CFlash said:
Judging by what some of you "fans" consider 'canon,' that doesn't mean very much. In fact, it means zilch.
You "fans"???
WTF?
Okay, where do you come off with something like that?
Myself, being a huge fan of Transformers...G1/G2 & BW are the best and will always be the best. Nothing will ever top those storylines, not by a long shot. I don't think anyone will ever say different. Also, I'm only a fan of the newer TF toylines, I don't care about nor watch the shows, and the comics have been hit or miss with the new stuff. Only the good and better toys keep my interest, cause I love Transformers toys.
And if you must know...this is how most big Transfans breakdown TF Story Cannon:
A. -- G1 US Cartoon
B. -- G1/G2 Marvel US Comics
C. -- G1 Marvel UK Comics
D. -- G1 Japanese Cartoon
E. -- G1 Japanese Manga
F. -- G1 Dreamwave Comics
A. & B. -- BW ties in with several points from the G1 Cartoon, but draws a lot more from the US Comics, including the Vok who were once the Swarm that decimated the TF's in the G2 Comics. BM - direct sequel to BW, so it too ties back to G1/G2.
From there on out, it becomes stories of Alternate Universes (a.k.a. Retellings of the Transformers Mythos).
G. RID
H. Armadaverse Cartoons (Armada, Energon, & Cybertron)
I. Armadaverse Comics
**NOTE - I left out the BotCon Exclusive stories, the Wreckers, and various One-Shot comics. I've also left out the IDW Comics...those are also brand new stories.
My Point in listing out all this continuities and stories is to show you, how many times G1 itself has been redone, over and over and over.
Dude, to me, Transformers only existed between 1983 (yes, before Hasbro + Marvel came up with a story) and 1987 (the year I--- and pretty much an entire generation of people---- stopped caring).
That doesn't mean I want to see a corny remake of the original story. It DOES mean that I think "The Quest For The Energon Cube" is a ******ed story and eons DUMBER than the original (intelligent and topical) story.
And btw, technically G1 didn't end until 1989. And in 1990 G2 came out and ran until 1993 (go by the toys, then 1995). Then in 1996 Beast Wars came out and re-connected with G1. And BW's sequel Beast Machines connected as well with the whole western Transformers story.
G1/G2 was the original storyline.
BW/BM technically is now a part of that. So by technical standings the original Transformers didn't end until around 1998. Though many will say they don't want to admit Beast Machines really happened, but still.
Also, Quest for the Energon Cube (a form/new interpretation of the Creation Matrix), is something that ties in greatly with the G1 comics continuity. 1/3rd of the entire G1 comics focused on the Matrix of Leadership or the Creation Matrix (as it was first called before it was put into a tangible object). So just cause it's called The Energon Cube (stupid name, yes I know) doesn't mean there isn't a storyline or multiple storylines that are being used as references.