Scorsese's The Irishman

[Marvolo]

And arent they supposed to be using cgi to de-age the actors for parts of the film? That **** ain't cheap.

 

[RomanticPenguin]

that will be interesting

 

[redhawk23]

And arent they supposed to be using cgi to de-age the actors for parts of the film? That **** ain't cheap.

Its actually kind of nuts and will be the biggest test of that technolog we've seen yet.

It really just puts modern filmmaking trends in perspective.

in 1975, Robert De Niro won an Oscar for playing a younger version of Marlon Brando in the Godfather Part 2.

In 2019, the younger version of Robert De Niro will be played by...Robert De Niro via a hundred million dollars of digital effects.

 

[THE WOLF]

I hope Netflix lets Scorsese make 3 hour movie

 

[nite-owl]

Sharon Stone mentioned on Marc Maron's podcast that she has worked with Scorsese in the last year or two. So she might have a role in the movie.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Scorsese makes many commercials for the abroad market so that might be it? I would like to see her in this tho.

 

[nite-owl]

Could be.

But the again she did she was in GOTG Vol.2.

 

[Black Narcissus]

 

[Fallen Angel]

It just seems unreal we'll be seeing DeNiro and Pacino back to how they looked during their peak years of the 70's/80's.

 

[James.B]

Costume designer Powell also participated on the panel, discussing her role in Martin Scorsese’s upcoming film for Netflix, The Irishman, which will feature characters played by Robert De Niro, Al Pacino, Joe Pesci and Harvey Keitel spanning several decades, appearing up to 30 years younger in the film. The budget of the film has reportedly ballooned to $140 million to account for the new technology.

“I have to de-age the bodies without technology,” said Powell, explaining that the budget only affords de-aging of the faces and hands.

“I have to make guys of a certain age look 30-40 years younger. I’ll do the best I can with clothing. If it doesn’t work and they somehow find the money to work on the bodies, I’d want to work on the postproduction,” she said, however knowing that the costume designer probably wouldn’t be allowed in the visual effects studio.

“It’s a massive risk,” she said of the process of de-aging these actors that we know so well over five decades. “We don’t know if it’s going to work. We hope it’s going to work.”

“I’ve seen a six-second clip and it’s moved on leaps and bounds from Benjamin Button. The bit I’ve seen looks extraordinary,” said Powell. “It’s completely different. We just don’t know what it’s going to look like over the whole film.”

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[terry78]

I guess they'd go for body doubles or something. Unless that would be too much trouble.

 

[Art Vandelay]

I wonder how they'll handle their voices? While De Niro more or less sounds the same as he did as a young man, Pacino sounds significantly different now than he did in his Godfather days.

 

[THE WOLF]

Read a draft of the scripts from 2009. It was kinda short.

 

[Pennywise]

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[terry78]

I'll be sure to catch it there. I feel theatrical carries more weight regardless of streaming.

 

[Pennywise]

One of my most anticipated films of 2019.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Streaming will be as large of a business model on par with theatrical and television. It's a huge growth market and it's only going to take off when we get into the 2020's. I think that's how we will get to see movies made that aren't being made right now whereas the theatrical will become more like going to a Broadway show like George Lucas is saying. It's already like that in a way.

 

[DarkKnight88]

The problem with that model is more films get lost in the shuffle. How many films has Netflix released that have more or less been ignored. The producers of Crazy Rich Asians mentioned how Netflix offered them a lot of money to make it for them but they knew that it would give the movie a bigger impact if it was released theatrically and its box office would be reported, good or bad.

 

[Persona]

As long as Netflix releases some of these films theatrically, too, they can still achieve that impact.

The social media aspect is totally there as people immediately can watch these films conveniently and talk about them. Getting it into theaters, though, will help in terms of GA and critical recognition.

 

[Persona]

There are obvious downsides to the model, too (really want Blu releases for some of this stuff), but ultimately I'm just glad Netflix is taking a chance on some of these productions and distributing them. Some of this is stuff that would never get made or that people wouldn't get to see outside of the major cities, anyways.

Given how hard it was for Scorsese to get Hollywood to finance Silence, I am not sure The Irishman with its bigger budget would have gotten off the ground as easily without Netflix stepping in. And look at Cuaron's Roma... a Spanish-language, personal art project. Netflix helped facilitate that, and everyone will be able to see it. I am just thankful, really.

 

[jmc]

Netflix is spending something like $8B on content this year alone, everything from this film to content overseas, they're even releasing it's first Australian produced series soon also. This is why they are so dominant and why it's going to be difficult for Disney and Warner Bros to make their services work IMO, they are going to be the place where creative people want to take their ideas. The more talent they get like Scorsese, the better the quality of work they produce, the better the platform becomes. Where I think Disney and WB are going to get into trouble is they are going to be relying a lot on their back catalogue of films to be the main selling point, the problem being everyone who's a Disney or WB fan already owns the films and TV shows they want, so unless they're are committed to spending the same amount of money or even more I have trouble seeing their services making a dent in Netflix's strangle hold.

 

[Pennywise]

Half of The Irishman to feature de-aged Robert DeNiro and Al Pacino, rumored for October release

For years now, we’ve known that Martin Scorsese plans to de-age Al Pacino and Robert DeNiro for his forthcoming crime drama, The Irishman. However, what we didn’t know was how ambitious those plans actually were until now.

“We’re youthifying the actors in the first half of the movie,” Scorsese’s longtime editor Thelma Schoonmaker told Yahoo. “And then the second half of the movie they play their own age. So that’s a big risk. We’re having that done by Industrial Light and Magic, ILM. That’s a big risk.”

So risky that not even she has seen a complete scene.

“We’re seeing some of it,” she admitted, “but I haven’t gotten a whole scene where they’re young, and what I’m going to have to see, and what Marty’s going to have to see is, ‘How is it affecting the rest of the movie when you see them young?’”

That unknown is certainly concerning and Schoonmaker is well aware of the consequences. She insisted that The Irishman is “an expensive project” and again reiterated that “[Netflix are] taking a risk there.”

No kidding. Over the years, we’ve seen the technology at work in a number of films, and as recently as last summer’s Ant Man and the Wasp, but they’ve mostly been relegated to short scenes. What’s more, they’ve yet to truly be 100% convincing.

Further complicating matters is that the film is reportedly months away from its Netflix release. As The Playlistpoints out, actor Sebastian Maniscalco, who plays Joe Gallo in the film, teased an October drop on Joe Rogan’s podcast, which jives with what they were recently told at Sundance.

With that in mind, and knowing that Schoonmaker has yet to examine a single scene with the technology, one starts to feel the walls moving in on this production. However, Schoonmaker appears more worried about Goodfellas comparisons than anything else.

“The Irishman is not Goodfellas,” Schoonmaker insisted, “And that’s what they think it’s going to be. It’s not. It is not Goodfellas. It’s completely different. It’s wonderful. They’re going to love it. But please don’t think it’s gonna be Goodfellas, because it isn’t.”

To be fair, moviegoers will have their reasons. In addition to reuniting Scorsese with longtime co-stars DeNiro and Joe Pesci, they’re also getting the Godfather himself in Pacino, with a story that’s centered around a hitman and Jimmy Hoffa, as told in Charles Brandt’s 2005 non-fiction novel, I Heard You Paint Houses….

 

[jmc]

Where's the trailer?!!

 

[Schlosser85]

It’ll be weird to have Pacino look young but have his older voice which is completely different from how he sounded in his early roles like the first two Godfathers.

 

[Pennywise]

It’ll be weird to have Pacino look young but have his older voice which is completely different from how he sounded in his early roles like the first two Godfathers.

Definitely!