Question about Telekinesis

[November Rain]

I agree about Claire. Regeneration while a nice power really leaves here as a perennial victim. Too weak physically to fight anyone and no aggressive uses for the power. But Sylar would have taken it from her if he didn't get it somewhere else first and maybe even if he did. Claire is stuck in two scenarios: either keep Sylar away from her or give her a power that enables her to survive him. That, unfortunately, means regeneration. Best might have been to give her a force field. They gave another character in a graphic novel that power.

The problem with sylar is that if you give him the most effective weapon straight away, than his killing sprees are all in vain.

if you leave the ultimate prize away from him, then he always has motivation.

so it just depends on how you weight it, is a regenerative defensive weapon better than a tk offensive weapon.

personally i say no and that;s why claire should have both (but maybe has problems acessing when each one kicks in).

again in defense to this, sylar should be limited to three powers at a given time while peter should only have powers of original owners in his proximity

arthur should have been the only person able to take and retain on a maaaaassss scale.

 

[LexCorp]

The problem with sylar is that if you give him the most effective weapon straight away, than his killing sprees are all in vain.

if you leave the ultimate prize away from him, then he always has motivation.

so it just depends on how you weight it, is a regenerative defensive weapon better than a tk offensive weapon.

personally i say no and that;s why claire should have both (but maybe has problems acessing when each one kicks in).

again in defense to this, sylar should be limited to three powers at a given time while peter should only have powers of original owners in his proximity

arthur should have been the only person able to take and retain on a maaaaassss scale.

I will agree with the idea that Sylar needs to have better motivation than just greed or the hunger to push him forward given that he already has TK.

Although Peter, Sylar and Arthur can all take on lots of powers at once and use them at once they still can be beaten back down to size if the circustances are right so they are not all powerfull and dull to watch. Not that you said that last bit just going with the flow.

I think the main issue I have with Heroes - and this is just a tiny issue as I like the show is that it should leave behind the idea like most TV shows do and turn off all the character development for a moment and let loose with powers and fun stuff like that for a moment - or at least balance it out.

 

[Nokio]

Marvel has some very strong telekinetics. Vance Astrovik, Jean Grey, Rachel Summers, Nate Grey, Cable, Candra, and probably more. Any one of these is powerful enough to pick the Hulk up off the ground. That is all it would take. Once off the ground strength is useless. There is nothing to touch or push against. All you can do is hang in midair helpless. This is what Sylar does. He picks them up off the ground. Sylar and Peter have telekinesis strong enough to tear a vault door off. This would overpower anyone who did not have high level superstrength even if they did have something to push against. We don't know if those with superstrength in the heroverse can resist that much force. This would also be more than enough force to constrict the Hulks carotid artery. It takes only a tiny amount of force to squeeze the artery in a human, only a few ounces of pressure. Compare that to lifting strength and you can derive a ratio that may be somewhat accurate. Compare this to the Hulks lifting strength and you find that it would be well within Sylars power level. TK is simply a much more formidable power than strength.

Of course they are strong enough to lift the Hulk, but holding him is a different matter. I'll give it to Nate Grey though, he out of all the TK's would be the only one powerful enough to hold the Hulk. Of course Jean as well when she has or is The Phoenix. The force the Hulk would be pushing against is TK. It is like a field sort of. Iv'e seen Rachel Summers try and hold back a wave of water with her TK. She said it was to much force pusing against her TK and she couldn't hold it. I've seen Jean Grey try and use her TK to hold the Juggernault and she couldn't. As for that artery you could have a point and it'll no doubt work on less durable heroes but I've seen Nick fury shove a grenade in the Hulk's mouth and it didn't hurt him, so his insides are pretty tough.

We probably will never agree, but you seem to be a big fan of Heroes, and I enjoy the show to, but I've been into comics since i was a kid and have seen many many different stories and battles. I've seen the Hulk face off against to many powerful villians and heroes and team of heroes and he wasn't taken down. This is as bad as when someone mentioned that Sylar would be better suited fighting Magneto. That was laughable and So was someone trying to say that Peter could beat Superman. I'm sorry dude, Sylar does not have the power to defeat the Hulk. Phoenixless Jean Grey is more powerful then Sylar and she can't defeat the Hulk by her self, well if it's just her TK, her telepathy is a different matter. Sylar would be trying to get as far away from him as possiable if he wants to stay alive.

You're not wrong though that the Hulk strength would be useless if he is lifted off the ground and their's nothing for him to push against, but the only force that can cause this is gravity realistically. If someone controlled gravity they could lift the hulk and he wouldn't have any force to push against. Well they would actually be nullifying the effects of gravity on him, then his strength would be useless cause he would just be floating and no force is holding him.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

If a telekinetic is lifting the Hulk then his strength cannot affect the tk. It could if the tk was directed at an arm or leg since that would be what the tk was targeted at. But if the Hulk was being lifted he could only oppose it with flight which he does not have. Someone with flight could resist the tk. Strength could not affect the tk because their would be no interaction between the two, no contact. Tk is an inherently intangible effect that interacts with only that which it is specifically targeted or an energy that can affect psi energy. Psi energy can be manifested in a quasi-physical form sometimes referred to as psychoplasm. Psychoplasm could possibly be opposed by physical strength since it has a physical existence itself. This may be what the Phoenix Effect is made of.

 

[November Rain]

I kinda do agree with the idea of lifting the hulk off the ground would render him pretty useless, however he is one heavy bastard....