The Amazing Spider-Man Raimi talks of SM4

[Hobgoblin]

Personally, I wouldnt read much into what Sam said. After all, its not surprising that he is interested in vampires. As we all know, he started out as a horror director. Besides, he teased us in the SM2 DVD commentary that Harry might realize what a monster Norman was and that he had to be stopped. We know that didnt turn out to be true. We'll see whats going on when the script is finished and we hear about bad guys.


On a side note, I never cared much for Morbius. Spider-Man vs vampire never seemed to fit to me.

 

[SpeterMan3]

Completely agree.

 

[TheSlag]

Morbius would be a mistake, a big mistake, and IMO would mark the official end of this incarnation of the franchise.

So, IF we could get a reboot, with new cast, new director, and ONE that would stay closer to the comic storylines and characters... IT COULD turn out to be the greatest villain Raimi has ever picked. t:

But seriously, I doubt we will ever see Morbius in Spider-Man (movies). Thank God! Well, maybe SM12.. which goes directly to video. With Kirsten playing Aunt May or the Crypt Keeper in a cameo (hey, she wants a more signifcant role.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Slag, I know you funning, but if the franchise ever reboot, I surely wish they start with Chameleon, touch of Peter's parents and how it relates to Chameleon, introduce Norman(not Gobby yet), portray Pete as a Junior in HS, building relationship with the supporting cast, so it want be so forced and manufactured as it appears now.

 

[spider-neil]

morbius actually turns up with the lizard in a classic spidey comic run. put it this way morbius and lizard makes more sense than lizard and kraven, two characters that (as far as I'm aware) have never appeared together in comics or a animated feature.

 

[TheScarecrow]

Personally, I wouldnt read much into what Sam said. After all, its not surprising that he is interested in vampires. As we all know, he started out as a horror director. Besides, he teased us in the SM2 DVD commentary that Harry might realize what a monster Norman was and that he had to be stopped. We know that didnt turn out to be true. We'll see whats going on when the script is finished and we hear about bad guys.

As you say, Morbius is right up Sam's alley and Sam has made it quite clear that he's not going to be told by anyone what is to go into the movie. The Kraven and Lizard scenario holds no more weight because it's supported so much by fans because this is why Venom was included.

Despite not wanting Morbius, I can actually see him in a Sam Raimi Spider-man film more than I can many other villains (especially Kraven, Carnage etc.).

 

[TheSlag]

Slag, I know you funning, but if the franchise ever reboot, I surely wish they start with Chameleon, touch of Peter's parents and how it relates to Chameleon, introduce Norman(not Gobby yet), portray Pete as a Junior in HS, building relationship with the supporting cast, so it want be so forced and manufactured as it appears now.

If they do reboot, I like you hope they start and spend more time with Peter in High School. I do not agree with the Chameleon though. I do not like him as a villain, in a movie based on special effects (CGI), the Chameleon would not be a Must See Villain in my verse.

He kinda falls into the same lineage as Mysterio for me. A villain with Special Effects Abilities in a movie based on Special Effects... CGI.. just takes me out of it completely.

But, as you say, more development of the Peter Parker character, and MUCH more development of "the gang", Peter's supporting characters, would be total greatness IMO. And lay the foundation for the stories to come.

 

[TheSlag]

morbius actually turns up with the lizard in a classic spidey comic run. put it this way morbius and lizard makes more sense than lizard and kraven, two characters that (as far as I'm aware) have never appeared together in comics or a animated feature.

I can see why people think Kraven would fit well with Lizard. Big Game hunter, coming to the concrete jungle to hunt the reported 6 foot Lizard Man, and Peter/Spider-Man, realizing that the Lizard is real, and worse, it's his friend and mentor Dr. Connors. Now he has to try to find a way to save his friend from the nightmare of his own creation, and keep Kraven from hanging the Lizard's head on his wall, as well as keep from getting eaten alive in the process.

But... I still worry about how Kraven the Hunter would come off on the big screen.

I just hope whichever direction they decide on, that Dr. Connors and his family, and his story (Lizard) is the focal point of SM4. Period.

 

[Hobgoblin]

As you say, Morbius is right up Sam's alley and Sam has made it quite clear that he's not going to be told by anyone what is to go into the movie. The Kraven and Lizard scenario holds no more weight because it's supported so much by fans because this is why Venom was included.

Despite not wanting Morbius, I can actually see him in a Sam Raimi Spider-man film more than I can many other villains (especially Kraven, Carnage etc.).

None of these speculations really matter because none of us really know whats going on. We wont know until we see the script.

morbius actually turns up with the lizard in a classic spidey comic run. put it this way morbius and lizard makes more sense than lizard and kraven, two characters that (as far as I'm aware) have never appeared together in comics or a animated feature.

I dont see what it matters if Kraven and Lizard never appeared together in a comic. Ock was never married and Gwen was kidnapped and taken to the bridge, not MJ. Sam isnt following comic continuity.

 

[Venom'sDad]

If they do reboot, I like you hope they start and spend more time with Peter in High School. I do not agree with the Chameleon though. I do not like him as a villain, in a movie based on special effects (CGI), the Chameleon would not be a Must See Villain in my verse.

He kinda falls into the same lineage as Mysterio for me. A villain with Special Effects Abilities in a movie based on Special Effects... CGI.. just takes me out of it completely.

But, as you say, more development of the Peter Parker character, and MUCH more development of "the gang", Peter's supporting characters, would be total greatness IMO. And lay the foundation for the stories to come.

Well, I understand you dislike of Chameleon and Mysterio and from your perspective, your statement make sense. On the surface, I would agree to a point.

However, I envision Chameleon being much more deadier threat and more skillful and tactical... without changing the essence of who he is. Just adding to it. With todays modern technology, weapons, and training tactics(hand-to-hand and espionage)... I can see him as a more interesting and deadier foe to Spidey. Especially as it relates to Pete's parents. Which I would love to see how he came under the care of Ben & May Parker and how the death of his parents form the person he has become, along with Ben's tutelage.

IMO, that would be a good first story... beginning.

 

[TheSlag]

Ii can understand how "logically" it would make a good starting point.

But I still have a problem selling that villain to the public, especially in this day and age, wth how many great villains we have seen come to life on the big screen.

Chameleon.. master of disguise, master of the martial arts fighting, master of... etc. Just comes off weak to me, after the likes of getting to see Doc Ock raise himself up on his tentacles, scale a wall, battle Spidey on top of a train going full speed.

After seeing Gobby, flying on his glider, tossing pumpkin bombs and bat razors. The beauty of Goblin was his balancing act with insanity, balancing act that his arch enemy was Spider-Man, who was like a son to him.. Peter Parker.

I just think it's gonna be a hard sell with Chameleon, see Spidey dodging bullets, dodiging a net trap, etc... see Chameleon disguised as Gwen, tell Peter she does not love him anymore.... see Peter/Tobey make his constipated crying face at that news.. LOL (ok.. sorry, I went overboard there )

I just think in this day and age, Chamelieon would come off as a poor man's Mission Impossible (remember scene with supposed latex mask being pulled off), or a poor-man's ripoff of Punisher.. which we all saw how well that sold with the public.

So, sorry, guess we will agree to disgree. I say no Chameleion.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Well look, don't confuse me with Sam... the thing you describe there is totally not how I envision it playing out... Peter crying, dodging nets, and a rubber face Gwen. LOL. But, I understand your point. I don't expect you to see exactly the way I see things; but hope you grasp a glimpse of my approach.

 

[spider-neil]

None of these speculations really matter because none of us really know whats going on. We wont know until we see the script.



I dont see what it matters if Kraven and Lizard never appeared together in a comic. Ock was never married and Gwen was kidnapped and taken to the bridge, not MJ. Sam isnt following comic continuity.

I'm saying morbius with lizard is a better 'fit' because it has actually happened in the comics and the animated series.
truth to be told I would perfer the movie to just have lizard, loads of time for character development but if there is to be a secondary character I think morbius could serve the story better than kraven, just my opinion.

I loved the angle in TAS were morbius was draining people and spidey was taking the blame so the police came after spidey in force. something like that on the big screen could be fantastic. lizard v morbius v spidey v the police.

 

[FaT_tONle]

I actually wouldn't mind Morbius. If that is Sam's strength then let him do what he feels comfortable with. I'd prefer Kraven of course, but Morbius is a lot more powerful and would be a bigger threat. Plus he's been rumored for a while now so obviously there has to be something to it. I can see Sam going with Vulture, Morbius, Kraven in terms of priority. Maybe even Electro has more priority than Kraven.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

EXCLUSIVE: Sam Raimi Hopes To Start Shooting 'Spider-Man 4' In March 2010

Posted 39 minutes ago by Eric Ditzian in Hot Stuff, Marvel, News

Back in March, a little less than two years after "Spider-Man 3" opened with what was then the biggest first weekend ever, Sony and Marvel Studios announced an official release date for its fourth Spidey flick: May 6, 2011. Still up in the air was the date when production would actually begin.

In an exclusive conversation with MTV News on Friday, franchise director Sam Raimi reveled that if all goes according to plan, shooting will begin early next year.

"We're hoping that it's the first week in March," said Raimi.

At the moment, pre-production is in full swing, even as screenwriter Gary Ross ("great director and a very fine writer," said Raimi) continues to work on the script.

"He's working on a draft," he continued. "I just gave him some notes and he's doing a rewrite right now."

On other fronts, "Spider-Man 4" continues to chug along. "The production is starting to come together," Raimi told us. "I've got a production designer who is starting to design the sets and the environments that the picture will take place in. We just brought aboard Scott Stokdyk as one of the two visual effects supervisors, and I worked with him on all three 'Spider-man' pictures."

With Tobey Maguire and Kirsten Dunst set to reprise their roles, Raimi and his team will soon turn their attention to filling out the rest of the cast. "None of the casting has really taken place, but we're starting to think about that now," the director said.

Our chat with Raimi was a wide-ranging one, filled with talk about where he wants to take the Peter Parker character, which villain(s) might be showing up on the big screen, and much, much more. Check back in the coming days for more exclusive Spidey news.

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/10/0...to-start-shooting-spider-man-4-in-march-2010/

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Aweosme news, IMO! Great to see things coming togeather and i can't wait to hear who the Villian is!

 

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

Aweosme news, IMO! Great to see things coming togeather and i can't wait to hear who the Villian is!

Agreed!

 

[Spider-Ranger]

I feel that this movie will be postponed...

 

[Hobgoblin]

I feel that this movie will be postponed...

What makes you say that?

 

[Octoberist]

i don't know where he got that idea from.

 

[Sebastos]

Awesome news, 5 months away!

 

[Spider-Ranger]

What makes you say that?

Raimi HOPES that filming will start in March... so he's not sure. If they start in March it's "only" a year and two months until the film would be released. I don't think that's enough to make a proper film (or at least better than S-M3, which had more time between filming and release...)

 

[SpaceWay2009]

I thought filming was going to start in January or February. Nonetheless, glad to hear some new news. I guess the script is still being worked on.

 

[spider-neil]

I hope dunst has a minor role, not because I dislike here I just want as much screen time as possible for peter and the villian (hopefully lizard) if it is lizard there is conners/lizard/kurt's wife and child to flesh out.

I really hope sam has learnt from SM3

 

[The Joker]

I really hope sam has learnt from SM3

I think he has:

"Part of the reason I want to make this 'Spider-Man' film – maybe the biggest reason -- is because I know I can do a lot better than I did last time. I love the character so much -- I just think I got off-track. I hope that I found my way home again to the character that the great Stan Lee and Steve Ditko created.

Link: http://www.wjactv.com/atthemovies/21295978/detail.html

He knows SM-3 was a weak effort. He knows the majority of the fans disliked it. I bet even he doesn't care for it much himself. Even when watching SM-3, you can see it's missing the flair that the first two movies had. Raimi seemed to be just going thru the motions. His heart wasn't in it.