sneaked up on the woman with super-hearing, without her hearing him, it's because he used his telekinesis to levitate.

 

[Jack Bauer]

Aside from the basics, what can someone do on Heroes with a telekinetic power?

 

[Morg]

Aside from the basics, what can someone do on Heroes with a telekinetic power?

Sylar flipped a truck once and pretty sure he stopped some bullets hitting him

 

[Neptune]

He did. I miss that Sylar.

 

[Jack Bauer]

Yeah, but that's because he could use the Telekinesis to the max limit from his ability.

And I do agree I miss the Sylar that was evil.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Basically in Heroes you are uber powerful if you have telekinesis. Its a cool power but they like with Peter have made the power far to powerful. Flip massive trucks over, pin people to walls, cut open their heads (never thought of doing that with TK until this show), stop their hearts, cut off their oxygen intake...They need to tone it down a little along with some other powers.

 

[LEGO Spidey]

Why do they need to tone it down, if TK is indeed that versatile an ability in the hands of someone clever and creative enough? The last thing this, or any other TV show, needs is more dumbed-down characters. Sylar is nigh-unstoppable with TK, and that's exactly the way any character who has the ability should be. It's likely the most versatile power ever.

 

[shadowdog]

well, the same thing could be said for telepathy on the show too
Matt basically has the power to control people, make illusions in their minds, put people into a vegitative state, take people out of a vegitative state caused by other telepaths as well as mental communication, lie detection, finding people, etc
TK isn't more powerful, I think it has more to do with how people use it.
In Peter or Sylar's hands, I'm sure they'd be able to use any power to it's fullest.

 

[LEGO Spidey]

That's precisely my point: in the right hands (read Sylar's, as I'm not too sure about Peter being able to use the power to it's fullest extent) TK is a devastating ability. Telepathy could be too, in the hands of anyone clever and/or ruthless enough to use if effectively. I'd actually like to see Sylar acquire telepathy. Peter, Matt, Maury and Arthur don't seem to have realized how to exploit in full. The idea of Sylar getting his hands on (a form of) telepathy is what drove Eden to shoot herself in the head.

 

[shadowdog]

I dunno, Peter flipped a truck over in Ireland with his TK, and Maury was pretty much a monster with his abilities, and Matt's sort of on his way.
Although, I agree that Sylar probably uses his abilities the best out of all lof them.

 

[Primal Slayer]

They have just made Peter and Sylar to powerful to the point of no excitement. Whenever Sylar uses his tk he usually wins which gets boring after awhile.

 

[Koz]

I agree, Primal Slayer. I've always wanted Sylar to lose telekinesis. It reminds me of playing a fighting game with someone who keeps using the same move over and over again, and you can't counter it, and they keep getting cheap kills in. It's like, "Enough already! Do something different, fool!" It's just too easy for Sylar to beat someone down with just that one power. Snore.

 

[Steyin]

I agree, Primal Slayer. I've always wanted Sylar to lose telekinesis. It reminds me of playing a fighting game with someone who keeps using the same move over and over again, and you can't counter it, and they keep getting cheap kills in. It's like, "Enough already! Do something different, fool!" It's just too easy for Sylar to beat someone down with just that one power. Snore.

Hadouken...hadouken...hadouken...hadouken...hadouken...hadouken...

 

[storyteller]

Keep one thing in mind, Sylar is a predator. He stalks his victims and pounces. My only beef with the power is that all you have to do is close the windpipe or twirl youre fingers and someone breaks their neck. But the real weakness of the ability is that it requires focus. If heroes would do a real fight, Sylar wouldnt have the focus to be as powerful with tk.

 

[Nokio]

Why do they need to tone it down, if TK is indeed that versatile an ability in the hands of someone clever and creative enough? The last thing this, or any other TV show, needs is more dumbed-down characters. Sylar is nigh-unstoppable with TK, and that's exactly the way any character who has the ability should be. It's likely the most versatile power ever.

TK is a cool power but other powers are just as Cool. For me it would be Magnetism like Magneto. Now thats versitility. It just depends on the power. No way could either Peter or Sylar beat Magneto, hell Jean Grey is a way more powerful TK then either of those guys and she's never beaten magneto. I'm just talking regular Mutant Jean and not the all powerful Phoenix.

Even massive stength is pretty cool. That TK power wouldn't do Sylar a bit of good against the Hulk. I don't know about Sylar being nigh unbstopable. I think it's very poorly written when Sylar just takes out anyone he comes in contact with so easily. There are a a few powers that I've seen on that Show where the people should've been able to put up a fight. Sylar can't block powers but yet it seems the people just sit there and let there skull get sliced open. Now granted most of Sylar victims were caught off guard during the first season and that's fine, but it gotten pretty old fast and yet he still doing it. Sylar is being written to repiticious. I wanna see someone kick his @ss.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Telekinesis would be quite effective against the Hulk. All that is necessary is to hold him off the ground and squeeze his carotid artery. That would cut off the supply of blood to his brain and kill him. You could also spin him around at high speed until he passes out. Vance Astrovik did the airplane spin on the Thing when they were with the UCWF. You could also throw the Hulk high in the air and make sure that he landed on his head and then repeat the process until the Hulk is beaten.

 

[Nokio]

Telekinesis would be quite effective against the Hulk. All that is necessary is to hold him off the ground and squeeze his carotid artery. That would cut off the supply of blood to his brain and kill him. You could also spin him around at high speed until he passes out. Vance Astrovik did the airplane spin on the Thing when they were with the UCWF. You could also throw the Hulk high in the air and make sure that he landed on his head and then repeat the process until the Hulk is beaten.

Ok that sounds good in theory, but what hero has TK powerful enough to actually hold the Hulk? You don't actually believe that Sylar could hold the hulk and slice his skull open do you? The Hulk has to much rage and power which has been proven time and time again. Hulk tore Onslaught apart and he had massive power. Jean Grey tried to hold him but couldn't. She did however use her TK to shut his eyes to slow him down. Regular mutant Jean Grey is arguably or was the most powerful TK user in comics if were talking about superhumans.

Um the hulk isn't a regular human and have a regular body where his Carotid artory could be squeezed as effectivly on a regular person. If the Hulk can survive at ground zero of a nuclear blast, or fall from high planetary orbit unharmed then what you mentioned has already gone out the window. I think it's safe to assume that artery on him is pretty durable. Lets also point out that TK requires concentration. You're assuming that the Hulk is going to just stand there let Sylar or any TK user use their power and not put up any resistence. He is not the ridiculas passive peons or people who have power but for the life of me seem unable to defend themselves or put up a fight that Sylar has murdered. It the same every week on Heroes. Sylar comes in and lifts up someone and kills them. This is poor writting. I can buy sylar getting the drop on some but everyone is passive? or just go why bother fighting. I've not seen one person fight that Sylar has killed. Sylar wouldn't last a min against the Hulk. TK requires focus as well. The Hulk is battled seasoned. Syler wouldn't even get the chance to focus on some artery when he has over 2000 pounds of rage charging at at him yelling HULK SMASH! Did you see in the movie when Hulk ripped them doors off the truck or whatever at the college and was trying to smash Emil Blonsky. You think Sylar or any TK user can focus when something like that is on top of them. Opps Sylar is a blood spot.

FUNNY YOU MENTIONED MARVEL BOY AND USING TK TO LIFT THE HULK OFF THE GROUND. Vance actaully did use his TK to lift the Hulk off the ground and try and hold him so he couldn't fight. The Hulk did his thuderclap and sent Vance along with the rest of the New Warriors flying.

 

[Nokio]

Keep one thing in mind, Sylar is a predator. He stalks his victims and pounces. My only beef with the power is that all you have to do is close the windpipe or twirl youre fingers and someone breaks their neck. But the real weakness of the ability is that it requires focus. If heroes would do a real fight, Sylar wouldnt have the focus to be as powerful with tk.

Sylar was interesting at first but now he's a character that I just want to go away. The writers obvioulsy have no idea what direction to take the characters in. It's why the show is suffering. You have these people with powers and can't write real world reality? What is the real chances of Sylar showing up to people who's name were on a list and unaware of what their power is and he is just able to kill everyone of them? It's straight BS. You're dealing with people who all have different powers. Now some I say yes but the chances of running into someone who's ruthless or can use their power effectivly is very belivable. Sylar can't block powers, but yet everyone stands their, put up no fight and is just killed.

Heroes is just getting to predictable Sylar is boring. I agree with you. If their was an actual battle Sylar wouldn't be able to roll over his victims. He wouldn't have the time to concentrate or focus enough fighting for his life.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Ok that sounds good in theory, but what hero has TK powerful enough to actually hold the Hulk? You don't actually believe that Sylar could hold the hulk and slice his skull open do you? The Hulk has to much rage and power which has been proven time and time again. Hulk tore Onslaught apart and he had massive power. Jean Grey tried to hold him but couldn't. She did however use her TK to shut his eyes to slow him down. Regular mutant Jean Grey is arguably or was the most powerful TK user in comics if were talking about superhumans.

Um the hulk isn't a regular human and have a regular body where his Carotid artory could be squeezed as effectivly on a regular person. If the Hulk can survive at ground zero of a nuclear blast, or fall from high planetary orbit unharmed then what you mentioned has already gone out the window. I think it's safe to assume that artery on him is pretty durable. Lets also point out that TK requires concentration. You're assuming that the Hulk is going to just stand there let Sylar or any TK user use their power and not put up any resistence. He is not the ridiculas passive peons or people who have power but for the life of me seem unable to defend themselves or put up a fight that Sylar has murdered. It the same every week on Heroes. Sylar comes in and lifts up someone and kills them. This is poor writting. I can buy sylar getting the drop on some but everyone is passive? or just go why bother fighting. I've not seen one person fight that Sylar has killed. Sylar wouldn't last a min against the Hulk. TK requires focus as well. The Hulk is battled seasoned. Syler wouldn't even get the chance to focus on some artery when he has over 2000 pounds of rage charging at at him yelling HULK SMASH! Did you see in the movie when Hulk ripped them doors off the truck or whatever at the college and was trying to smash Emil Blonsky. You think Sylar or any TK user can focus when something like that is on top of them. Opps Sylar is a blood spot.

FUNNY YOU MENTIONED MARVEL BOY AND USING TK TO LIFT THE HULK OFF THE GROUND. Vance actaully did use his TK to lift the Hulk off the ground and try and hold him so he couldn't fight. The Hulk did his thuderclap and sent Vance along with the rest of the New Warriors flying.

Marvel has some very strong telekinetics. Vance Astrovik, Jean Grey, Rachel Summers, Nate Grey, Cable, Candra, and probably more. Any one of these is powerful enough to pick the Hulk up off the ground. That is all it would take. Once off the ground strength is useless. There is nothing to touch or push against. All you can do is hang in midair helpless. This is what Sylar does. He picks them up off the ground. Sylar and Peter have telekinesis strong enough to tear a vault door off. This would overpower anyone who did not have high level superstrength even if they did have something to push against. We don't know if those with superstrength in the heroverse can resist that much force. This would also be more than enough force to constrict the Hulks carotid artery. It takes only a tiny amount of force to squeeze the artery in a human, only a few ounces of pressure. Compare that to lifting strength and you can derive a ratio that may be somewhat accurate. Compare this to the Hulks lifting strength and you find that it would be well within Sylars power level. TK is simply a much more formidable power than strength.

 

[November Rain]

they should get rid of tk completely. far far far too overused.

everyone's got about a billion powers but they use the same ones over and over and over.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Tk does overpower other powers very easily I agree, but it is a very basic power in scifi and fantasy. Excluding it leaves a gaping hole in the power list. Limiting its power would be much more effective storywise. The tk that peter and Sylar have is too strong and too reflexively used.

 

[November Rain]

that's the problem, heroes is repeating old ground with cliche powers.

It should be pushing the boundaries of imagination and utilisation of abilities. It's not even as if those who have it have naturally got it, they've stolen it with a vast amount of other stuff. If it was one character who got it naturally, toning it down would be fine but to showcase the array of other abilities in peter and sylar, it needs to be removed.

what's the point in having all these powers if only use that one.

if anything claire shouldn't have been regenerative but a tk person.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

I agree about Claire. Regeneration while a nice power really leaves here as a perennial victim. Too weak physically to fight anyone and no aggressive uses for the power. But Sylar would have taken it from her if he didn't get it somewhere else first and maybe even if he did. Claire is stuck in two scenarios: either keep Sylar away from her or give her a power that enables her to survive him. That, unfortunately, means regeneration. Best might have been to give her a force field. They gave another character in a graphic novel that power.

 

[LexCorp]

While saying that they need to show other powers for a more interesting affect on the show and to peak our curiosity it makes sense why Sylar would use TK over anyother power that he has aquired.

It works the best for him.

If you have a bunch of weapons and the best that you have is a gun....and the rest of your weapons are ...oh say knives and boxing gloves with barbwire on them...most will use the gun to fight. Of course it would be fun to see the others used. It just makes sense.