Religion and Music, especially commercial music

[Odin's Lapdog]

Do you think they mix?

Can religious lyrics actually provide positive input or are they just as effective as negative lyrics (ie just seen as music and aren't isn't really influential at this moment).

if so, got any examples.

Also in the christian sense, do you feel that modern adaptations of christian music are better than traditional hymns?


For those of other religious backgrounds, could you possibly descrribe what influence music has in your typical worship, if any at all and whether you have religion breaking into your relative popular music.


danke.

 

[PLAS]

I've heard many so called christian rock bands that put out really uninspired music, and others who make some of the greatest things I've heard in very different styles (Mortification, King's X, Pedro The Lion just to name three vastly different bands)

music is there to enjoy, no matter if it's focused on a specific group of people

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

but is this music that is sold commercially or stuff that is used in services

they are both relevant, i just wanted to know exactly which one you're talking about.

 

[PLAS]

albums from the three bands that I mentioned can be bought at most any record store

 

[Mentok]

All I know is Im sick of getting up on a Sunday morning, hungover and spending half an our watching music videos before realising Its the damn Christian music station

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

what's so bad about them, personally i've never seen a 'christian music' music video

 

[Mentok]

They are way too 'preachy'.

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

I've spent 2 hours listening to Funky house, i've now been spent the last half an hour or so listening to some Gospel house music.

It's no better or worse, it's to the same quality standard.


saying this, i wouldn't expect to hear this at any sort of church, too cool.

 

[JStorm]

They are way too 'preachy'.

Some, but not all. Many bands are just Christians in a band. Not a Christian band. Lifehouse, 12 Stones, P.O.D., Zao, The Juiana Theory.

 

[logansoldcigar]

Do you think they mix?

Can religious lyrics actually provide positive input or are they just as effective as negative lyrics (ie just seen as music and aren't isn't really influential at this moment).

if so, got any examples.

Also in the christian sense, do you feel that modern adaptations of christian music are better than traditional hymns?


For those of other religious backgrounds, could you possibly descrribe what influence music has in your typical worship, if any at all and whether you have religion breaking into your relative popular music.


danke.

anybody thats ever seen, or heard, the rock gods that were Stryper would dream of asking this.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

I don't think they can mix succesfully.
the main reason being that music is subjective, whenever I read about what the intent of the songwritter was with respect to a song I like I always think "gee that's funny, it meant something entirely different to me"
this means that the lines written would have to be pretty direct, like Matiasyahu (sp) or something, and his novelty wears pretty thin unless taken in really small quantities.

 

[The Squirrel]

but is this music that is sold commercially or stuff that is used in services

they are both relevant, i just wanted to know exactly which one you're talking about.

You can go to pretty much any store (amazon.com) that sells cd's and find Christian music.

Christian Rock is the majority of music that I listen to.

And most of them are better (In my opinion.) then any secular bands out there.

 

[The Squirrel]

Some, but not all. Many bands are just Christians in a band. Not a Christian band. Lifehouse, 12 Stones, P.O.D., Zao, The Juiana Theory.

Even Switchfoot and Relient K are popular in both groups.

 

[Motown Marvel]

the white stripes lyrics have many religious references in them....jack white is really religious....almost became a priest, but then he bought a new amp for his guitar.

 

[jaguarr]

anybody thats ever seen, or heard, the rock gods that were Stryper would dream of asking this.

Tooo Helllllllll wiiiiith the Devillll!!!!!

jag

 

[Mr Sparkle]

what about DC talk?

 

[jaguarr]

what about DC talk?

I hated those guys. Stryper got pretty mainstream in the heyday of 80's hairbands, though. Probably the most breakout Christian musicians other than Amy Grant and Al Green.

jag

 

[Mr Sparkle]

hmmm, I have a little horror story involving sixpence none the richer.

 

[kypade]

Are you asking whether a Christian can rewrite something like Amazing Grace and have non-Christian's connect with it?

Or if a Christian be in a band and write a very religious song, directly from his God and put it on the radio successfully (though not necessarily saying "I love you God")?

If the former, I think it's possible, lots of people don't pay attention to the lyrics anyway, if the music is good and the song is catchy people will enjoy it. If it's like, trying to convert them, or something, then I doubt people will take it very well.

If it's the latter, of course. If it's not out-right but rather inferred, no one's really gonna care one way or another where the inspiration came from.

 

[jaguarr]

hmmm, I have a little horror story involving sixpence none the richer.

Oh? Do tell!

jag

 

[jaguarr]

Are you asking whether a Christian can rewrite something like Amazing Grace and have non-Christian's connect with it?

Or if a Christian be in a band and write a very religious song, directly from his God and put it on the radio successfully (though not necessarily saying "I love you God")?

If the former, I think it's possible, lots of people don't pay attention to the lyrics anyway, if the music is good and the song is catchy people will enjoy it. If it's like, trying to convert them, or something, then I doubt people will take it very well.

If it's the latter, of course. If it's not out-right but rather inferred, no one's really gonna care one way or another where the inspiration came from.

Sure it's possilbe. Creed did it very recently, actually.

jag

 

[Mr Sparkle]

Oh? Do tell!

jag

basically, back in the 90's when a lot of the music was getting estrogen soaked for no reason, I had this girlfriend that shared my love of music, but she obviously had girl parts so they compelled her to sometimes choose some rather crappy-touchy-feely bull****.
though, I appreciate Mazzy Star thanks to her.
we would hang out and listen to records and talk, a lot.
I would put up with many of her records (cuz I was sweet on her ) but this one time she put on sixpence, and I was like "who's that band raping the corpse of "the La's"?" and she hands me the CD.

"it's pretty great" she said innocently.
"hmmmm!" I said
"no really, it's really perky and fun" she continued
"hmmmmm" I said frowning.
"let's see the liner notes, sometimes awesome bands will thank other awesome bands.....let's see......." I oppened the booklet
"so and so would like to thank MY LORD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST????!!!! you're making me listen to CHRISTIAN ROCK!? I THOUGHT YOU LOVED ME!"
she laughed

she probably though I was just joking.

 

[Green Lantern]

Some, but not all. Many bands are just Christians in a band. Not a Christian band. Lifehouse, 12 Stones, P.O.D., Zao, The Juiana Theory.

12 Stones are awesome. My band even covers Back Up.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

hmmm, I have a little horror story involving sixpence none the richer.

what, girlfriend made you listen to 'em?
I have 9 trillion of those.
I was...I was in love with a girl that...that li, liked...fhuh, I can't say it.

EDIT: hahaha, nevermind, I read the horror.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

you know me all to well.