Ratner Plans All-Black Ocean's Eleven...

[Bishop2]

Well, Moviehole isn't the source, and Eddie Murphy never said he had the rights to remake. All they'd have to do is pitch the idea to Warners (the studio that has the rights).

True on the latter I suppose. But Moviehole IS the source, if you read the actual article.

But I mean... c'mon. This doesn't have enough in common with the actual Ocean's 11 to need to be a remake. Why bother going through those hoops?

 

[Johnichi Chiba]

True on the latter I suppose. But Moviehole IS the source, if you read the actual article.

But I mean... c'mon. This doesn't have enough in common with the actual Ocean's 11 to need to be a remake. Why bother going through those hoops?

All it said is that moviehole is the website that interviewed him. NO movie website out there, no matter how unreliable they are, writes up fake interviews. Also remakes don't really have to have much in common with the original to be considered remakes. Take John Carpenter's The Thing, for example.

 

[cryptic name]

So it wouldn't LITERALLY be a remake of Ocean's 11, it would just be a movie in the same STYLE, with an all-black cast?

I gotta admit, if they really got a lineup of all those comedians... this could be funny as HELL. If you aren't getting it, then imagine Ocean's 11 starring Jim Carrey, Will Ferrell, Mike Meyers, Adam Sandler, Jack Black, Jason Lee... I think you get it now.

aside from that being pretty ignorant; "oh, you don't like it? you just don't know black comedians", the "white" cast you listed sounds horrible.

 

[Bishop2]

All it said is that moviehole is the website that interviewed him. NO movie website out there, no matter how unreliable they are, writes up fake interviews. Also remakes don't really have to have much in common with the original to be considered remakes. Take John Carpenter's The Thing, for example.

No, I'm not saying they faked the interviews... I'm saying that, you know, the statement that it's an "Ocean's 11 remake" is made up, because that's not said ANYWHERE in the interview quotes!

The Thing has a LOT more in common with the first film (and of course, even MORE with its original story "Who Goes There?") than this concept has in common with Ocean's 11.

 

[Matt]

This is going to be a disaster. Like Movies said, the Oceans movies weren't exactly great cinema...but they were stylish, witty, and for lack of better wording...cool. Ratner lacks any sense of style and his best notion of wit is Chris Tucker screaming like a moron. This is going to be horrible.

 

[Johnichi Chiba]

No, I'm not saying they faked the interviews... I'm saying that, you know, the statement that it's an "Ocean's 11 remake" is made up, because that's not said ANYWHERE in the interview quotes!

The Thing has a LOT more in common with the first film (and of course, even MORE with its original story "Who Goes There?") than this concept has in common with Ocean's 11.

You're right about the interview, but there's no sure way of telling whether or not they pulled the "Ocean's 11 remake" thing out of their asses.

I used The Thing as an example, and yeah it might not be the best example, but there's other examples out there. Like the recent news of Warner Bros. planning to remake Enter the Dragon as a film noir. Remakes don't have to be similar to their original counterparts.

 

[Catman]

Ocean 11 was cool(at least the remake) due to it's style, Ratner has no style, he's a gun for hire...

Ratner lacks any sense of style

All you need is to team him up with someone who knows what they're doing. Example, the cinematography by Dante Spinotti in After the Sunset was beautiful. The movie was crap, but you can't deny the cinematography was great.

 

[Erzengel]

All you need is to team him up with someone who knows what they're doing. Example, the cinematography by Dante Spinotti in After the Sunset was beautiful. The movie was crap, but you can't deny the cinematography was great.

So the Black Ocean's 11 would have great cinematography but it still would be crap?

 

[Bishop2]

So the Black Ocean's 11 would have great cinematography but it still would be crap?

Depends on who wrote the script. Ratner isn't a writer.

 

[Erzengel]

He's not much of a director either.

 

[Poeman]

oh no that means no don cheadle?

im pretty sure hes black

 

[Catman]

So the Black Ocean's 11 would have great cinematography but it still would be crap?

I guess.

Depends on who wrote the script. Ratner isn't a writer.

The screenwriter is important as well. Red Dragon, for example, was a pretty good movie.

 

[Bishop2]

He's not much of a director either.

I don't mind him. He's solid but unmemorable. He doesn't leave much of an impression, but sometimes that's a good thing. I COMPLETELY AGREE with everything he's said about directing action sequences - pull the camera back and the let the audience truly see the action. Let the action carry itself. If you notice the camera wobbling around in a desperate attempt to convince you that this is somehow more exciting, the director ****ed up.

 

[Erzengel]

Red Dragon is the only movie in his resume that I think is good.

Other than that he has what?

4 Chris Tucker movies? Rush Hours 1-3, and Money Talks?

The Family Man and After the Sunset?

And the worst X-Men movie?

 

[Bishop2]

Red Dragon is the only movie in his resume that I think is good.

Other than that he has what?

4 Chris Tucker movies? Rush Hours 1-3, and Money Talks?

The Family Man and After the Sunset?

And the worst X-Men movie?

I don't think any of the problems with X-Men: TLS are his fault. He came in at the last second and just worked as a hired hand. The direction is fine. The script is where all the problems lay, and he didn't have crap to do with that. It was done when he got there.

I haven't seen the last Rush Hour, but the first two were amusing. More for Jackie Chan than Chris Tucker, but the two play off of each other well. They're not the kind of thing anyone really thinks about after watching, but they're entertaining as you watch at least.

I dunno. What is there to hate about this guy? Is he even so memorable to deserve it? It's like hating toast.

 

[xwolverine2]

Red Dragon is the only movie in his resume that I think is good.

Other than that he has what?

4 Chris Tucker movies? Rush Hours 1-3, and Money Talks?

The Family Man and After the Sunset?

And the worst X-Men movie?

i enjoyed 6 out of 7 of those... so yeah imo he's a pretty darn good director.

 

[Catman]

Red Dragon is the only movie in his resume that I think is good.

Cause he had Ted Tally writing the screenplay.

 

[Erzengel]

I don't think any of the problems with X-Men: TLS are his fault. He came in at the last second and just worked as a hired hand. The direction is fine. The script is where all the problems lay, and he didn't have crap to do with that. It was done when he got there.

So unlike other directors who change the script, he was essentially just a monkey behind the camera?

I haven't seen the last Rush Hour, but the first two were amusing. More for Jackie Chan than Chris Tucker, but the two play off of each other well. They're not the kind of thing anyone really thinks about after watching, but they're entertaining as you watch at least.

Think of it as more as a fluff action movies?

I dunno. What is there to hate about this guy? Is he even so memorable to deserve it? It's like hating toast.

You're right he's not memorable. He's not as bad as a Uwe Boll or a Paul W. Anderson. But, it's almost like he does fluff pieces with no substance or style.

 

[Bishop2]

So unlike other directors who change the script, he was essentially just a monkey behind the camera?

That's what Fox was forcing the director on this movie to be. They demanded that filming start at a specific time, and that the movie be finished in time for next May. They were more interested in making a release date than a movie. That's why Matthew Vaughn walked off the film - there wasn't any time for him to change anything. Once Ratner got on the film, there was even less time. He had time to sit behind a camera, point it where it needs to go and yell "Action!" and little else. Blame Fox, but this is how they roll pretty much as a standard operating procedure. They'd rather make a release date than a good film.

 

[Erzengel]

I would have respected Ratner more if he walked.

 

[rdh007]

Red Dragon is the only movie in his resume that I think is good.

Other than that he has what?

4 Chris Tucker movies? Rush Hours 1-3, and Money Talks?

The Family Man and After the Sunset?

And the worst X-Men movie?

Never saw Red Dragon or After The Sunset, though both looked okay.

None of the rest was good, let alone average. Ratner makes okay movies, the cast would be pretty good, I'll not declare this a disaster yet; but it's moving in on one.

 

[That-Guy]

Everytime I hear about a new movie Brett Ratner is making, I fall on my knees and thank God he never got his hands on Superman.

Say what you want about Superman Returns... it was a very, very flawed film, but Ratner's film would have been much, much worse.

 

[Catman]

Everytime I hear about a new movie Brett Ratner is making, I fall on my knees and thank God he never got his hands on Superman.

Say what you want about Superman Returns... it was a very, very flawed film, but Ratner's film would have been much, much worse.

True, but he would have been better than McG.

 

[Spidey Lover 10]

Why Does Everyone Here Hate Brett Ratner?! He's Not As Bad As Uwe Boll, So Why Does Everyone Hate Him!!!! Can Someone Plz Explain?! LEAVE RATNER ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Mr. Socko]

This is actually a good concept. Janitors in New York set out to rob Trump Towers. If it were serious with a bit of wit and humor it could come off good, like the first Ocean's film. However, Ratter and his pack are at the helm so this will probably suck. Watch he makes this just another stereotypical black film.