Re-Writing the Star Wars Prequels....

[Pythagoras]

george lucas's prequels were a waste of time.
nothing interesting in them, and they were just a showcase for his ILM teams.

He should have done a sequel to ROTJ instead, come up with a new villian after Darth Vader.

But instead, we keep getting prequels! clone wars!
what next!
how darth vader got his first girlfriend?

Yeah I would of loved to see 3 movies of after the events of RTOTJ instead of 3 orgin movies. Cause they were waste of movies.

 

[8wid]

The fragmentation of the Empire is something that was missed. Plus, the main goal of a sequel series of films could have been motivated by Luke and Leia's pursuit for the identity of their mother. Someone searching for Darth Vader's secrets could have really manipulated this information.

 

[kang604]

just throwing ideas around.

EP1: Anakin is around 16-17 years old. Qui-Gonn & Obi-Wan discover him and free him within the first 45 minutes of the movie. Pod race sequence could still be in the movie but make it less childish. Anakin is shown as an extremely gifted but volatile young man, passionate but wreckless. They take him back to Coruscant where by some design he meets Padme who is serving as Senator for Naboo. He instantly falls in love with her, but their romance does not develop quite yet. Qui-Gonn is denied permission to train Anakin by the council based on his age, but proceeds to train Anakin regardless. What follows for the next 30 minutes or so of the movie is a series of scenes of Anakin training as a Padawan, focusing on his development as a jedi and as a man. Potential for great action sequences and good character development. Initially Obi-Wan is hostile towards Anakin, which would set up a nice scene with young Anakin and Obi-Wan in a fist fight or something. Throughout this part of the movie, Qui-Gonn would be training Anakin, giving him Jedi wisdom ala Yoda in ESB. Good opportunity for some great quotes. While the main focus would be on Anakin's training, the backstory would be the impending threat of the Clone Wars and the return of the Sith. The third act of the movie would culminate in the start of the Clone Wars, and have Anakin put in a situation where he is required to use the training he has learned to either save someone or do something heroic, i would say for the sake of the romance side of the story, have it be him having to save padme while darth maul attacks qui-gonn and obi-wan, but have him have to kill someone along the way to do it, tempting the dark side.
the movie would end with the Clone Wars in full gear, kinda like the way AOTC ended. Darth Maul lives, killing Qui-Gonn then getting defeated by Obi-Wan but surviving. The council, seeing that Anakin is fit to be a Jedi, allow Obi-Wan to take him as his Padawan learner.

EP2: The Clone Wars. Anakin is 20-22 years old. Focus is still on Anakin, and this movie will have crazy action sequences. Show Anakin doing amazing Jedi **** with Obi-Wan, establish why they are legendary Jedi. Some awesome pilot sequences, lightsaber battles, etc. On the romance side of things, have Anakin and Padme get together in the first 30 minutes of the film and then show all the troubles and obstacles they must face to keep their love secret and alive for the rest of the movie. Develop the relationship btwn Palpatine and Anakin as well. The final battle of the movie would have Obi-Wan in a rematch with Darth Maul and Anakin killing Count Dooku.

EP3: The third movie would be similar to ROTS, with the focus being on Anakin's fall to the dark side. Palpatine manipulates Anakin into becoming Darth Vader, but it would not be as sudden as in ROTS. Rather the progression would take time, over the course of the first 1 1/2 of the movie. The tipping point would be when Mace Windu realizes Anakin is falling to the dark side he tries to arrest him. They fight and Anakin kills him, cementing his descent. Yoda vs Palpatine, Anakin vs ObiWan. Donedees.

 

[Cuyan]

I always thought that Padme should have been betrothed and have Anakin be the affair.

 

[Jordacar]

If you gotta have the podrace, it would be possible to make that Anakin's introduction. Like ObiWan is on the planet watching the podrace (for plot reasons or whatever) and this teenage kid wins, and Obi Wan gets to know the kid afterward.

I bet there would even be a way to start with the podrace. Just open the movie right in the middle of the race, flesh out a more interesting story from there.

 

[Octoberist]

The way they did the podrace felt sloppy. Instead of having an exciting scene that also advances the story, it felt like the entire just completely stops for this one scene. It wasn't that exciting then and it's not that exciting now.

I'm sure they could have done a better job leading up to it, for sure.

 

[8wid]

just throwing ideas around.

EP1: Anakin is around 16-17 years old. Qui-Gonn & Obi-Wan discover him and free him within the first 45 minutes of the movie. Pod race sequence could still be in the movie but make it less childish. Anakin is shown as an extremely gifted but volatile young man, passionate but wreckless. They take him back to Coruscant where by some design he meets Padme who is serving as Senator for Naboo. He instantly falls in love with her, but their romance does not develop quite yet. Qui-Gonn is denied permission to train Anakin by the council based on his age, but proceeds to train Anakin regardless. What follows for the next 30 minutes or so of the movie is a series of scenes of Anakin training as a Padawan, focusing on his development as a jedi and as a man. Potential for great action sequences and good character development. Initially Obi-Wan is hostile towards Anakin, which would set up a nice scene with young Anakin and Obi-Wan in a fist fight or something. Throughout this part of the movie, Qui-Gonn would be training Anakin, giving him Jedi wisdom ala Yoda in ESB. Good opportunity for some great quotes. While the main focus would be on Anakin's training, the backstory would be the impending threat of the Clone Wars and the return of the Sith. The third act of the movie would culminate in the start of the Clone Wars, and have Anakin put in a situation where he is required to use the training he has learned to either save someone or do something heroic, i would say for the sake of the romance side of the story, have it be him having to save padme while darth maul attacks qui-gonn and obi-wan, but have him have to kill someone along the way to do it, tempting the dark side.
the movie would end with the Clone Wars in full gear, kinda like the way AOTC ended. Darth Maul lives, killing Qui-Gonn then getting defeated by Obi-Wan but surviving. The council, seeing that Anakin is fit to be a Jedi, allow Obi-Wan to take him as his Padawan learner.

EP2: The Clone Wars. Anakin is 20-22 years old. Focus is still on Anakin, and this movie will have crazy action sequences. Show Anakin doing amazing Jedi **** with Obi-Wan, establish why they are legendary Jedi. Some awesome pilot sequences, lightsaber battles, etc. On the romance side of things, have Anakin and Padme get together in the first 30 minutes of the film and then show all the troubles and obstacles they must face to keep their love secret and alive for the rest of the movie. Develop the relationship btwn Palpatine and Anakin as well. The final battle of the movie would have Obi-Wan in a rematch with Darth Maul and Anakin killing Count Dooku.

EP3: The third movie would be similar to ROTS, with the focus being on Anakin's fall to the dark side. Palpatine manipulates Anakin into becoming Darth Vader, but it would not be as sudden as in ROTS. Rather the progression would take time, over the course of the first 1 1/2 of the movie. The tipping point would be when Mace Windu realizes Anakin is falling to the dark side he tries to arrest him. They fight and Anakin kills him, cementing his descent. Yoda vs Palpatine, Anakin vs ObiWan. Donedees.

There is some strength in this if you wanted to use some of the existing element. Although Yoda was supposed to have instructed Obi-Wan, and Qui-Gon is also an unneeded character. Anakin becomes Vader in order to obtain power as well. Though that's just my vision.

 

[Kurosawa]

There is some strength in this if you wanted to use some of the existing element. Although Yoda was supposed to have instructed Obi-Wan, and Qui-Gon is also an unneeded character. Anakin becomes Vader in order to obtain power as well. Though that's just my vision.

Although I do understand how some people found the idea of Qui-Gon being Obi-Wan's master with Yoda being the Jedi who all Jedi begin their training under confusing, he is still a vital character. It was Qui-Gon who had the more correct philosophies of training Jedi and of the force that the other Jedi missed. Obviously if Yoda and Obi-Wan had the same philosophies in the PT that they had in the OT then Anakin's turn may have been prevented. But they didn't, and it was Qui-Gon's beliefs about focusing on the present and not the future that they clearly adopted in the wake of their failures with Anakin. His death was vital for Anakin's turn and it may well be that Palpatine gladly sacrificed Maul in order to get Qui-Gon out of the picture. It was also Qui-Gon who discovered the secret of becoming a Force Ghost.

 

[I'm Old Greg]

just throwing ideas around.

EP1: Anakin is around 16-17 years old. Qui-Gonn & Obi-Wan discover him and free him within the first 45 minutes of the movie. Pod race sequence could still be in the movie but make it less childish. Anakin is shown as an extremely gifted but volatile young man, passionate but wreckless. They take him back to Coruscant where by some design he meets Padme who is serving as Senator for Naboo. He instantly falls in love with her, but their romance does not develop quite yet. Qui-Gonn is denied permission to train Anakin by the council based on his age, but proceeds to train Anakin regardless. What follows for the next 30 minutes or so of the movie is a series of scenes of Anakin training as a Padawan, focusing on his development as a jedi and as a man. Potential for great action sequences and good character development. Initially Obi-Wan is hostile towards Anakin, which would set up a nice scene with young Anakin and Obi-Wan in a fist fight or something. Throughout this part of the movie, Qui-Gonn would be training Anakin, giving him Jedi wisdom ala Yoda in ESB. Good opportunity for some great quotes. While the main focus would be on Anakin's training, the backstory would be the impending threat of the Clone Wars and the return of the Sith. The third act of the movie would culminate in the start of the Clone Wars, and have Anakin put in a situation where he is required to use the training he has learned to either save someone or do something heroic, i would say for the sake of the romance side of the story, have it be him having to save padme while darth maul attacks qui-gonn and obi-wan, but have him have to kill someone along the way to do it, tempting the dark side.
the movie would end with the Clone Wars in full gear, kinda like the way AOTC ended. Darth Maul lives, killing Qui-Gonn then getting defeated by Obi-Wan but surviving. The council, seeing that Anakin is fit to be a Jedi, allow Obi-Wan to take him as his Padawan learner.

EP2: The Clone Wars. Anakin is 20-22 years old. Focus is still on Anakin, and this movie will have crazy action sequences. Show Anakin doing amazing Jedi **** with Obi-Wan, establish why they are legendary Jedi. Some awesome pilot sequences, lightsaber battles, etc. On the romance side of things, have Anakin and Padme get together in the first 30 minutes of the film and then show all the troubles and obstacles they must face to keep their love secret and alive for the rest of the movie. Develop the relationship btwn Palpatine and Anakin as well. The final battle of the movie would have Obi-Wan in a rematch with Darth Maul and Anakin killing Count Dooku.

EP3: The third movie would be similar to ROTS, with the focus being on Anakin's fall to the dark side. Palpatine manipulates Anakin into becoming Darth Vader, but it would not be as sudden as in ROTS. Rather the progression would take time, over the course of the first 1 1/2 of the movie. The tipping point would be when Mace Windu realizes Anakin is falling to the dark side he tries to arrest him. They fight and Anakin kills him, cementing his descent. Yoda vs Palpatine, Anakin vs ObiWan. Donedees.

i would have been happy with this

 

[ross2287]

If you gotta have the podrace, it would be possible to make that Anakin's introduction. Like ObiWan is on the planet watching the podrace (for plot reasons or whatever) and this teenage kid wins, and Obi Wan gets to know the kid afterward.

I bet there would even be a way to start with the podrace. Just open the movie right in the middle of the race, flesh out a more interesting story from there.

You just blew my mind right there. I'm picturing it. The opening crawl fading into the stars. Pan down to the planet. Zoom in with the sounds of the engine getting louder as we get closer to the planet.

It could have been cool.

 

[DawnWarrior]

Although I do understand how some people found the idea of Qui-Gon being Obi-Wan's master with Yoda being the Jedi who all Jedi begin their training under confusing, he is still a vital character. It was Qui-Gon who had the more correct philosophies of training Jedi and of the force that the other Jedi missed. Obviously if Yoda and Obi-Wan had the same philosophies in the PT that they had in the OT then Anakin's turn may have been prevented. But they didn't, and it was Qui-Gon's beliefs about focusing on the present and not the future that they clearly adopted in the wake of their failures with Anakin. His death was vital for Anakin's turn and it may well be that Palpatine gladly sacrificed Maul in order to get Qui-Gon out of the picture. It was also Qui-Gon who discovered the secret of becoming a Force Ghost.

I'm not following you on that. As far as I could tell, if Obi-Wan and Yoda had followed their initial instincts about Anakin and refused to train him, then he never would have become Darth Vader. And this business of Qui-Gon discovering the Force Ghost thing wasn't in the movies, so I take it your drawing on the expanded media. Within the confines of the movies, Qui-Gon's character has problems.

 

[Jordacar]

I'm not following you on that. As far as I could tell, if Obi-Wan and Yoda had followed their initial instincts about Anakin and refused to train him, then he never would have become Darth Vader. And this business of Qui-Gon discovering the Force Ghost thing wasn't in the movies, so I take it your drawing on the expanded media. Within the confines of the movies, Qui-Gon's character has problems.

Yeah it was, at the end of EpIII when it was too late to matter.

 

[Cuyan]

It is in the Revenge of the Sith Novel, Yoda talks to Obi-Wan about "additional training" for him on Tatooine. He goes on to reveal that this "training" was given to him by Obi-Wan's former master, Qui-Gon.

 

[AlexRoss]

Basically, Qui Gon should not have existed, and Obi Wan should have been a mixture of the two characters. A wise yet unconventional Jedi, old enough to be a mentor to Anakin but young enough to be a friend.

Anakin should have started out older, maybe late teens, and he should have been a Han Solo character. And for those who say Han wouldnt be serious enough to become a Jedi, you can be dedicated to a proposition and still make quips (Spider-man).

Padme should have been something, anything, which would have been more than what she was in the films.

 

[Bim]

Basically, Qui Gon should not have existed, and Obi Wan should have been a mixture of the two characters. A wise yet unconventional Jedi, old enough to be a mentor to Anakin but young enough to be a friend.

Anakin should have started out older, maybe late teens, and he should have been a Han Solo character. And for those who say Han wouldnt be serious enough to become a Jedi, you can be dedicated to a proposition and still make quips (Spider-man).

Padme should have been something, anything, which would have been more than what she was in the films.

Have to agree. About Padme, i wish they wouldnt have taken out the Rebellion scenes from ROTS, cause at least we see her doing something else. She was vital in the creation of it, and i think that resonates rather well with Leia's involvement when we catch up with her in ANH. She was following in her mother's footsteps

 

[Kurosawa]

I'm not following you on that. As far as I could tell, if Obi-Wan and Yoda had followed their initial instincts about Anakin and refused to train him, then he never would have become Darth Vader. And this business of Qui-Gon discovering the Force Ghost thing wasn't in the movies, so I take it your drawing on the expanded media. Within the confines of the movies, Qui-Gon's character has problems.

Yoda revealed in ROTS that Qui-Gon had discovered the secret of the Force Ghost. And if you actually pay close attention to his comments and philosophy in TPM, then you see how it is the same beliefs that Obi-Wan and especially Yoda believe in in the OT. It's especially important to note the opening conversation between Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon in TPM and balance that with Yoda's comments about how he had watched Luke in ESB. It all ties together. Of course not training Anakin would have avoided the issue, but that's a moot point. The main thing is that Yoda and most of the Jedi had flaws in their philosophy in the time of the PT and Qui-Gon's beliefs were closer to what Yoda and Obi-Wan adopted in light of Anakin's fall. So yes, he was a vital character although I do understand how him being Obi-Wan's master might be confusing to some people.

Maul doesn't kill Qui-Gon=better chance Anakin doesn't turn. Sidious could not accept that, and that's why he needed him dead asap and was willing to sacrifice Maul to get it done. Sidious spends the entire saga trying to kill or killing the people Anakin cared the most about: Qui-Gon, Padme, Obi-Wan, Luke and I'd bet he had a hand in Shmi's death. I bet whatever ends up happening to Ahsoka will be his doing as well.

 

[The Homer]

George's problem was writing and directing them. He should have pulled an Indiana Jones and been a creative producer. He's a man of vision, but he isn't good writing or directing compelling human behavior. It's done now, but he should have let go. Series like the clone wars animated series (by gendy dexters lab) show that even the stodgy universe he created can be exciting if handled by someone who can make drama. He can create worlds, but he cant create drama.

 

[SchumacherFan]

She would make a good Padme Amidala if you're going with a wholesome innocent Queen.

 

[Jordacar]

Portman was fine, she just got nothing to work with as an actor.

 

[Cuyan]

You can actually see the pain in McGregor and Portman's face when they deliver their lines in Attack of the Clones.

 

[kang604]

james franco as anakin skywalker?

maybe hes a bit short physically but i think he would handle the characterization real well.

 

[marvelman2006]

james franco as anakin skywalker?

maybe hes a bit short physically but i think he would handle the characterization real well.

I thought of franco too, I would like to know who lucas and co pursued around this time for the part. I picture alot of actors handling anakin better then hayden did. Hayden just didnt have the ability to portray what anakin was going through.

 

[DawnWarrior]

^I still feel like the casting wasn't the issue with Hayden any more than it was with Natalie, but rather Lucas's writing and directing was the problem.

 

[marvelman2006]

^I still feel like the casting wasn't the issue with Hayden any more than it was with Natalie, but rather Lucas's writing and directing was the problem.

yeah we can blame george for natalies bad acting but hayden is hayden.

 

[Kurosawa]

james franco as anakin skywalker?

maybe hes a bit short physically but i think he would handle the characterization real well.

I like Franco but he doesn't really feel right for Anakin to me...he doesn't remind me of Mark Hamill. Neither does Hayden.

yeah we can blame george for natalies bad acting but hayden is hayden.

Harrison Ford on the ANH set: "You can type this stuff, George, but you can't say it."

Actors have disliked Lucas' dialogue since the beginning. The difference is some actors like Ewan just make the best of it, others like Natalie can't handle it. Hayden is just too limited to do much with it, although a lot of his physical acting was good and he did well in the fight scenes. I don't think Natalie really had any interest in her part...she had never even seen the OT. Ewan cared about what he was doing and has the talent to deal with Lucas' dialogue woes and it showed.