Rate MAN OF STEEL......once and for all

[Rodrigo90]

In your opinion.

Zod in MOS was unlike any villain I've seen in a CBM before. Admittedly there are similarities in that the villain doesnt think they are but Zod truly cared about Krypton and Kryptonians.

It's pratically no different than Magneto caring more about Mutants and attempting to wipe all non-mutants off the planet in X2 for his species to reign dominance over the world.
At least in X1, he attempted something a little more savoury, when he tried turning all the world leaders into mutants.

Zod was just basically a monsterous grunt who accepted not one grain of thought for a peaceful coalition with mankind, because he simply didn't want to spend years adapting to Earth's enviorement...yet, he managed to adapt pretty well near the end, without anymore pain, so he totally contradicts his excuse.

But, to give it a little bit of grace...At least Zod DOES care more about his people than Magneto cared about his
"Let the pawns go first"

But that's down to Zod being born, bred and brainwashed into his line of thinking for his sole purpose of life. So he was essentially a robot, being programmed to care as much as he did. His passion was drilled into him, as was his love and respect for his heritage, as it was for every Kryptonian, that's why they were such determined and focused characters. And funnily enough, that's what led to their downfall, which is what Jor-El recognised before the end. Zod, like the rest of the Kryptonians and the planet itself, were victims because of their very way of being born into existence and how they were raised to be.
Vanity is what caused their deaths, like Zod.

And you know something? I have nothing bad to say about that, because it made for such very unique creatures

 

[michael1975]

It's pratically no different than Magneto caring more about Mutants and attempting to wipe all non-mutants off the planet in X2 for his species to reign dominance over the world.
At least in X1, he attempted something a little more savoury, when he tried turning all the world leaders into mutants.

Zod was just basically a monsterous grunt who accepted not one grain of thought for a peaceful coalition with mankind, because he simply didn't want to spend years adapting to Earth's enviorement...yet, he managed to adapt pretty well near the end, without anymore pain, so he totally contradicts his excuse.

But, to give it a little bit of grace...At least Zod DOES care more about his people than Magneto cared about his
"Let the pawns go first"

But that's down to Zod being born, bred and brainwashed into his line of thinking for his sole purpose of life. So he was essentially a robot, being programmed to care as much as he did. His passion was drilled into him, as was his love and respect for his heritage, as it was for every Kryptonian, that's why they were such determined and focused characters.

And you know something? I have nothing bad to say about that, because it made for such very unique creatures

The problem I had with Zod and this is not the fault of the actor but the fault of the writers is that he was a weak villain. Zod in the comic book is awesome. Not only was he cunning and ruthless and very strategic he was also a great fighter. While they showed some of these qualities in MOS they where weak and pathetic. What made it worse was his fighting skills. His fighting abilities where so weak it left me wondering how he remotely even made it to the rank of General.

Faora was what Zod should been. She talked a lot of crap but she backed it up. She showed control over her abilities at least far more then Zod did. She beat the snot out of Superman far more then Zod did. The way she just dismantled the military was awesome. Through the whole movie I keep saying why isn't Zod more like her.

Zod is probably one of my favorite Superman villains and they just completely dropped the ball on him. It said that he was a this great general that got his butt handed to him by Jor-El who wasn't a warrior but a scientist. I wish they had made him more like the character from the comics that would be truly epic.

 

[Rodrigo90]

The problem I had with Zod and this is not the fault of the actor but the fault of the writers is that he was a weak villain. Zod in the comic book is awesome. Not only was he cunning and ruthless and very strategic he was also a great fighter. While they showed some of these qualities in MOS they where weak and pathetic. What made it worse was his fighting skills. His fighting abilities where so weak it left me wondering how he remotely even made it to the rank of General.

Faora was what Zod should been. She talked a lot of crap but she backed it up. She showed control over her abilities at least far more then Zod did. She beat the snot out of Superman far more then Zod did. The way she just dismantled the military was awesome. Through the whole movie I keep saying why isn't Zod more like her.

Zod is probably one of my favorite Superman villains and they just completely dropped the ball on him. It said that he was a this great general that got his butt handed to him by Jor-El who wasn't a warrior but a scientist. I wish they had made him more like the character from the comics that would be truly epic.

I agree.
As much as I like the drive and motivation of Zod, I agree, you just wouldn't imagine him to be a General.
He's only that, because Krypton created him for that role.
Down to the writing and perhaps Shannon's performance, you wonder
"How can anybody follow this guy?"
The only answer is, because he's Krypton's General and his team were born to follow him. They had no choice in the lives that were made for them.

Faora was more efficient and fearsome.

 

[The Batman]

In your opinion.

Oh my god, I HAD NO IDEA. REALLY?

Childish comment?
Trolling?
Snide remarks?

Me?

Isn't it funny how to some MOS fans, acting like MOS isnt the greatest CBM of all time is equivalent to trolling?

Faora was what Zod should been. She talked a lot of crap but she backed it up. She showed control over her abilities at least far more then Zod did. She beat the snot out of Superman far more then Zod did. The way she just dismantled the military was awesome. Through the whole movie I keep saying why isn't Zod more like her.

Faora was by far the only truly memorable villain in this film. Definitely outshined Shannon's Zod.

 

[Predator jp]

yeah, Faora was so awesome. she was way better than every MCU villains.

 

[Rowsdower!]

I don't know, I find Faora a little overrated to be honest. She was cool, sure, but I scratch my head when people call her the "standout" or "the best thing in the movie." To me, Henry and Amy were the best things about the film, followed by Crowe.

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

The best thing is the music.

 

[Flint Marko]

I don't know, I find Faora a little overrated to be honest. She was cool, sure, but I scratch my head when people call her the "standout" or "the best thing in the movie." To me, Henry and Amy were the best things about the film, followed by Crowe.

I agree with your assessment on Faora. She didn't particularly stand out to me in anyway, yet some widely regard her as one of the best parts of the whole movie and important to the narrative as a whole.

 

[Boy Scout]

I agree.
As much as I like the drive and motivation of Zod, I agree, you just wouldn't imagine him to be a General.
He's only that, because Krypton created him for that role.
Down to the writing and perhaps Shannon's performance, you wonder
"How can anybody follow this guy?"
The only answer is, because he's Krypton's General and his team were born to follow him. They had no choice in the lives that were made for them.

Faora was more efficient and fearsome.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[BH/HHH]

Oh my god, I HAD NO IDEA. REALLY?



Isn't it funny how to some MOS fans, acting like MOS isnt the greatest CBM of all time is equivalent to trolling?



Faora was by far the only truly memorable villain in this film. Definitely outshined Shannon's Zod.

I don't have a problem with people not liking the film but he's been posting little snarky comments over and over. I find that a form of trolling. Really couldn't give a crap what he thinks, you think or anyone else. To me it's the best CBM of all time. It's my right to hold my own opinion and I will do so. I just feel he kept posting irrelevant piffy comments that hold no relation to the thread title. Infact it's things like this why I don't post here as often anymore, this place is sure full of childish negativity at times.

 

[The Batman]

Really couldn't give a crap what he thinks, you think or anyone else.

If that were actually true, you wouldn't need to post things like "In your opinion" anytime someone posts something you disagree with, cause its bleeding obvious that anything I say is my opinion. You also wouldn't be commenting on Rodrgo's "snarky" comments to begin with.

 

[Flint Marko]

Isn't it funny how to some MOS fans, acting like MOS isnt the greatest CBM of all time is equivalent to trolling?

That seems to be a recurring problem.

 

[Boy Scout]

Some of those fans are notorious for their indignant, condescending attitudes. For whatever reason, they're regarded as funny and charming.

 

[BH/HHH]

If that were actually true, you wouldn't need to post things like "In your opinion" anytime someone posts something you disagree with, cause its bleeding obvious that anything I say is my opinion. You also wouldn't be commenting on Rodrgo's "snarky" comments to begin with.

I really couldn't but that doesn't mean I'm not willing to discuss things, I'm just not arrogant enough to say things like they are fact like some people do round here.

I commented on snarky comments because they have nothing to do with the subject matter.

 

[BH/HHH]

Some of those fans are notorious for their indignant, condescending attitudes. For whatever reason, they're regarded as funny and charming.

Same as those that hate the movie and criticise every single little detail including stuff that holds no merit. It goes both ways.

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

The worst criticism of the movie I've heard is this:

"Clark Kent has a beard!"

I think it was on IMDB.

 

[The Batman]

I commented on snarky comments because they have nothing to do with the subject matter.

This thread is about MOS and our opinions of it. How do Rodrigo's snarky comments have nothing to do with MOS and the opinion on it?

 

[Boy Scout]

Same as those that hate the movie and criticise every single little detail including stuff that holds no merit. It goes both ways.

Sure, but that behavior is much more prominent amongst those who liked the movie.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Maybe now, but I would argue that (at least when the movie was first released) there was quite an influx of trolls on the MOS boards who acted like it was the worst movie ever made.

 

[kguillou]

I personally love engaging in friendly debates over people who didnt like the film or had problems with it. I do think there are alot of controversial decisions in this movie that are worth debating. I only scratch my head when i hear such incindiary remarks like "thia movie was an ABOMINATION" , "One of the worst superhero movies ever made," "this movie's a piece of ****!!!" And "I prefer Superman IV over this garbage" Like, when people act like this film is on the level of Elektra and Catwoman and Jonah Hex and Ghost Rider, I just cannot take that seriously and those comments seem to pop up pretty frequently regarding this film.

 

[BH/HHH]

Maybe now, but I would argue that (at least when the movie was first released) there was quite an influx of trolls on the MOS boards who acted like it was the worst movie ever made.

Agreed

This thread is about MOS and our opinions of it. How do Rodrigo's snarky comments have nothing to do with MOS and the opinion on it?

It's hardly discussion though posting odd little snarky comments here and there. Anyway I'm done with this now because it's derailed the thread.

 

[Rekall101]

Average

Looked amazing (as all Synder films do) but lacked in story or character development or subtly or intelligence. Plus I feel that was more like Ultraman than Superman. (please see DC history if you don't understand)

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

Ultraman? More like Marvelman/Miracleman.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Are fans making fake accounts and voting for "Excellent"
It's shot up over 30 (baffling) votes in under 24 hours
Perhaps my "snide comments" and "trolling" have brought out more defence for it?

And all that fits in with the context of this thread. My comments are expressing my distaste for certain elements of the film. Snide? Perhaps, but totally fitting.
And if you wish to discuss my little comments here and there, where I merely expressed that Ra's was a better villain than Zod, explaining otherwise why my opinion is incorrect, instead of getting upset about it, then please do. I'm not here to fight.

It's like EVERYTHING around here, if you express distaste for something, if you're a minority to the opinion, then you're a troll.

And if I was indeed trolling, then I shall refrain from doing so again in the future. But I'm not going to conform just because a larger majority idolise this thing.

 

[Boy Scout]

It is baffling to me how anyone can think MOS is an excellent movie. Good? Sure. Great? Eh. Maybe. But excellent? That escapes my comprehension. But that's just me, and everyone is entitled to their opinion.