Robert Pattinson IS The Batman

[TheGuy]

Give us the Batfamily. No more of this loner vigilante that some are advocating or that stupid argument Batman works better alone. It's pretty much the major characterization not fully or properly explored on film. I'd be sorely disappointed if Dick, at least, is not a major part of these supposedly 3-part films.

 

[DeadlyWest]

Wait, where is my batsignal when it comes to talking about how bad Tom Kings batman run is...i need to be informed when this happens. XD

Giving the guy a 50+ run just for is batcat fanfiction...oh DC, you were desperate.



What? When?
Most of his stuff is "Oh im Bruce wayne, im so alone and have nobody because im cursed to be batman in a world that is so awful...please ignore my whole support system and everything...the only one who can save me and understand me completely is catwoman who i want to but cant let me save with her super awesome female private parts.

His whole character study is of a Bruce Wayne that is outdated.
A rage filled guy who hates everything, who loaths himself and is batman because he has some kind of death wish.
A batman that believes he cant be happy with being batman.

Add to that the bad dialogue and otherwise empty storys...there is a good reason why he has to leave 15 issues earlier than he was supposed to.

For a early timeline movie it works, not a take i would like if they go with it...but if you go with a bruce that hasnt worked with the justice league, who doesnt have his sons and daughters etc, then you can go with tom kings characterization.

I've never been a big fan of people trying to support their arguments by mockingly abridging how something appears to them. Saying that most of his stuff is as you described sounds good, but all it does is describe how you see King's Batman's, which I'll admit I'm not a big fan of. But that doesn't say much of anything. You really wanna tell me that King doesn't do a lot of at least decent character studying when he has stuff like this in his comics?

Hell, I'd honestly argue that a lot of writers, especially Scott Snyder and Tom King, make a point of Bruce not using his support systems. Because Bruce isn't a perfect person. He's a flawed human being with a serious amount of anxiety issues, paranoia and downright sociopathic tendencies along with being crazy enough that his immediate response to watching his parents get shot is to dress up like a Bat and fight crime. So, yeah, unfortunately, Bruce Wayne is not perfect. Do they take it too far? Absolutely. Them casually having Bruce physically abuse his adopted kids is stupid. But you cannot say that Bruce being paranoid and self destructive enough to not use his support systems isn't in character. Especially after getting hurt when he basically gets stood up at his own wedding.
I'd also argue that, while poorly done, Bruce learning to be happy while also be Batman is literally the point of King's run. That's his intention. It's not done well and the pacing is absolutely atrocious, but that's the idea. Does that mean I think everything Tom King does is good? No, it's mostly dog crap.

Most of his issues outright have no plot, the pacing of the entire run since issue 50 has been an absolute snorefest, the constant changing artists is extremely jarring and some of them outright don't fit with the story, I really wasn't a fan of the War of Jokes and Riddles, the recent character death (which I won't spoil) he's tried to pull if actually intended to be permanent is quite possibly the dumbest decision from a comic book writer I've ever seen since Spider-Man's One More Day and will be retconned immediately due to Doomsday Clock, him making Thomas Wayne basically BatGod when he's meant to be an alcoholic who just shoots people because he's bad at actual combat is borderline brain cell reducing and the personalities of both Bruce and Selina are so weirdly done that anytime they have any actual dialogue it's actually off putting (Selina hasn't done an actual meow since the 90s and Bruce Wayne doesn't say hell yeah. It's kinda that simple.) But, that doesn't mean every aspect of King's work is horse crap. Terrible stories can have good things, fantastic stories can have bad things. It's that simple.

Either way, to bring it back to the original intention of the thread, I'm not worried about Pattinson potentially reading King's Batman. There's way worse things to read. Please for the love of God keep him away from anything written by Frank Miller that isn't Batman Year One. I beg of you.

 

[Invader Joker]

There's no way Pattinson hasn't read The Dark Knight Returns if he's already read the classics tho. But yeah, anything Frank Miller that isn't Year One or TDKR he shouldn't touch. In fact he should watch Linkara's review of ASBAR instead.

 

[DeadlyWest]

I've always slightly cringed whenever people bring up Dark Knight as something to immediately read when you wanna get into Batman.

Yes, that is a great idea. Read the thing that's meant to deconstruct the character you have no understanding of yet because you've never read another Batman comic in your life that turns him into an unhinged sociopath.

This'll go swimmingly.

 

[I Am The Knight]

But an actor has to be playing the character that the writer and director have laid out. They could have a completely different take on Batman. So for example, if he's only read Frank Miller's TDKR, and yet, Matt Reeve's Batman is nothing like that, then what's the point of Pattinson understanding Miller's TDKR? The vast majority of actors are there to act out what is in the script. Most actors aren't on the creative side of film making. Yes, an actor needs to understand the character, but in this case in particular, that character he needs to understand, is Matt Reeve's version of Batman, more so than some random Batman writer.

Andrew Garfield was an avid Spiderman fan and understood that character quite well, but in the end, it didn't really matter for that particular version that we saw in live action. Andrew Garfield's knowledge of the character didn't save that movie. Like I said, it definitely helps if the actor has more knowledge with the history of the character, but in the end, it's way more important how the director sells us on his version.

Wait, where is my batsignal when it comes to talking about how bad Tom Kings batman run is...i need to be informed when this happens. XD

Giving the guy a 50+ run just for is batcat fanfiction...oh DC, you were desperate.



What? When?
Most of his stuff is "Oh im Bruce wayne, im so alone and have nobody because im cursed to be batman in a world that is so awful...please ignore my whole support system and everything...the only one who can save me and understand me completely is catwoman who i want to but cant let me save with her super awesome female private parts.

His whole character study is of a Bruce Wayne that is outdated.
A rage filled guy who hates everything, who loaths himself and is batman because he has some kind of death wish.
A batman that believes he cant be happy with being batman.

Add to that the bad dialogue and otherwise empty storys...there is a good reason why he has to leave 15 issues earlier than he was supposed to.

For a early timeline movie it works, not a take i would like if they go with it...but if you go with a bruce that hasnt worked with the justice league, who doesnt have his sons and daughters etc, then you can go with tom kings characterization.

Woof. Thanks for the explanation. That does sound awful.

 

[Invader Joker]

I've always slightly cringed whenever people bring up Dark Knight as something to immediately read when you wanna get into Batman.

Yes, that is a great idea. Read the thing that's meant to deconstruct the character you have no understanding of yet because you've never read another Batman comic in your life that turns him into an unhinged sociopath.

This'll go swimmingly.

TDKR does not portray Batman as a sociopath. I wouldn't even say it deconstructs him, it just ages him and pushes him to new limits.

 

[Invader Joker]

Rigan Machado is one of the guys that taught fight choreography to Keanu Reeves for the John Wick movies. Rob has been a student of his for a while but this post makes me think he may be training him for the choreography of The Batman as well

 

[Boom]

 

[Eddie Dean]

 

[Black Narcissus]

Per Coullider:

Pattinson-" Matt is taking inspiration from Frank Miller's Dark Knight.''

 

[Art Vandelay]

Ugh.

 

[Invader Joker]

Per Coullider:

Pattinson-" Matt is taking inspiration from Frank Miller's Dark Knight.''

Link? I watched the Collider interview and the reporter didn't ask him about Batman

 

[battinson]

He never said that. Some clickbait site probably speculated, and someone else ran with it?

 

[I Am The Knight]

That's just BN trolling fans.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Rigan Machado is one of the guys that taught fight choreography to Keanu Reeves for the John Wick movies. Rob has been a student of his for a while but this post makes me think he may be training him for the choreography of The Batman as well

Look's like Rob cut his hair rather short.

 

[Invader Joker]

Look's like Rob cut his hair rather short.

That's an old pic, he reposted it with that new caption

 

[shauner111]

Maybe he means Year One?

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

That's an old pic, he reposted it with that new caption

Oh ok, thanks for the clarification.

 

[signalman]

I would be happy if we don't see Bruce Wayne in this movie, Batman 24/7 trying to solve whatever crime he is working on.

 

[FatRobin]

Has anyone seen Netflix's The King? He's pretty funny there.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Has anyone seen Netflix's The King? He's pretty funny there.

Rob was the highlight of the movie for me.

 

[Gothamsknight]

Rigan Machado is one of the guys that taught fight choreography to Keanu Reeves for the John Wick movies. Rob has been a student of his for a while but this post makes me think he may be training him for the choreography of The Batman as well

Awesome!

 

[OutOfBoose]

Has anyone seen Netflix's The King? He's pretty funny there.

Another major bastardization of history, as it's usual for biopics or "historical" movies, and Pattinson's character was a cardboard cutout. Performance was rather cringy too.

 

[FatRobin]

Another major bastardization of history, as it's usual for biopics or "historical" movies, and Pattinson's character was a cardboard cutout. Performance was rather cringy too.

Really? I liked the scene where he first met King Henry and I liked his performance overall. It's not his best obviously, but it was rather entertaining in an otherwise fairly dull film.

 

[Whatupman]

Yeah, Robert was the best part about The King.