Remembering 911

[Matt]

If my wife is taken away from me, I can damn guarantee you that I will mourn her for as long as I can remember her face. It has nothing to do with mental health.

Well, actually, it would have a lot to do with mental health. If you are still in serious mourning six years later, you likely did develop post-traumatic stress disorder.

 

[Matt]

No, why?

The kamikazee thing is a joke from that show.

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

We've been saying that for six years. There has been something planned for America every day in those six years, just as there was something planned every day for six years before 9/11. Should we really live in a state of perpetual fear because something might but probably not happen?

Not at all and I do not think it was suggested.
Let me ask you: Is it too much to ask that we simply remember the day, the victims, the vitriol that caused it once a year? If only to further inform our historically muddy foriegn policy in the Middle East...

 

[knowsbleed]

Paying respect is one thing. A public spectacle like we have endured on every anniversery since is quite another.

Make of it what you will. If there was no 'public spectacle' I would still remember the way I felt that morning. This is our version of 'where were you when JFK was assassinated'.

 

[Memphis Slim]

Well, actually, it would have a lot to do with mental health. If you are still in serious mourning six years later, you likely did develop post-traumatic stress disorder.

Which would be totally understandable, wouldn't you agree?

 

[Ash J. Williams]

The kamikazee thing is a joke from that show.

I see.

 

[knowsbleed]

Well, actually, it would have a lot to do with mental health. If you are still in serious mourning six years later, you likely did develop post-traumatic stress disorder.

As traumatic as 9/11 was to those people who lost loved ones, I think that a certain degree of mental stress is expected.

 

[Matt]

Not at all and I do not think it was suggested.
Let me ask you: Is it too much to ask that we simply remember the day, the victims, the vitriol that caused it once a year? If only to further inform our historically muddy foriegn policy in the Middle East...

Again, it is one thing to pay respects, it is another to make a public spectacle. And to try to use it to influence policy against the Middle East is about as much of a public spectacle as you can get.

 

[deathshead2]

No happy birthday for me I guess.

 

[Matt]

Make of it what you will. If there was no 'public spectacle' I would still remember the way I felt that morning. This is our version of 'where were you when JFK was assassinated'.

Great, remember away. I will. I don't need a public spectacle to tell me what I should be feeling. That is the only point I am making.

 

[Matt]

Which would be totally understandable, wouldn't you agree?

No, actually it wouldn't be. The human body is designed to handle high amounts of both physical and mental stress. To completely break from a traumatic event in your life, to the point where you can't recover after six years, indicates that the part of your brain that deals with coping is seriously damaged.

 

[knowsbleed]

You probably haven't even been with her for 6 years.

You probably don't know a thing about me...so how about you don't act like you do.

It's easy to be over the death of a loved one, but it's hard to stay focused on the rest of the world I guess.

Please rephrase this or make it relevant to the conversation. I don't understand what you're trying to get at.

 

[Matt]

As traumatic as 9/11 was to those people who lost loved ones, I think that a certain degree of mental stress is expected.

A degree? Yes. A degree that continues six years later to the point where you are still in serious mourning, no.

 

[Addendum]

I remember 9-11-01. It was a day off from work and I slept in until noon

 

[CFE]

I remember 9-11-01. It was a day off from work and I slept in until noon

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

OMG you're so bad. Not cool, dude...funny, but not cool...

CFE

 

[knowsbleed]

A degree? Yes. A degree that continues six years later to the point where you are still in serious mourning, no.

To you...some people are just devoted like that. You can't sum up mourning into a generalized statement like that...its different for different people. That person may just not want to have another relationship like the one they had...its completely understandable to me...and I really don't think I'm 'mentally damaged'.

 

[Addendum]

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

OMG you're so bad. Not cool, dude...funny, but not cool...

CFE

Wasn't meant to be funny since I actually had that day off from work

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

Again, it is one thing to pay respects, it is another to make a public spectacle. And to try to use it to influence policy against the Middle East is about as much of a public spectacle as you can get.

Wow... Do you read your own predispositions into everything others say?
When I said "inform" our foriegn policy... how the hell did you come up with "influence policy against?" I was implying just the opposite. If you're going to try to read my mind... don't. Also when I say "remember" how did you get "public spectacle?"
Next time just respond to what I say, not the voices in your head.

 

[Matt]

To you...some people are just devoted like that. You can't sum up mourning into a generalized statement like that...its different for different people. That person may just not want to have another relationship like the one they had...its completely understandable to me...and I really don't think I'm 'mentally damaged'.

Yes, you can sum it up. I'm not saying dating. I am saying Serious mourning. I think it is pretty clear what I mean. And if you were still in Serious mourning six years later, from a psychological stand point, you should probably be institutionalized.

 

[Addendum]

Well, it's not like on the anniversary, the current administration will say "We're now actually going after those responsible for 9-11, and downshift our focus in Iraq which had nothing to do with the 9-11 attacks"

 

[Matt]

Wow... Do you read your own predispositions into everything others say?
When I said "inform" our foriegn policy... how the hell did you come up with "influence policy against?" I was implying just the opposite. If you're going to try to read my mind... don't. Also when I say "remember" how did you get "public spectacle?"
Next time just respond to what I say, not the voices in your head.

Someone is defensive. Maybe you should be more clear. Your comments about "Informing on our muddy history with the Middle East", combined with the comment on how there are constantly threats, imply to me that you feel stronger action is needed against the Middle East and this day should be used as a rallying point. If you are not capable of articulating a point, do not blame me for interpreting the vague comments you make.

 

[Jolie_Desastre]

I can guarantee you that a dead wife or husband isn't stopping the widows from enjoying the rest of their life.
I bet you 90% have gone on dates since September 11th

i know of one that is already remarried

 

[knowsbleed]

Yes, you can sum it up. I'm not saying dating. I am saying Serious mourning. I think it is pretty clear what I mean. And if you were still in Serious mourning six years later, from a psychological stand point, you should probably be institutionalized.

If you are still acting like the Widower in Maxim Magazine after 6 years of mourning...then you have been psychologically damaged to the extent of not handling normal social responsibilities, then yes, you need help. Agreed...done deal.

 

[knowsbleed]

Psycho's don't know that they're psycho's... haha

Idiots that think what they type is intelligent. Seriously, got something real to add to the conversation?

 

[CFE]

Wasn't meant to be funny since I actually had that day off from work

I'm not saying you didn't, it's just, given the day...it's ironic and sadistically funny to me.

CFE