R.I.P Ultimate Wolverine vs Hulk?

[squeekness]

There was no hostility. It was a joke. Calm down, you act like I'm after you or something. Reread it.

Sarcastic humor doesn't work so well in post.

 

[Themanofbat]

What Ultimate books have you read?

I read Ultimate crap at my store, and TPB's that my lazy friends buy. (Spider-Man, X-Men, Ultimates, FF, et al...)

The Ultimate line is nothing more than a place for LAZY writers to write stories where they don't have to do a little homework about characters that have history... and the Ultimate line is being spoonfed and read by LAZY comic book readers who are simply too lazy to want to learn something about the REAL Marvel Universe.

I would have rathered that all these creators have come up with NEW characters to spin their ideas on, instead of using cheap photocopied versions of characters that we've all grown to love.

And that's my 2 cents on the subject...

 

[Apprentice]

I know crap when I see it. I dont have to watch Little Man to know its a piece of crap movie.

Uh...yeah you do. All you can make otherwise are assumptions. You can't watch a trailer or read a solicit and say "that film/comic is rubbish". You can say "that trailer/solicit is rubbish" or "that film/comic looks rubbish", but you can't say it is because you haven't seen/read it.

 

[storyteller]

remember ultimate ironman.

 

[gildea]

I read Ultimate crap at my store, and TPB's that my lazy friends buy. (Spider-Man, X-Men, Ultimates, FF, et al...)

The Ultimate line is nothing more than a place for LAZY writers to write stories where they don't have to do a little homework about characters that have history... and the Ultimate line is being spoonfed and read by LAZY comic book readers who are simply too lazy to want to learn something about the REAL Marvel Universe.

I would have rathered that all these creators have come up with NEW characters to spin their ideas on, instead of using cheap photocopied versions of characters that we've all grown to love.

And that's my 2 cents on the subject...

Deary me.

 

[Darthphere]

Uh...yeah you do. All you can make otherwise are assumptions. You can't watch a trailer or read a solicit and say "that film/comic is rubbish". You can say "that trailer/solicit is rubbish" or "that film/comic looks rubbish", but you can't say it is because you haven't seen/read it.

Actually, I can, and I did. Little Man is crap.

 

[Apprentice]

Actually, I can, and I did. Little Man is crap.

You can't, and you didn't. I wouldn't know, but from the name, it sounds pretty stupid.

 

[Darthphere]

You can't, and you didn't. I wouldn't know, but from the name, it sounds pretty stupid.

Exactly, its crap.

 

[Apprentice]

No, it sounds that way. Unless you've seen it, you can't judge that.

 

[Doc Destruction]

I haven't seen it either...and it's crap. I'm SURE of it.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I didn't live through the Holocaust, but I know that it was ****ty.

 

[Horrorfan]

I didn't live through the Holocaust, but I know that it was ****ty.

That may be probably the worst comparison I have ever heard, comparing a movie potentially being bad to the extermination (or attempted) of a species.

Im not PC at all, but that was just....wow.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Just proving a point. You don't have to experience something to know it's bad.

 

[Apprentice]

Okay, now that is a completely different thing. You got from comics and films to the Holocaust? There is no connection between them. It's one extreme to the other, and you went to an extreme that didn't really need to be gone to.

 

[JackBauer]

fine, how 'bout a closer one: I've never tasted s#!t, but I know I wouldn't like it.

 

[Apprentice]

Er...still completely different. Besides, you might like the taste.

It's like saying "I've never tried baked beans, but I don't like them".

 

[Doc Destruction]

No, it's more like "I've never tried blood pudding, but I know it's AWFUL."

Better comparison.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Okay, now that is a completely different thing. You got from comics and films to the Holocaust? There is no connection between them. It's one extreme to the other, and you went to an extreme that didn't really need to be gone to.

Whether it was more extreme than necessary is not the point. Your argument thus far has been that people can't reliably determine they wouldn't like something unless they've experienced it. My example shows that they can. Unless, of course, you'd care to argue whether or not a person would enjoy living through the Holocaust. If not, well... game, set, match.

 

[Apprentice]

Your example was so extreme that it doesn't compare to what we were talking about. You can't compare the death and persecution of six million people to a comic book. They just don't match. The contrast is too ridiculous, you can't apply what we're talking about to them both. So, no game, set, or match. You can't know something is awful until you've tried it. You can only think or assume it's awful.

 

[Darthphere]

Your example was so extreme that it doesn't compare to what we were talking about. You can't compare the death and persecution of six million people to a comic book. They just don't match. The contrast is too ridiculous, you can't apply what we're talking about to them both. So, no game, set, or match. You can't know something is awful until you've tried it. You can only think or assume it's awful.

So the only way id know a anal spike hurts like a ***** would be to experience it?


Im with Corp on this one.

 

[Apprentice]

Again, how are you getting from comic books to that? Some things are blatantly obvious. You don't have to hold a skunk to know it smells, because it's been documented. It's fact. You can't dispute fact. But with things that are based on opinions, including comics and films, you can only make assumations without reading/seeing it because what someone else thinks of it, or only having a little snippet, only allows you to think what someone else thinks or your opinion based on that snippet.

You can't dispute fact, and it's fact that you can not say something "is" something if you haven't read it. Saying that "War and Peace" is thick is fact. Saying "it's rubbish, but I haven't read it" is opinion with no evidence - an assumation.

 

[Darthphere]

Again, how are you getting from comic books to that? Some things are blatantly obvious. You don't have to hold a skunk to know it smells, because it's been documented. It's fact. You can't dispute fact. But with things that are based on opinions, including comics and films, you can only make assumations without reading/seeing it because what someone else thinks of it, or only having a little snippet, only allows you to think what someone else thinks or your opinion based on that snippet.

You can't dispute fact, and it's fact that you can not say something "is" something if you haven't read it. Saying that "War and Peace" is thick is fact. Saying "it's rubbish, but I haven't read it" is opinion with no evidence - an assumation.

I saw White Chicks, it sucked tremendous balls. Little Man also sucks trememndous balls.


I guess youre going to watch the next uwe Boll movie to see if its any good right?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Your example was so extreme that it doesn't compare to what we were talking about. You can't compare the death and persecution of six million people to a comic book. They just don't match. The contrast is too ridiculous, you can't apply what we're talking about to them both. So, no game, set, or match. You can't know something is awful until you've tried it. You can only think or assume it's awful.

Your still missing the point. Extreme or not, I've provided a situation where your argument doesn't work. Hence, you've either gotta qualify your statement or refute my argument which would, in this case, mean you'd be arguing that living through the Holocaust ain't so bad.

 

[Apprentice]

No, you're missing my point. Go back and read the post you quoted, and then reply, instead of repeating the points that were already answered.

 

[Darthphere]

No, you're missing my point. Go back and read the post you quoted, and then reply, instead of repeating the points that were already answered.

So are you watching the next Uwe Boll movie?