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Rank the Alien and Predator movies

Predator
Aliens
Alien
Predator 2
Alien vs. Predator
Alien³
Alien Resurrection
Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem


Just came back from seeing Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem and it sure was a waste of time and money.
 
1. Aliens
2. Alien
3. Predator
(DISTANT) 4. Predator 2
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0. Alien 3, Alien Ressurection, AVP, AVP R
 
Dang. And I thought I had distaste for this movie...
 
Alien
Aliens
Alien: The Director's Cut

and even though I hate the last two in the series immensley now)
Alien 3 (2003 version)
Alien Ressurection
Alien 3 (Theatrical.)


Predator series:

Predator
Predator 2


Both the AVP films suck so they don't even make the list.
 
Predator
Predator 2
Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem
Alien
Aliens
AvP
Alien: Resurrection
Alien 3
 
My rankings:

1/ Alien 3 (Assembly Cut)

Gothic, dark, great acting, great dialogue, beautiful cinematography, all around great tone. An alien film SHOULD be nihilistic. Whilst it has it's flaws and is a little too dark for some, it's my personal favourite. I never wanted to see "Camerons Aliens: Part 2"- that wouldn't have been a good movie. I see Alien 3 as "Alien Part 2" really.

2/ Alien

It's a better crafted film than my first choice- it' a classic that will go down in history. An A-class B-movie, amazing concepts that started it all, and the Alien has never looked so good. Edgy for it's time. I personally put this second as the movie is such a slowburner it doesn't really have the rewatch value of the sequels.

3/ Aliens

Lots of people love this movie. It's accessible. It's fun. It's a rollercoaster ride. For my tastes it's just a little too light and some of the acting is pretty wooden- especially the first 30 minutes or so. It hasn't aged too well- what with the eighties hairstyles and minatures. Personally, I think Cameron took alot of liberties given the first movie- the "perfect organism"...strange and alien is pretty much reduced to a mindless bug, sort of detracting from the weirdness of the first one. Still, I don't have too much of a problem as I think Cameron was smart in making the sequel an action movie and not retreading the first one.

4/ Predator

An Arnold Schwarzenegger vehicle with a sci-fi twist. Commando goes sci-fi. Whilst it's fairly low-brow it boasts great OTT characterrs. Tight, well-written , a cool concept and Stan Winstons monster design makes this movie a cult classic- and it deserves to be.

5/ Alien 3 (theatrical)

Butchered to bits by the studio- pretty incoherent, but the visuals and mood remain largely intact. I can't help but wonder what Finchers Alien 3 would have been like if Fox had given him a reasonable length of time and money without interference. I think Fincher could have made a serious classic here. Shame.

6/ Predator 2

A seriously strange movie- but it's alot of fun. Early nineties excess abound- the movie may have just a tad too much blood and a tad too much coke...but it's hard not to like.

7/ AvP-R

Awful. Just awful. Non-existent, bland and cliched story, horrible concept, terrible acting and dialogue. I think the directors did a good job with what they had, but the script and budget were pretty much a guarantee that it was going to be abysmal. If anything I'm surprised it was just forgettably awful- in different hands it could have been alot worse. Credit does have to go to this movie for at least trying to restore the tone of the previous movies- it's consistent throughout. ADI have made some improvements over the first one with the creatures, but I still think the creature effects werent great. The Alien has never looked so rubbery. It's really not much, if anything, of an improvement over the first one.

8/AvP

Ambitious if somewhat childish concept. (I mean Predators as Gods, Pyramid on Ancient Earth on Aliens versus Predators itself) Great sets and scope but terrible acting/dialogue, horrible looking, bastardised predators and absolutely no sense of terror dread or emotion of any kind. I wonder what a better director could have done with Andersons idea? The thing that really destroyed this movie was the characters and PG-13 rating- a movie with Predators and Aliens should ALWAYS be a horror movie.

9/ Alien Resurrection

A serious misfire. This could have been a genuinely intruiging addition to the Alien series but the tone was far too comical, the story; wacky. The simple fact was that the studio chose an unsuitable director who didnt respect the material and neutered the "Ripley as an Alien" idea. It's a better film than AvP- but I dislike it far more due to an awkward tone and the fact that 3 great movies preceded it. Horrible.
 
Aliens
Predator
Alien
AvP: Requiem
Alien3
Predator 2
AvP
Alien Resurrection
 
Alien

Aliens and Alien 3 are tied with me for second.
Predator
Alien Resurrection (Saw it again, still goofy and kind of stupid but not nearly as bad as I remembered, maybe because now I've seen much much worse.)

which leads me to:

AVP
AVP - R

As I am more of an Alien movie fan I can't appreciate either at all, but the first I think is a lot better than Requiem which was just awful.

I've seen Predator 2 but not in years and don't remember it enough to rank it.
 
Aliens
Predator
Predator 2
Alien vs Predator Requiem
Alien
Aliens 3
Aliens Resurrection
AvP
 
I am mega PO'd that in AVP-R they tried to make the Predators be the creators of the Aliens. That botches up the Alien mythology so bad that it's inexcusable. And in Predator, I never pegged the Preds as being particularly proficient enough with technology that they could create something like the Xenomorphs. And whatever happened to the aliens that were carrying the Xenos on the ship in Alien? They sure didn't look like Predators to me.
 
The Predators are genuises, capable of all sorts of technological advancements and jumpstarting entire civilizations.
 
In the original Predator movie, that was hardly the impression that the creature left on me. It seemed to me that the Predators simply had access to lots of technology and knew how to use it, but the Predators always struck me as being more focused on athletics and mastery of their environment than creating new technology. The expectation for me would have been that the Predators use mostly "borrowed technology."
 
In the original Predator movie, that was hardly the impression that the creature left on me. It seemed to me that the Predators simply had access to lots of technology and knew how to use it, but the Predators always struck me as being more focused on athletics and mastery of their environment than creating new technology. The expectation for me would have been that the Predators use mostly "borrowed technology."

And what have you seen in any movie to contradict that thought? We don't have enough information to make any assumption yet.
 
I am mega PO'd that in AVP-R they tried to make the Predators be the creators of the Aliens. That botches up the Alien mythology so bad that it's inexcusable. And in Predator, I never pegged the Preds as being particularly proficient enough with technology that they could create something like the Xenomorphs. And whatever happened to the aliens that were carrying the Xenos on the ship in Alien? They sure didn't look like Predators to me.

where in the movie did it say the predators created the xenomorphs?
 
I haven't seen AVPR yet but someone told me that in it, they reveal the Predators as the creators of the Aliens. But then again maybe my friend was talking out his arse.
 
In the original Predator movie, that was hardly the impression that the creature left on me. It seemed to me that the Predators simply had access to lots of technology and knew how to use it, but the Predators always struck me as being more focused on athletics and mastery of their environment than creating new technology. The expectation for me would have been that the Predators use mostly "borrowed technology."

They didn't simpy "have access" to that highly advanced technology, they created it, and all we saw was a single Predator of an entire species, that film hardly showed us everything there was to know about them.
 
But therein lies the problem. The whole reason I think that the Predators are cool is because of the first movie, and if the entire species is remarkably different from the Pred in the first film, then that's kind of stupid. It'd be like if in the Star Wars prequels Obi-Wan Kenobi was the only Jedi who used a lightsaber instead of a blaster or something like that.
 
They're not remarkably different, the following films never contradicted anything established about the Predators in the first film.
 
Given how worn and beat up the Predator's technological bits looked, to me that sent the message that he knew just enough about the technology to barely maintain it.
 
In the original Predator movie, that was hardly the impression that the creature left on me. It seemed to me that the Predators simply had access to lots of technology and knew how to use it, but the Predators always struck me as being more focused on athletics and mastery of their environment than creating new technology. The expectation for me would have been that the Predators use mostly "borrowed technology."

I agree with this 100% I always thought the contrast between tribalistic/advanced technology was the best thing about the Predator. I always imagined that they'd invaded another planet or held another species captive; forcing them to build for their own race. ah well.
 
!. Aliens: The ultimate sci-fi movie!! Leaps and bounds above so many sci-fi movies today even though it's over 20 years old.
2. Predator: The movie for badasses!! A childhood favorite that's lost none of its power even though I've seen it over a dozen times.
3. Predator 2: An unbelievable underrated movie. I can understand if it's not as good as the first, but it's a damn good sequel and is still the only predator movie to feature those discs that still today aren't seen on the big screen. I just wish that Fox would get off its lazy ass and release the NC-17 cut of it already.
4. AVP-R: Now this is how you recover from craptacuality (I think I just made that up). This movie is everything the first wasn't. Some say it's a little too fast paced, but it's a helluva lot more entertaining than Paul Anderson's boring crap. Why the hell is he (and for the matter, Uwe Boll and Michael Bay) allowed to keep making movies. But Fox had to be a little B!tch and market this movie on Christmas in between nearly a dozen other movies. Let's just hope that the Unrated Dvd sells well, along with the International Gross, to warrant an AVP3 because the Brothers Strauss have earned my respect.
5. Alien: Now don't get me wrong. I'm sure this is a classic, but it's just...I never liked this movie. I really didn't. I'm sure that's blasphemy to a lot of you but I just never got into this movie. Not like the sequel. Ridely Scott is a great director (Kingdom of Heaven: The Director's Cut should have won Best Picture of the Year if the studio behind it wasn't an A$$hole and forced him to edit it down), but I just didn't like this movie.
6. Alien Resurrection: I'll admit, I actually liked this movie more than Alien. Then again, I'm partial to Ron Pearlman, and I liked alot about this movie. But what pushes this movie down is the last third of it. Seriously, what the F#ck!? I mean, that whole Human-Alien hybrid was totally unnecessary and pretty boring actually. But you could say that numbers 5 and 6 are interchangeable.
7. Alien 3: Now why would I rank a movie this low when it had great acting, a cool setting, and some killer music. Because it ruined Aliens!!!!!!!!:cmad: Seriously, even James Cameron complained about this movie. Aliens ended perfectly, everyone was gonna go home, and things were just dandy. But noooooooo, Fox had to be the Jackass that it is and warrant this abomination. They killed Hicks, the bastards!!!!!!!:cmad: I hate these sequel movies where they kill off the main character and that's a major reason why I liked Alien Resurrection as much as I do. At least it brought some justice back to Ripley, even if it was a little F#cked up.
8. AVP: Now this piece of monkey $h!t was completely unwarranted!:cmad: After more than a dozen years of waiting, tons of comic books, novels, novellas, and fan fiction, Fox decided to be The Little A$$hole that Could, again, and give Paul Anderson, among all the directors in the world, the rights to this franchise. Seriously, what were you thinking Fox!!? WHAT!!!!? My left nut could have crafted a better movie than what that a@@H0le gave us on screen. Even the best parts, the Alien and Predator scenes, felt sluggish and/or underused. How the f#ck do you do that in a movie about Aliens vs Predators:huh:. Thank God Fox you pulled your head out of your ass and gave us AVP-R, but you screwed up again with the marketing. Seriously, can't you do anything right for more than ten seconds anymore!!?:huh::cmad:
 
I haven't seen AVPR yet but someone told me that in it, they reveal the Predators as the creators of the Aliens. But then again maybe my friend was talking out his arse.
He is lying.......
 

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