Rise of the Silver Surfer Re: Fantastic Four: The Next Chapter (2nd movie subtitle?)

[Carp Man]

That's not an opinion,it's a factless proclamation based on a complete ignorance of the subject which you are spouting off about

Beautiful thing about freedom of speech isn't it ? Factless proclamation ? Perhaps, but it is my opinion. And since FF is out of the way, my factless proclamation will never be proven right or wroung. I throw things out there. Doesn't have to be logical, or make sense. Opinion useually isn't.

 

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

The 1994 FF movie kicks ass...

 

[Hunter Rider]

Beautiful thing about freedom of speech isn't it ? Factless proclamation ? Perhaps, but it is my opinion. And since FF is out of the way, my factless proclamation will never be proven right or wroung. I throw things out there. Doesn't have to be logical, or make sense. Opinion useually isn't.

Speak for yourself,most of us like not to look like fools and actually care to have some knowledge of what we are talking about
You say freedom of speach ? in this case is a bad thing,because speach without intelligence is a dangerous thing

 

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

It is.

 

[Carp Man]

The 1994 FF movie kicks ass...

That's your opinion and that's ok. Mabey you did like it, mabey your being sarcastic. It was a joke. It was like watching a Tenage Muntant Ninja Turtle movie. The special effects were pathetic. However with that being said. With 1 to 1 and a half million, Corman did the best he could. And it did try to remain as faithful as it could to the original. For that I give Corman As a whole the movie was

 

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

The story and overall tryness was a lot better than the remake. Roger Corman is a god btw

But storywise, it's better than FF 05, effects wise...goes to FF05

 

[Carp Man]

in this case is a bad thing,because speach without intelligence is a dangerous thing

Ah, but that is what this country was founded on. What makes it great. The free expression of ideas, and thoughts. Weather your a KKK member, or a skin head, or if you hate the President, you have a right to express those thoughts, without fear of the secret police comming in the middle of the night to haul you away, because you had the nerve to speak against the leader. That's what we're fighting for in Iraq. And this an ex military man speaking, who supports our action in Iraq. Who supports the President. I say to all who don't like this country. Noones twisting your arm or holding a gun to your head to stay here. Leave if you don't like our freedoms. I am not politcly correct.

 

[antariksh]

Hey guys i just realised that a LOT of BIG movies that won't come until 2007 have already released the TEASER trailer and websites except Fantastic four 2.

1) Ghost rider TEASER out already coming february 13th 2007
2) Spider-man 3 teaser site trailer will be attached with superman returns OR talladega nights. SM 3 coming May 4th 2007
3) Transformers TEASER coming in 25 days. Will probably be attached with POTC 2. TF Coming on July 4th 2007

FOX should have released a TEASER for F4-2 by now but the problem is that they haven't even started shooting. ALL of the movies that are meant to be EVENT movies for 2007 have already started shooting.

FOX better make an AWESOME F4 sequel and don't rush it like the first F4 and the TEASER trailer better be EPIC with good music and SFX and action.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Ah, but that is what this country was founded on. What makes it great. The free expression of ideas, and thoughts. Weather your a KKK member, or a skin head,.

This may be the stupidest thing you've said,somehow equating freedom of speach as good thing where the KKK are concerned

 

[Carp Man]

This may be the stupidest thing you've said,somehow equating freedom of speach as good thing where the KKK are concerned

Just because you don't agree with their speach, does not dimminish their right to speak. You are for censurship. I don't agree with them, or skin heads, but I will defend their right to speak and be heard. The 1st amendment is primary. Without the 1st amendment we live in Sadam's Iraq.

 

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Hey guys i just realised that a LOT of BIG movies that won't come until 2007 have already released the TEASER trailer and websites except Fantastic four 2.

1) Ghost rider TEASER out already coming february 13th 2007
2) Spider-man 3 teaser site trailer will be attached with superman returns OR talladega nights. SM 3 coming May 4th 2007
3) Transformers TEASER coming in 25 days. Will probably be attached with POTC 2. TF Coming on July 4th 2007

FOX should have released a TEASER for F4-2 by now but the problem is that they haven't even started shooting. ALL of the movies that are meant to be EVENT movies for 2007 have already started shooting.

FOX better make an AWESOME F4 sequel and don't rush it like the first F4 and the TEASER trailer better be EPIC with good music and SFX and action.

True dat

 

[Hunter Rider]

Just because you don't agree with their speach, does not dimminish their right to speak. You are for censurship. I don't agree with them, or skin heads, but I will defend their right to speak and be heard.

People who use the freedom of speach to genrate and spread hate of other races and encourage harm be done towards those races forgo their right for free speach IMO

 

[Carp Man]

Like Lee Greenwood sang so beautifully.

And I'm proud to be an American where at least I know I'm free. And I won't forget the men who died, who gave that right to me, and I gladly stand up next to you, and defend her still toady. Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land. GOD BLESS THE U.S.A.

Love it or leave it.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Like Lee Greenwood sang so beautifully.

And I'm proud to be an American where at least I know I'm free. And I won't forget the men who died, who gave that right to me, and I gladly stand up next to you, and defend her still toady. Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land. GOD BLESS THE U.S.A.

Love it or leave it.

Way to try and hide the stupidity of what you said behind some sickening jingoistic nonsense

 

[Carp Man]

People who use the freedom of speach to genrate and spread hate of other races and encourage harm be done towards those races forgo their right for free speach IMO

You want censorship ? Go to anoyther country. We live in the United States. We speak english here, and EVERYONE has the right to be heard. Wether you agree or not is irrelevent.

 

[Hunter Rider]

You want censorship ? Go to anoyther country. We live in the United States. We speak english here, and EVERYONE has the right to be heard. Wether you agree or not is irrelevent.

That is moronic,you don't give people freedom to preach hate,god just grow a brain

 

[Carp Man]

That is moronic,you don't give people freedom to preach hate,god just grow a brain

FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Is that a hard concept for you to grasp ? The 1st amendment does not specify what speach is free. ALL speech is free. Every american reguardless of their point of view is free to speak in THIS country. Go make your own country, and you can restrict speech as much as you want. But we live in the U.S.A

 

[Hunter Rider]

FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Is that a hard concept for you to grasp ? The 1st amendment does not specify what speach is free. ALL speech is free. Every american reguardless of their point of view is free to speak in THIS country.

Are you dumb you're trying to tell me it's ok for ppl to preach about murdering and hating other ethnicitiees yet at the same time you are full of this "love it or leave it" BS which means those that don't like the way the country is being run should not be allowed freedom of speach ?
you are to stupid to engage in this conversation,stick to F4
it's when ppl like you take everything as literal that ppl die
Freedom of speach isn't a blanket privelage to use it to hurt other ppl

 

[Carp Man]

Are you dumb you're trying to tell me it's ok for ppl to preach about murdering and hating other ethnicitiees yet at the same time you are full of this "love it or leave it" BS which means those that don't like the way the country is being run should not be allowed freedom of speach ?
you are to stupid to engage in this conversation,stick to F4
it's when ppl like you take everything as literal that ppl die
Freedom of speach isn't a blanket privelage to use it to hurt other ppl

What this country is all about. The Supreme Court has upheld groups rights to speak. I don't agree with it, I wish we could all live in peace, I wish they would shut up. No I personaly do not believe it is good, but they have a right to speak, and I would die to defend their right to speak.

 

[Hunter Rider]

What this country is all about. The Supreme Court has upheld groups rights to speak. I don't agree with it, I wish we could all live in peace, I wish they would shut up. No I personaly do not believe it is good, but they have a right to speak.

That was my point,they may have the right but it's not a good thing and shouldn't be used as an argument for why free speach is a good thing b/c it negates the good that law was invented for by evil ppl manipulating it to get their hate agenda out there

 

[Carp Man]

That was my point,they may have the right but it's not a good thing and shouldn't be used as an argument for why free speach is a good thing b/c it negates the good that law was invented for by evil ppl manipulating it to get their hate agenda out there

No mabey about it. They do have the right. It is not good, it is not usefull, it does no good, but they have a right to say it, and that is my point. And the highest court in the land also says they have the right, wether you and I agree with it or not.

 

[Hunter Rider]

No mabey about it. They do have the right. It is not good, it is not usefull, it does no good, but they have a right to say it, and that is my point. And the highest court in the land also says they have the right.

Your point was that freedom of speach was a good thing,then you listed their right to speak which actually makes freedom of speach a bad thing because it is abused to the point of making a mockery of what it was intended for

 

[Carp Man]

Your point was that freedom of speach was a good thing,then you listed their right to speak which actually makes freedom of speach a bad thing because it is abused to the point of making a mockery of what it was intended for

I agree, people abuse it. Just like they abuse freedom of religion, or the right to bear arms. But it is still all good, and what makes this country great. And unlike you, I wouldn't have it any other way.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I agree, people abuse it. Just like they abuse freedom of religion, or the right to bear arms. But it is still all good, and what makes this country great.

I disagree,it isn't all good,i like a lot about America's attitudes to things but i think they need to set some better rules around this use of freedom because there is a fine line there between freedom and anarchy

 

[Carp Man]

I disagree,it isn't all good,i like a lot about America's attitudes to things but i think they need to set some better rules around this use of freedom because there is a fine line there between freedom and anarchy

Then we agree to disagree.