🇺🇸 Ridin’ with Biden: It's Joever

[Lily Adler]

And someone takes it to the Supreme Court where it would get overturned.

I would rather try and see than live in fear.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

The blowback will be all on Biden if it's struck down (for violating the Antideficiency Act or otherwise), just like the Eviction Moratorium and even Roe v. Wade being whittled away or struck down. SCOTUS doesn't give a **** about public opinion, they aren't elected by the public, they are all dictators for life.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

He packed the courts to make sure they weren't in the end.

The problem with your argument is that they would have been delayed early on, because all you would need is a Democrat friendly judge to stall it from going into action.

So again, how many. Same for Biden.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The blowback will be all on Biden if it's struck down (for violating the Antideficiency Act or otherwise), just like the Eviction Moratorium and even Roe v. Wade being whittled away or struck down. SCOTUS doesn't give a **** about public opinion, they aren't elected by the public, they are all dictators for life.

This ignores the inherent blowback of doing nothing. The Dems have to fight. They aren't. They are doing little to nothing and have created apathy in their support by doing so. Look at how little support they have from the youth vote now. If the Dems are only going to run on how bad Republicans are, how do they ever plan on staying in power?

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

And someone takes it to the Supreme Court where it would get overturned.

Do you realize the political blowback if Republicans deny student loan forgiveness to 45 million Americans?

Lmao.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

If the Republicans cost me 50k I'm going to be energized for the mid-terms.

Give Democrats some weapons and armor to defend themselves in 2022.

 

[Marvolo]

Do you realize the political blowback if Republicans deny student loan forgiveness to 45 million Americans?

Lmao.

I still think this student loan problem is a viper that needs to be handled carefully. Wipe away the current student debt and then you've got millions of new college students every year resentful that they aren't also getting free college.

 

[Teelie]

That is something I have been saying too but sitting around doing nothing about the current situation is not helping anyone at all either.

 

[Holy Slapper]

Do you realize the political blowback if Republicans deny student loan forgiveness to 45 million Americans?

Lmao.

As if they cared.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

As if they cared.

They care about staying in power.

Pissing off 45 million Americans is not the best way to do that.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Making people angry is why Republicans get any voters. Those voters like it that way: owning the libs.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

 

[Zarex]

I still think this student loan problem is a viper that needs to be handled carefully. Wipe away the current student debt and then you've got millions of new college students every year resentful that they aren't also getting free college.

It has got to be accompanied by structural change in the way we finance education to prevent this from happening again. And doesn't incentivize Old Ivy from raising their rates even higher.

I love the idea of free community college for all. And howsabout we force Big Brand Name Universities to throw open their gates to ALL qualified applicants instead of artificially reducing class sizes in order to increase demand (and tuition)? With technological advancements we now know our most prestigious institutions can and should be educating WAY more students than they were back in the Seventeen hundreds. Open your doors to more folks whose parents aren't funding a new building or we cut off the government spigot.

 

[Prison Mike]

 

[InCali]

It has got to be accompanied by structural change in the way we finance education to prevent this from happening again. And doesn't incentivize Old Ivy from raising their rates even higher.

I love the idea of free community college for all. And howsabout we force Big Brand Name Universities to throw open their gates to ALL qualified applicants instead of artificially reducing class sizes in order to increase demand (and tuition)? With technological advancements we now know our most prestigious institutions can and should be educating WAY more students than they were back in the Seventeen hundreds. Open your doors to more folks whose parents aren't funding a new building or we cut off the government spigot.

YES!!! People don't realize how much our educational systems have deteriorated in the last 50+ years and a big part of that is the costs have gone through the roof. This has an inordinate impact on middle and lower economic class families who are trying to live a better life through education. Instead of paying some corporation beyond top dollar for a new bomber so they can make obscene profits, let's consider funneling that money into education for those who need it.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Forbes - No, Biden Can’t Forgive Student Loans By Executive Order (August 2021)

Advocates of debt cancelation by executive order point out that the Higher Education Act gives the Secretary of Education power to “enforce, pay, compromise, waive, or release any right, title, claim, lien, or demand, however acquired.” This provision would seem to give the Secretary broad power to cancel student debt.

But as financial aid expert Mark Kantrowitz notes, another part of the statute limits the secretary’s authority. He only has the power to cancel obligations owed to the U.S. government “in the performance of, and with respect to, the functions, powers, and duties, vested in him by this part.”

In other words, the Secretary of Education only has the power to forgive student debt when Congress gives it to him.

When President Biden has canceled student debt, it has always been under the authority of a specific program authorized by Congress. Borrower defense is one example: Congress gives the Secretary of Education authority to cancel debt after instances of outright fraud. Congress also allows the secretary to cancel debt when borrowers experience a total and permanent disability. Borrowers who work in public service for ten years can also receive a loan discharge.

In each of these circumstances, Congress created a specific provision for loan cancelation, and required borrowers to meet certain conditions before receiving forgiveness. If the Secretary really had the broad authority to cancel student loans whenever he saw fit, Congress wouldn’t need to create specific programs such as Public Service Loan Forgiveness. The very existence of those programs proves the limits of the executive branch’s authority.....

The debate over whether the President Biden can cancel student debt with the flick of his pen is a distraction. He can’t, but there are better solutions on the table. Congress and the Department of Education should work together to put them into practice.

Inside Higher Ed - Can Biden Cancel Student Debt? Depends Who You Ask (August 2021)

Disagreements on the president's legal authority have also extended to members of the Democratic Party. While Warren and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, a Democrat from New York, believe that Biden could cancel debt "with the flick of a pen," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a Democrat from California, said he doesn't have that authority.

A report by The Intercept alleges that Pelosi's comments were prompted by a memo circulating around Capitol Hill from the organization Freedom to Prosper, which was founded by a couple closely connected to Pelosi. The memo states that the Biden administration can't cancel student debt due to the Antideficiency Act, which prohibits executive branch officials from spending money Congress hasn't appropriated.

"Broad student debt cancellation would trigger The Antideficiency Act, because the Department of Education would be spending funds that have not been appropriated," the memo says.

Pelosi's office didn't respond to a request for clarification from Inside Higher Ed on the legal basis of her comments about the president's authority.

The same idea behind why the president cannot just unilaterally erase everybody's taxes without Congress's approval and could be a reason for SCOTUS to stop action like that. The other issue is that it is not a long term solution to the rising cost of education for the new and next generation of students that comes after if such a debt wipe were to occur.

 

[Lily Adler]

Forbes - No, Biden Can’t Forgive Student Loans By Executive Order (August 2021)



Inside Higher Ed - Can Biden Cancel Student Debt? Depends Who You Ask (August 2021)



The same idea behind why the president cannot just unilaterally erase everybody's taxes without Congress's approval and could be a reason for SCOTUS to stop action like that. The other issue is that it is not a long term solution to the rising cost of education for the new and next generation of students that comes after if such a debt wipe were to occur.

Warren, Schumer, Pressley, Colleagues: President Biden Can and Should Use Executive Action to Cancel up to $50,000 in Federal Student Loan Debt Immediately | U.S. Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts (senate.gov)

Yep this is their answer to it.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Reuters - More than 4.6M got health insurance through ACA in 2021 -Biden

 

[Lily Adler]

Reuters - More than 4.6M got health insurance through ACA in 2021 -Biden

We need to build towards that public option and I hope we get there before the end of our lifetimes.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Reuters - Christmas supply-chain crisis has been averted, Biden and FedEx CEO declare

NY Times - Why Christmas Gifts Are Arriving on Time This Year
Fears that a disrupted supply chain could wreak havoc on the logistics industry over the holiday turned out to be wrong as many Americans ordered early and shopped in stores.

 

[Lily Adler]

Reuters - Christmas supply-chain crisis has been averted, Biden and FedEx CEO declare

NY Times - Why Christmas Gifts Are Arriving on Time This Year
Fears that a disrupted supply chain could wreak havoc on the logistics industry over the holiday turned out to be wrong as many Americans ordered early and shopped in stores.

FedEx! Solidarity to their workers!

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Making people angry is why Republicans get any voters. Those voters like it that way: owning the libs.

This works both way. But Dems refuse to motivate their voters. Trump literally had to do it for them. And how did he do it? Anger. By showing what he wanted to do. The Dems refuse to show the Republicans for what they are.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Biden says he supports filibuster carve-out for voting rights - CNNPolitics

Biden’s Interior Dept. Reverses Trump’s Attempt to Strip Mashpee Wampanoag Lands of Reservation Status | Sovereignty

US military strikes fell 54% in Biden's first year compared to Trump's last, monitoring group says

 

[Lily Adler]

When it comes to canceling student debt, the Trump administration was the party of no. Biden is the party of 'conversations are continuing.'

Trump knew how popular this was and wanted to do it which I found amusing.

 

[Prison Mike]

Biden needs to pick up that damn memo and read it!