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Shh's definitive Batman origin

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Gentlemen start your engines! Let's combine all our comicbook knowledge and put together the definitive Batman origin!

I'll start off and will be updating the second post, as long as you guys keep feeding it info! I want it all! Like what countries did he visit to learn and what kind of martial arts traing he had (from who and when!)

Don't make stuff up but find comic book / movie / serial etc. references (prev. current continuity, but the oldies are welcome. As long we get a great and complete picture of how he came to be.)

This is also a thread ment for debate and discussing what "really" happened.
 
Age 6:

Bruce as a young boy discovers by accident the huge underground caves beneath Wayne Manor. These caves will later be transformed into the "Batcave". During the accident he´s frightened by a swarm of Bats. (Source: The Man Who Falls)

Age 7:

Bruce had a childhood friend named Mallory Moxon, the daughter of crimeboss Lew Moxon and eventual heir to his criminal empire. Mallory would often spend her summer days with Bruce, as their respective families conversed buisness. Later on, when Bruce would lose his parents at age eight, Mallory was one of the first people to reach out and help him... but the broken and distraught young man turned her away, leading to the first signs of Batman's reclusive nature. (Source: Batman 591, by Ed Brubaker and Scott McDaniel

Bruce befriends Tommy Elliot whom he met at private school. They became close, until Tommy's father died, under the care of Thomas Wayne, and he moved away with his mother. (Source: Hush)




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Age 8:

When Bruce was eight years old, on June 26th (Batman Confidential #14) his parents took him to a screening of "The Mask Of Zorro" or "The Mark Of Zorro" at a cinema in Gotham's Park Row. Returning to the car, they were confronted by a lone gunman "Joe Chill" , who tried to steal Martha's pearl necklace, an anniversary gift from Thomas. In the ensuing struggle, the thief shot both the Waynes (later versions of the story claimed that only Thomas was shot and Martha had in fact died of shock. This retcon was still later undone). In the wake of this tragedy, Park Row was given the nickname "Crime Alley."

In Jeph Loeb's Batman stories, Bruce feels responsible for his parents' murder because he advised Martha to wear the infamous pearl necklace the night she was murdered. Had she not worn it, the mugger might have not killed them, or even have been attracted to them.

It is also hinted that mob boss Lew Moxon hired Joe Chill, to murder Dr. Thomas Wayne. Joe Chill is up to this day not officially identified as the killer and the case of the Wayne murders is technically " unsolved" .


After Bruce watched his parents die and the police responded a young officer named James (Jim) Gordon embraced the young man whose world just collapsed. Young Bruce rode in the car with Officer Gordon to stateley Wayne Manor where the family butler Alfred Thaddeus Crane Pennyworth (a former english actor and MI 6 Agent) met him at the door and attempted to comfort Bruce Wayne.

Training:

Age 16

Bruce Wayne began his global sojourn, attending courses at Cambridge, the Sorbonne, and other European universities. However, he never stayed long and would often drop out after one semester. Beyond academia, Wayne acquired more "practical" skills.

While abroad, Wayne learned 127 major styles of combat, from Aikido to Yaw-Yan to Ninjitsu. Frenchman Henri Ducard made him an apprentice in manhunting. The ninja Kirigi, and other ninja shadow masters, schooled Wayne in stealth and the ways of the shadow warrior. African Bushman (the Ghost Tribes of the Ten-eyed Brotherhood, among others) taught hunting techniques, while Nepalese monks revealed healing arts. Batman: The Ultimate Guide to the Dark Knight He even learned ventriloquism from practioners of the art. His knowledge of so many varied disciplines has made Wayne an unconventional and unpredictable opponent. When he was 20, he attempted to join the FBI, but he learned it would be impossible to fight crime and evil within the legal system.
http://en.dcdatabaseproject.com/Batman_(Bruce_Wayne)

Age 20:

After realizing he could not work within the system for the FBI, he turns to traveling foreign countries. His first stop was a temple in the Paektu Mountains in Korea where he trained for nearly a year under Master Kirigi. When finding out his training would require another twenty years, an impatient Bruce left to his next destination: France. Source: The Man Who Falls

During his early days traveling the world, in France, Bruce approaches Ducard for training in Paris. Ducard, a detective with excellent man hunting skills, imparted much of his knowledge to the young, Bruce.

Later in the series, it is revealed that Ducard is largely amoral, working for criminals as often as he does the law. He deduces Batman's secret identity, but keeps it to himself. Source: Detective Comics #599 or Blind Justice TPB
 
Questions:
1. Bruce either 6 or 8, Y1 says 6 but The Man Who falls states 8.
 
Questions:
1. Bruce either 6 or 8, Y1 says 6 but The Man Who falls states 8.

The general idea is that he was eight years old. That's what most origins point to, whether it be random flashbacks or retellings. (Oddly enough, in the script for Batman Begins, Bruce was ten. But in the credits, he's listed as eight, if I recall correctly.)
 
Then we start the counter at age 8. If I have any language errors of if anybody thinks a piece can be written better, please do.
 
Also, a point I've collected from memory:

Age 7:

Bruce had a childhood friend named Mallory Moxon, the daughter of crimeboss Lew Moxon and eventual heir to his criminal empire. Mallory would often spend her summer days with Bruce, as their respective families conversed buisness. Later on, when Bruce would lose his parents at age eight, Mallory was one of the first people to reach out and help him... but the broken and distraught young man turned her away, leading to the first signs of Batman's reclusive nature. (Source: Batman 591, by Ed Brubaker and Scott McDaniel)
 
After Bruce watched his parents die and the police responded a young officer named Gordon embraced the young man whose world just collapsed. Young Bruce rode in the car with Officer Gordon to stateley Wayne Manor where the family butler Alfred Pennyworth (a former MI 6 Agent) met him at the door and attempted to comfort Bruce Wayne.
 
Thanks Tag279, are you sure it was Gordon? Wasn't he still in Chicago back then?
Or was he transferred from Gotham to Chicago and later returning to Gotham...
Did you get this from " The Untold Legend"
 
Thanks Tag279, are you sure it was Gordon? Wasn't he still in Chicago back then?
Or was he transferred from Gotham to Chicago and later returning to Gotham...
Did you get this from " The Untold Legend"

I read it in Batman years ago I don't remember what number
 
Okay no problem, let's see if someone can find some reference.
 
After Bruce watched his parents die and the police responded a young officer named Gordon embraced the young man whose world just collapsed. Young Bruce rode in the car with Officer Gordon to stateley Wayne Manor where the family butler Alfred Pennyworth (a former MI 6 Agent) met him at the door and attempted to comfort Bruce Wayne.

That doesn't make a lot of sense. Pre-Crisis there would not be an Alfred waiting because he became Batman's butler a few years after his career started. And post-crisis Gordon would be much younger and still be in CHicago.
 
At age 20 after realizing he could not work within the system for the FBI, he turns to traveling foreign countries. His first stop was a temple in the Paektu Mountains in Korea where he trained for nearly a year under Master Kirigi. When finding out his training would require another twenty years, an impatient Bruce left to his next destination: France, where he would meet Ducard.
 
Sorry I have nothing to contribute right now (can't read the whole thread or people at work think I'm slacking off too much) but I just wanted to say 2 things. Tagged, and great Idea for a thread.
 
When he's 7 again, he had a friend name Tommy Elliot whom he met at private school. They became close, until Tommy's father died, under the care of Thomas Wayne, and he moved away with his mother.
 
At age 20 after realizing he could not work within the system for the FBI, he turns to traveling foreign countries. His first stop was a temple in the Paektu Mountains in Korea where he trained for nearly a year under Master Kirigi. When finding out his training would require another twenty years, an impatient Bruce left to his next destination: France, where he would meet Ducard.

Where's this from?
 
Anybody got some info about his FBI training?

And does anyone know when Bruce first had an encounter with Alan Scot GL?
 
I swear I've read a comic where he tried to F.B.I. thing for a second.

Maybe it was the police. I'll see what i can find for you Cobb.
 
Thanks, I sadly cannot flip though my collection due to the fact it stored someplace else for quite some time. I'm in the middle of moving...
 
Wasn't Bruce's encounter with the first GL in Metropolis? In the Hush series, Bruce and Tommy were reminiscing about their first time going to Metropolis with Thomas Wayne and Alfred. They were told to stay put but when they saw GL, they followed the battle and got in trouble for not listening.
 
Might be, but Alan Scott's home base in the 30's and 40's was Gotham City. I have Hush somewhere here, will check it later.
 
here's an intressting topic, might give you guys some leads:
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/archive/index.php/t-58907.html

And:

http://www.angelfire.com/planet/mythguide/batman.html

And I would like to see some ref. for this:

"As the story goes Bruce’s parents were murdered when he was 8. When he was 14, he left Gotham City and went out into the world traveling the globe - all the while learning and honing the skills he would later use to strike terror in the hearts and minds of criminals.

12 years later, he returns to Gotham City. An expert in Forensics and Criminology, but also a conditioned physical specimen who was an expert in every single martial art. Plus he had exceptional training in gymnastics and acrobatics, vertical ascent and descent and a handful of tricks in lock-picking and escapology."
 

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