Comics 'Retcon Bombs' FNSM#9 Discuss-

[CConn]

I havnt hada chance to read the ish yet, so i wana ask-- are you sure it wasn't all said kinda tongue in cheek? if not then maybe its just going to be used to send uncle ben away again. it would erase his reappearance from aunt may and peters' memories and so make the fact he CAN'T come back to life in the 616 universe easier to take for pete and may. Oh and let May continue dating Jarvis i like that idea.

Oh Uncle Ben will definitely be gone by the end of the arc, I would expect. Y'know, this story isn't like JMS and ASM where they're trying to change anything or whatever. It seems like PAD's just trying to write an enjoyable story, not change the mythos. We won't know for sure until the arc's over, obviously, but that's what it seems like. I would expect at the end of it for things to be pretty much back to normal.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

Oh Uncle Ben will definitely be gone by the end of the arc, I would expect. Y'know, this story isn't like JMS and ASM where they're trying to change anything or whatever. It seems like PAD's just trying to write an enjoyable story, not change the mythos. We won't know for sure until the arc's over, obviously, but that's what it seems like. I would expect at the end of it for things to be pretty much back to normal.

oh yeah, i know that, im just talkin bout the ret-con bombs and why they were brought up. my money's on ben throwin himself infront of may or pete to stop one.

anyway wat does ret-conn stand for? i can guess but i'd rather tell u! i obviously know wat it means (i've been readin comics long enuff) but never thort to ask...

 

[ben_reilly_s_s]

if Ben gets hit by it, how will it affect alternate Peter?

 

[XSpidercideX]

These retcon bombs were mentioned over 10 years ago when this Goblin was introduced. He used them in the comic Spider-man meets Spider-man 2099. They were not created to clean up stories, but its interesting how he brought this character back. Maybe they are planning to retcon stuff.

 

[XSpidercideX]

These retcon bombs were mentioned over 10 years ago when this Goblin was introduced. He used them in the comic Spider-man meets Spider-man 2099. They were not created to clean up stories, but its interesting how he brought this character back. Maybe they are planning to retcon stuff.

 

[Dangerous]

I havnt hada chance to read the ish yet, so i wana ask-- are you sure it wasn't all said kinda tongue in cheek? if not then maybe its just going to be used to send uncle ben away again. it would erase his reappearance from aunt may and peters' memories and so make the fact he CAN'T come back to life in the 616 universe easier to take for pete and may. Oh and let May continue dating Jarvis i like that idea.

But if Ben were to jump in front of one of these bombs or get hit, would that not mean that Ben had never existed?
Or would it only mean that version of Ben never existed?

Hmm, that would mean PP and May could move on since they would forget their visitor. I do believe that by the end of the arc Ben will be gone again,
I just hope that is not all that happens.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

Hopefully ben sacrifices himself cos how else could marvel justify why may and pete wouldnt keep him (aww, he's like a puppy). plus it reinforces the whole ben-was-made-to-be-dead thing in the 616 universe. it seems obvious only that version would be disappeared, but im only speculating. i for one, would love for this to be all that happens. i want an arc with no lasting effects whatsoever! like the good old days, before x-men's success forced marvel's hand in regards to creating the clone saga etc

Gawwwwd i hate what the x-men have done to comics -- lack of imaginative ideas for origins, alternate futures, waaaay too powerful marvel characters and overcomplicated arcs. not to mention ppl returning to the dead-- x-men blatantly set the precedent for marvel in this regard. anyway, im ranting...

 

[Dangerous]

I'd also like to see Spidey2009 show up and the 3 Spider-men to have a throwdown.

 

[samurai black]

I haven't been following this particular arc since it wasn't really tied into civil war, but are these weapons really called "Retcon Bombs" in the book?

 

[Cyclops]

A Spider-Man from three years from now?

 

[Doc Destruction]

I would like to see JMS get hit with a retcon bomb, please!

 

[SpideyInATree]

Read this book last night. Wow. What a really enjoyable read.

Seemed kinda too DC comics for me for a few seconds there with all the talk of multiverses and everything. I was expecting to see Spider-Man of Earth 2 pop up in the regular universe or something because of it.

But the retcon bomb....hmmm...wasn't this retcon bomb done before in a Spider-Man story? Possibly in Spider-Man 2099? I swear to God this is not the first time I've heard of this. So, Wolverine25th, it's not a plot device, heh...Mr. Grumpy Guts.

And Spidey's new suit coming back to bite him in the ass, haha. Didn't see him thanking Stark then.

I really like this story and I am sort of relishing in the fact that people REALLY THOUGHT that the actual Uncle Ben was back and dropped this title, ha!

I've gotta dip into my Spidey 2099 back issues! STAND ASIDE!

 

[Spiderluke]

Read this book last night. Wow. What a really enjoyable read.

Seemed kinda too DC comics for me for a few seconds there with all the talk of multiverses and everything. I was expecting to see Spider-Man of Earth 2 pop up in the regular universe or something because of it.

But the retcon bomb....hmmm...wasn't this retcon bomb done before in a Spider-Man story? Possibly in Spider-Man 2099? I swear to God this is not the first time I've heard of this. So, Wolverine25th, it's not a plot device, heh...Mr. Grumpy Guts.

And Spidey's new suit coming back to bite him in the ass, haha. Didn't see him thanking Stark then.

I really like this story and I am sort of relishing in the fact that people REALLY THOUGHT that the actual Uncle Ben was back and dropped this title, ha!

I've gotta dip into my Spidey 2099 back issues! STAND ASIDE!

It did have it's DC moments (I kiinda think they are making a joke about DC if you ask me.) I agree though, it was a very enjoyable read and a very differen't story.

 

[SpideyInATree]

I liked the futuristic Spider-Man from 2211, he was pretty kick ass. And the comment his daughter, or should I say "Hobby", made to him, "Peter Parker would be ashamed of you!"

Definitely an interesting story. And you could DEFINITELY use some of those retcon bombs for some things in current continuity.

Spidey: Hey, Norman, check out these pumpkin bombs! They're supposed to make middle aged horny men into young men again!

Norman: GIVE ME THAT, FOOL!!

*poof*

Spidey: SUCKER!!!

 

[Spiderluke]

I liked the futuristic Spider-Man from 2211, he was pretty kick ass. And the comment his daughter, or should I say "Hobby", made to him, "Peter Parker would be ashamed of you!"

Definitely an interesting story. And you could DEFINITELY use some of those retcon bombs for some things in current continuity.

Spidey: Hey, Norman, check out these pumpkin bombs! They're supposed to make middle aged horny men into young men again!

Norman: GIVE ME THAT, FOOL!!

*poof*

Spidey: SUCKER!!!

That's just good stuff right there.

 

[AmaznSpider-Fan]

I doubt Spidey 2099 would show up. He's currently in the title Exiles.

 

[Dangerous]

Read this book last night. Wow. What a really enjoyable read.

Seemed kinda too DC comics for me for a few seconds there with all the talk of multiverses and everything. I was expecting to see Spider-Man of Earth 2 pop up in the regular universe or something because of it.

But the retcon bomb....hmmm...wasn't this retcon bomb done before in a Spider-Man story? Possibly in Spider-Man 2099? I swear to God this is not the first time I've heard of this. So, Wolverine25th, it's not a plot device, heh...Mr. Grumpy Guts.

And Spidey's new suit coming back to bite him in the ass, haha. Didn't see him thanking Stark then.

I really like this story and I am sort of relishing in the fact that people REALLY THOUGHT that the actual Uncle Ben was back and dropped this title, ha!

I've gotta dip into my Spidey 2099 back issues! STAND ASIDE!

I don't read much regular superhero DC, save the odd Superman trade here and some Batman DK2 there.
So I can't draw comparisons to their multiverse style hi-jinks, but Il take your word for it.

Peeps here did think that it was the 616 Ben returning originally, but I don't think they still believe it’s him. Most don't read FNSM because the whole parallel universe's/ time travelling thing is a bit too FF or non-Spidey esque for them.

I dig it though, unusual is good, especially if some stuff gets retcon'd.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

Spoiler

I liked the futuristic Spider-Man from 2211, he was pretty kick ass. And the comment his daughter, or should I say "Hobby", made to him, "Peter Parker would be ashamed of you!"

this bodes well aaaand not so well. if its notable that peter is against government work then he might actually lead the anti-civil war movement when cap is captured. he could break him out or something! thatd be so cool

BUT not boding well... "peter parker" is obviously a famous name. so maybe his

Spoiler

unmasking

sticks... Although i am tempted to see how its all dealt with.

 

[UK_Stu]

this bodes well aaaand not so well. if its notable that peter is against government work then he might actually lead the anti-civil war movement when cap is captured. he could break him out or something! thatd be so cool

BUT not boding well... "peter parker" is obviously a famous name. so maybe his

Spoiler

unmasking

sticks... Although i am tempted to see how its all dealt with.

Remember this is a parallel universe not the 616. So whatever happens in the 616 universe in Civil War may not have any affect on the parrallel universe. They are completely different

 

[MyPokerShirt]

yeah but its obviously at hint at something. its too... political to just be a throw away comment and we know spidey gets

Spoiler

unmasked

and that he changes sides so its a pretty good peek at the future, non?

 

[Kraven]

I thought this was a pretty cool issue, looking forward to the conclusion.

 

[UK_Stu]

I like the idea of parallel universes as a way of retconning away the poor stories. I've explained my theory on a number of threads, but I'll go through them again, and before anyone moans about parallel universes being not "street-level" enough for Spidey or too cosmic - surely it would be worth having one if it rids us of the debacle of sins past?

Anyway, It seems the alternate future universe hobgoblin has found a way to transend different universes and is killing off each version of Spider-man he(she?) comes across. Hobgoblin implies as much at the end of FNSM #8. Maybe a combination of this parallel universe hopping and universes 'merging' as indicated by 'Hobby' in FNSM #9 has allowed certain aspects of other universes to creep into the 616 universe. A direct result of which has changed some past events, which in turn has altered the memories of some 616 characters.

With this information in mind, what if in a parallel world, gwen stacy wasn't Peter's girlfriend and did have a fling with Norman resulting in twins, a fling that that universe's MJ knew about. At one of these universe merging moments the parallel universe twins appeared in the 616 universe.

This would preserve the memory/reputation of the 616 Gwen and MJ, as she would only have retropective memories created once the twins had appeared. This would also help explain away the twins actions and memories, how they were born, their DNA and why Norman hadn't mentioned them before - he had retropective memories added when they arrived.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

so ur basically saying sins past wasnt only a retcon, but a in-marvel retcon with a in-marvel way of explaining it through hobgoblin. that wont happen but itd be nice. however, how would this then stop it? its now part of 616. anyway its too specific for the insane hobgoblin of 2211 surely?

 

[UK_Stu]

basically, thats my theory, but you're right its never going to happen. More likely it'll never be discussed again, and Marvel will pretend it never happened.

 

[AlteredEgo]

yeah but its obviously at hint at something. its too... political to just be a throw away comment and we know spidey gets

Spoiler

unmasked

and that he changes sides so its a pretty good peek at the future, non?

did anyone else fill in that spoiler with their own word? i just kinda found it funny to spoilerize one word. kinda makes it a fill in the blank thing. i woulda guessed "molesterd".