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Action-Adventure Rambo Reboot in the Works

I wouldn't ask for either, yet knowing one or the other were inevitable, rather than a reboot/rehash, I would rather a prequel.
If done right and it actually ads something to the story and character. (yeah, unlikely).
Should the title of the thread be changed, or is the difference no longer distinguished?

I imagine a prequel would be based on his team:
In the novelization and film Rambo's Special Forces team, known as Baker Team, consisted of: Messner, Manuel Ortega, Colletta, Jorgenson, Joseph Danforth, Robert Krakhauer, and Delmar Barry. ....all of who were killed in action in various horrific ways. Barry who later died of illness from the war's agent orange chemicals.




Yet, the whole point and pathos of the character is about finding himself at the point where he is meaninglessly alone, unwanted and the last of his ilk.
They are not ever adding anything more to that, sure the idea of seeing a "younger" version of him in action with his whole team, till only him and Delmar Barry are left, might be thrilling, yet it's just more meaningless cashing in on the "brand", no real surprise.
 
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I wouldn't ask for either, yet knowing one or the other were inevitable, rather than a reboot/rehash, I would rather a prequel.
If done right and it actually ads something to the story(yeah, unlikely).

I imagine a prequel would be based on his team.



That’s exactly what this film most likely will be.

Though, if they want to “franchise” it, I assume they’ll have Rambo and his team on different missions.
 
The original intention was for Rambo to represent all men returning from war. Even though the sequels strayed far from this theme, giving him now also a past as a super soldier (because we all know that's what they're going to do) is so dumb that I wouldn't even call it an idea.

Furthermore, I believe there are no Rambo fans. There are Stallone fans who want to see him blow everything up left and right. Unless a new adaptation of the novel is made, any attempt to develop or expand the existing franchise without its charismatic main actor is doomed to failure.
 
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I just cannot see this doing well financially. The audience for this will be people over 50 who stopped going to movies. Rambo doesn't have an audience anymore, and Last Blood was one of the worst action movies I have ever seen. No interest in this at all
 
As a diehard Stallone, I wouldn't think another installment with Sly would work obviously, much less a "Rambo" movie without him.
 
Trump will probably give Stallone a Kennedy Center Honor for this stupid s***. They’ll just play a 40-minute supercut of Rambo slaughtering people because it’s not woke. Who hoo free speech.
 
Stallone and Kiss are not a surprise sadly...but Gloria Gaynor is MAGA? I didnt expect that.

Yeah I hadn’t heard that until now either.

I guess she will survive while the rest of us are going to suffer and die.

I used to like that song but for years I’ve always associated it with this former friend of mine who would sing it at karaoke to serve her ego (she thought she had the greatest voice ever and would openly mock other singers she thought sucked). Oh and she turned out to be a Trumper eventually.
 
Anyway.

This brings me to something I’ve been struggling with and it would be good to get different perspectives on it.

Is the original Rocky movie racist?

Look, Rocky is one of my favorite movies of all time. I’m not a big sports movie person but that one has meant a lot to me for my entire life. I’m originally from Pennsylvania and have a lot of ties to Philly. And I grew up watching that movie with my parents on the regular.

Yet now… when I look back at it, and knowing the type of person Stallone actually is, it makes me question his intentions with that movie. Because it’s a film made in 1976 (not the easiest times for Black Americans) about a white underdog who goes this distance against a rich and powerful Black athlete. It’s essentially about a mediocre white man challenging Black excellence.

Now, granted, Creed could have been any ethnicity and Rocky could have challenged him and it might not have mattered. But I don’t know. I think about it now and it bothers me. And it makes me side eye Stallone even further now that he’s distanced himself from Michael B. Jordan’s Creeed films (which are all pretty excellent and provide a really good insight into the Black experience). Just something I’ve been thinking about. I’m not saying I’m right or directly calling the movie racist but I question whether it might be.
 
Is the original Rocky movie racist?

Look, Rocky is one of my favorite movies of all time. I’m not a big sports movie person but that one has meant a lot to me for my entire life. I’m originally from Pennsylvania and have a lot of ties to Philly. And I grew up watching that movie with my parents on the regular.

Yet now… when I look back at it, and knowing the type of person Stallone actually is, it makes me question his intentions with that movie. Because it’s a film made in 1976 (not the easiest times for Black Americans) about a white underdog who goes this distance against a rich and powerful Black athlete. It’s essentially about a mediocre white man challenging Black excellence.

Now, granted, Creed could have been any ethnicity and Rocky could have challenged him and it might not have mattered. But I don’t know. I think about it now and it bothers me. And it makes me side eye Stallone even further now that he’s distanced himself from Michael B. Jordan’s Creeed films (which are all pretty excellent and provide a really good insight into the Black experience). Just something I’ve been thinking about. I’m not saying I’m right or directly calling the movie racist but I question whether it might be.

It’s not.

You’re reading into it too much when it’s simply was inspired by this.


And because Stallone is a Trump fan doesn’t make him racist either. I mean, come on. Nothing in his history indicates that. In fact he supported Ryan Coogler and gave him his shot.

I hate his support of Trump, but let’s not look for things that are or were never there.
 
It’s not.

You’re reading into it too much when it’s simply was inspired by this.


And because Stallone is a Trump fan doesn’t make him racist either. I mean, come on. Nothing in his history indicates that. In fact he supported Ryan Coogler and gave him his shot.

I hate his support of Trump, but let’s not look for things that are or were never there.

Thanks for this; I wasn’t aware of this inspiration so I’ll read up on it. And I am glad he helped Coogler, who has quickly become one of our best filmmakers.

That said, I take issue with the idea that Stallone’s Trump support doesn’t make him a racist. He may not have always been, however, when you put your support behind a man who does the things that he’s doing, you can’t just untangle yourself from it. Because Stallone, even more so than your average red hat wearing Nazi, has power and influence that is helping fuel Trump’s hateful agenda. That monster is trying to turn the nation’s capital into a police state just to get revenge on the fact that the Dustrict overwhelmingly voted for a Black woman and has a Black woman mayor. But here’s Stallone, about to be honored at the Kennedy Center (which Trump did a hostile takeover of just to deliberately screw the LGBTQ community among others) because Stallone is “not woke.” So yeah, Stallone doesn’t get to say he’s hot a racist or a homophobe or a transphobe or a misogynist. At the very least, he a big fan of a serial rapist. But then, he has his own allegations against him so it’s no surprise there.
 
At a certain point, tolerance of racism means you are racist.
 
Will it be Alan Ritchson or Henry Cavill and will it be on Prime? :o
 
Anyway.

This brings me to something I’ve been struggling with and it would be good to get different perspectives on it.

Is the original Rocky movie racist?

Look, Rocky is one of my favorite movies of all time. I’m not a big sports movie person but that one has meant a lot to me for my entire life. I’m originally from Pennsylvania and have a lot of ties to Philly. And I grew up watching that movie with my parents on the regular.

Yet now… when I look back at it, and knowing the type of person Stallone actually is, it makes me question his intentions with that movie. Because it’s a film made in 1976 (not the easiest times for Black Americans) about a white underdog who goes this distance against a rich and powerful Black athlete. It’s essentially about a mediocre white man challenging Black excellence.

Now, granted, Creed could have been any ethnicity and Rocky could have challenged him and it might not have mattered. But I don’t know. I think about it now and it bothers me. And it makes me side eye Stallone even further now that he’s distanced himself from Michael B. Jordan’s Creeed films (which are all pretty excellent and provide a really good insight into the Black experience). Just something I’ve been thinking about. I’m not saying I’m right or directly calling the movie racist but I question whether it might be.
I dont think so cause Apollo Creed was based on Muhammad Ali, as someone linked to what inspired Rocky. Stallone I wouldn't be shocked if he was racist given he is MAGA and all. But Rocky specifically, no. I don't think the movie is racist
 

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