The Amazing Spider-Man Raimi on past and present

[weezerspider]

The people who call it horrible (specifically, ignorant people that only see comic movies because they feel like it an have no understanding of the character) are the ones who are ignorant to film making.

Perhaps you don't understand film making. The plot was a mess, The writing was pathetic, the acting was sub-par and the movie was carried by special effects. High Quality movies are character and story driven films. I can honestly say I am biased. I love the character of Spiderman soo much that I enjoy Spiderman 3 to and extend. I think it is an enjoyable film, but the film really is not well-done at all. Trying to be unbiased, this is a pretty bad film. This film was really poorly done.

 

[Venom75]

I said Arad brought in his two cents, meaning the symbiote and Venom, but still, Sam Raimi could have at least treated the symbiote properly. The only thing I liked about Raimi's version is of how it crawled around like a spider...which only puts emphasis on the similarities and opposites of Spider-Man and Venom.

I agree with that. If Raimi didn't fully understand Venom or the symbiote then he should've done homework on it or had someone there who knew thte character. What about Topher Grace himself? He has always claimed to be a huge Venom fan. Why didn't he speak up and say,"Um,yeah...Sam? Venom wouldn't do that,or say this?"

 

[Octoberist]

I really think it was a situation where we had to be there to fully understand what Raimi was going through.

 

[spider-neil]

To me it's like this

Better then SM3 are
SM1-2
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight
Watchmen
X1-2
Iron Man
Batman 89
Daredevil DC
Incredible Hulk
V for Vendetta


Worst then SM3
Elektra
Catwoman
Blade Trinity
Batman And Robin
Batman Forever
Hulk
FF1-2

At the Same level as SM3{Mediocre at best but not good in my book}
Wolverine
X3
Daredevil TC
Ghost Rider

no offence but I enjoyed SM3 a HELL of a lot more than watchman which was a peice of absolute ****. I saw sm3 several times but was practically DRAGGED to see watchmen the second time. when watchmen comes out on blu ray I will probably get it only because I want to see how the did dr. manhatten other than that I could quite happily never watch that pile of dirt ever again.

 

[Infinity9999x]

no offence but I enjoyed SM3 a HELL of a lot more than watchman which was a peice of absolute ****. I saw sm3 several times but was practically DRAGGED to see watchmen the second time. when watchmen comes out on blu ray I will probably get it only because I want to see how the did dr. manhatten other than that I could quite happily never watch that pile of dirt ever again.

I think Watchmen comes down to more of a matter of taste. The GN is praised as the best comic ever, but it is by no means the most read ever, and that's because it caters to a very specific crowd. Watchmen isn't exactly a "picker-upper" in terms of content. However, it's plot was much more intricate and intellectual than any of the Spider-man movies.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Perhaps you don't understand film making. The plot was a mess, The writing was pathetic, the acting was sub-par and the movie was carried by special effects. High Quality movies are character and story driven films. I can honestly say I am biased. I love the character of Spiderman soo much that I enjoy Spiderman 3 to and extend. I think it is an enjoyable film, but the film really is not well-done at all. Trying to be unbiased, this is a pretty bad film. This film was really poorly done.

I understand film making. We all have different opinions of films, specifically this film, but as I said, calling it horrible is pushing it too far.

 

[American_Hobo]

Raimi's latest movies are really terrible. I mean Grudge? Boogeyman? And Drag me to hell looks like direct-to-dvd quality.
I just hope Spiderman 4 is much better than those movies.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Actually, he didn't direct Grudge or Boogeyman, he produced them.

 

[American_Hobo]

Yeah I know that but he was still a producer on those movies and those movies were terrible. And Drag Me to Hell looks no different.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Drag Me To Hell is getting fantastic reviews everywhere.

 

[American_Hobo]

It is? LOL.
I still won't watch it though. Movie looks too stupid.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ Why? I mean, it doesn't have to be R-rated to be scary as hell, if you that's what you're saying.

 

[Infinity9999x]

^^ Why? I mean, it doesn't have to be R-rated to be scary as hell, if you that's what you're saying.

Yeah, it is getting great reviews. And honestly, I think the rating system is all kinds of F*ed up. I mean, just because there isn't any nudity and a little blood, doesn't mean that the movie should be friggin pg-13. I saw the Unborn (which was horrible) but even so, it had extremely disturbing visuals, disturbing enough that I thought it should easily be rated R.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Yeah, it is getting great reviews. And honestly, I think the rating system is all kinds of F*ed up. I mean, just because there isn't any nudity and a little blood, doesn't mean that the movie should be friggin pg-13. I saw the Unborn (which was horrible) but even so, it had extremely disturbing visuals, disturbing enough that I thought it should easily be rated R.

Exactly.

 

[LightningFlash]

^^ Drag Me To Hell is getting fantastic reviews everywhere.

That's not saying much.

Critics liked Milk and Knowing, and those two movies sucked.

 

[LightningFlash]

Okay, X-men isn't trying to put liberal politics into people's faces. It is a film about treating people as equals. These themes have been part of the X-men comics since the characters were first introduced.
Since when are human rights synonomous with liberal politics?

Because Singer mostly used elements on homophobia, and not racism, religion, sex, etc.

 

[venom892]

Well guess what the X-men in the comics now live in San Francisco and Are fighting a bill in California that limits their rights.Sound familar?The X-men have always been a metaphor for several different prosecuted groups including Homosexuals.

 

[venom892]

no offence but I enjoyed SM3 a HELL of a lot more than watchman which was a peice of absolute ****. I saw sm3 several times but was practically DRAGGED to see watchmen the second time. when watchmen comes out on blu ray I will probably get it only because I want to see how the did dr. manhatten other than that I could quite happily never watch that pile of dirt ever again.

Well I enjoyed more then Spider-man 3.Don't worry I take no offence in someone having a different opinion then me.Trust me I'm a huge Spidey Fan and I never thought I'd see the day I enjoyed a Watchmen movie more then a Spider-man movie.

 

[shinlyle]

Transformers was closer to the source material than any Raimi Spider-Man films, ever were.

Really?!

Reality called. It really wants to meet you someday!!

 

[LightningFlash]

Well guess what the X-men in the comics now live in San Francisco and Are fighting a bill in California that limits their rights.Sound familar?The X-men have always been a metaphor for several different prosecuted groups including Homosexuals.

Wow....

so next will the X-Men travel back in time to Sodom and Gomorrah?

PLEASE SAY YES!!!!!!

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

That's not saying much.

Critics liked Milk and Knowing, and those two movies sucked.

Haven't seen those, but I plan to. Anyway, how does that say Drag Me To Hell will suck?

 

[LightningFlash]

^^ Because one should never listen to critics.

But that's just me. Roger Ebert was prime in his time, but his views of films are very much poor in taste.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ I actually don't listen to critics often. I find them to be quite ignorant sometimes. However, even Ain't It Cool News gave this film a great review. The film just looks awesome all around.

 

[venom892]

Wow....

so next will the X-Men travel back in time to Sodom and Gomorrah?

PLEASE SAY YES!!!!!!

No but back in the day Mutants were a metaphor for racism.Professor X can be seen as MLK and Magneto as Malcom X.African Americans were the most prosecuted back then these days homosexuals are the ones making headlines in terms of prosecution.So now the X-men are being used as metaphors as prosecution against homosexuals.In ten years it might be another group they are a metaphor for.