Age of Extinction Should Dinobots and/or Constructicons be in the sequel?

[ProfeZZor X]

I'm actually not really a fan of the idea, and I thought the Dinobots in G1 were pretty lame. However, if they chose to include Grimlock in Transformers 2, as a Cybertonian so old that he precedes the Autobot and Decepticon factions themselves, and joins the Autobots after a brief bout of neutrality, I'd be okay with that. If it makes a bunch of fans happy and they can do it in a way that's cool and not stupid, then go for it. As long as it's just Grimlock and not a whole bunch of them.

Change the whole Transformers concept then, while you're at it... And maybe Optimus Prime and the rest of the Autobots could be chorus line dancers while they're stuck on earth with nothing else to do in the mean time. Rewriting the whole backstory for the Dinobots that has no merit or credibility is nonsense. If they're brought in to this movie, it should be a prelude to the fans, and done in a way thats similar to how they became in the first place. Given, with today's technology, fossilized Dinobots stuck in the earth would be out of the question, since earth's been practically stripped of all it's natural resrouces, and thousands of discoveries have already been discovered anyway.

I like the idea of them crash landing near a natural history museum, and taking on the properties of dinosaurs, only to realize their learning processors have been damaged (similar to Bumblebee's problem). This would explain their primitive, caveman-like speech. That concept would seem more feasible than some ancient Cybertonian deciding to help the Autobots.

Just remember, the producers of this film were paying tribute to the original premise of Transformers, and are fans themselves.

 

[Denny67]

Dinobots - NO
Constructicons - YES

 

[Arcturus]

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Agreed, and they should be accompanied by Starscream and Soundwave, thus the new Decepitcon force for film 2.

 

[dancing_on_fire]

didnt mind they're pre transformer movie appearances but after the film they were pretty crap, i hated grimlock after season 2, he was good before that, i hope they bring dinobot from beast wars haha that would be awesome but incredibly difficult and weird.

 

[November Rain]

honestly, if devastator isn't in the film in one form or another, 'd be sorely pissed.

grimlock would be nice and i would also have snarl so there could be some sort of aerial battle with starscream.

a snarl and grimlock takedown of devastator while prime and the rest deal with megs and soundwave would be awesome.

 

[blind_fury]

Nothing is wrong with having an entire Dinobot squad fighting Devastaor.

The Dinobots are barbarian savages with Grimlock as their King Conan-type leader. Their dinosaur alt-forms are better suited for off-road earth terrain and unconventional combat which is why they could be built to defeat the Decepticons.

I'd like to see them fight Devastator and the Arielbots, built for air supremacy, to combat Predaking. Those two fight scenes alone would make the sequel a must see summer movie.

 

[November Rain]

those are introducing far far too many transformers into a sequel format.

i say limit it to one set of constructicons and perhaps some (3 dinobots).

to even include these many bots would require a vast reduction of the human story being told and a large amount of already required character development, especially on the decepticon side.

 

[blind_fury]

those are introducing far far too many transformers into a sequel format.

i say limit it to one set of constructicons and perhaps some (3 dinobots).

to even include these many bots would require a vast reduction of the human story being told and a large amount of already required character development, especially on the decepticon side.

I think the LOTR approach would be perfect for an epic Transformers sequel where the Decepticons control Earth and Cybertron (thanks to the space bridge) and a smaller band of Autobots must overthrow this tyranny on both planets. Of course you can still have Sam in the middle of it all kind of like Frodo was in The Two Towers.

Here's my story idea:

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=12079959&postcount=29

 

[Timstuff]

Change the whole Transformers concept then, while you're at it... And maybe Optimus Prime and the rest of the Autobots could be chorus line dancers while they're stuck on earth with nothing else to do in the mean time. Rewriting the whole backstory for the Dinobots that has no merit or credibility is nonsense. If they're brought in to this movie, it should be a prelude to the fans, and done in a way thats similar to how they became in the first place. Given, with today's technology, fossilized Dinobots stuck in the earth would be out of the question, since earth's been practically stripped of all it's natural resrouces, and thousands of discoveries have already been discovered anyway.

I like the idea of them crash landing near a natural history museum, and taking on the properties of dinosaurs, only to realize their learning processors have been damaged (similar to Bumblebee's problem). This would explain their primitive, caveman-like speech. That concept would seem more feasible than some ancient Cybertonian deciding to help the Autobots.

Just remember, the producers of this film were paying tribute to the original premise of Transformers, and are fans themselves.

Please, the idea of a super advanced robot talking like "UGH! Me am STRONG!" is really stupid. If you're so closed off to having the Dinobots being updated, then we're probably best off not having them in there at all.

And your explanation for why Grimlock couldn't be "hybernating" in a rock layer didn't make a lick of sense. Please elaborate.

 

[Strong Guy]

Uh..yeah.I agree about that.In the cartoons,Dinobots would look cool.But in the movies?Definitely a no-no.

 

[Sentinel X]

A yes to constructicons and a HELL NO to dinobots. I know Transformers is fake but I want them to keep it real...they disguise into everyday things so no one notices them.
Disguising into a dinosaur is NOT blending in, sorry..

 

[Jick]

Dinobots...no.
but the Constructicons, certainly. I think they all together could be a awesome final villain for the next movie.

 

[Grievous]

Constructicons, maybe, but Devestator would be ungodly huge.
Dinobots, no! They wouldn't fit into the way this movie was made. The only way I can see A, and I don mean 1, Dinobot working, is that when Grimlock crashlands on Earth, he lands in a museum, and the T-rex is what he scans.

that would be cool to see.

 

[Timstuff]

Anyway, if Grimlock had to be in the sequel, I would take this skeleton as a starting point--

--and turn it into the T-Rex equivalent to this.

 

[srnrew]

Definitely a scene I'd like to see in TF 2!

 

[Not Foul Ron]

With the way that the first movie was set up, the inclusion of Dinobos would be a big mistake. It made perfect sense to have the 'robots' come to Earth and disguise themselves as the first mechanical object/vehicle that they came across. It would not be natural for them to change into Dinosaur-like creatures. Constructicons, on the other hand, make perfect sense.Either way, you are not going to please everyone. As it was, a lot of fan-boys complained about the first movie with Megatron and Bumblebee not taking their original forms. I, however, rate it as one of the best movies I have ever seen and both my fiance and brother thoroughly enjoyed it despite not having any prior knowledge of the cartoon.I feel it is best if we accept the movie as being part of a separate entity and ignore the cartoons and comics. It would be more beneficial to the movie makers if they maintained the continuity developed in the first movie and, to an extent, disregard the events of the previous incarnations.

 

[dancing_on_fire]

Anyway, if Grimlock had to be in the sequel, I would take this skeleton as a starting point--

--and turn it into the T-Rex equivalent to this.

omfg yes that looks like the best combo!!!

 

[elgaz]

I would love to see Constructicons in the sequel. Quite simply, the sequel will have to be bigger and badder than the first film if it's to be successful and as the first film was already totally action packed, they're not going to carry it off with just having more Transformers - we need some huge, oversized, gigantic threats like Devastator. The combining element would also bring a new layer to the film.

As for Dinobots, I would like to see them also but I'm wary of how they would be introduced.

- Grimlock landing near a museum and scanning an old T-rex form? A bit too 'obvious' for my liking, and it also beggars the question as to why all the other Transformers scanned vehicles and he scans an inanimate model? Also, seeing as all his fellow Autobots have harnessed information about Earth from the Internet, it stands to reason that they would be aware that dinosaur forms are extinct on earth and would not be the best disguise. It also does nothing to explain why the Dinobots were of low intelligence compared to the other Autobots - certainly not clever enough to make their way to Earth or be sent on reconnaisance missions. Their main use is their physical strength.

- Grimlock and the other Dinobots dormant on earth for thousands of years? Again, a bit too much artistic license and too 'obvious'. Megatron was the only one who followed the allspark and it has taken the other Transformers this long to get to Earth - there's no sensible explanation as to why the Dinobots would have been there even longer beforehand.


My solution to their introduction would be this. Assuming that the Allspark is still active (or partially active - Prime did retrieve some of it from Megatron's chest), we can assume that it still has the ability to give life to inanimate mechanical objects as it did with the vending machine and mobile phone in the film. What we need is some plot device that enables that piece of the Allspark to come into contact with some inanimate, life-sized dinosaur models. Think a Jurassic Park theme ride or some kind of animated museum - there are places like this in real life with mechanised dinosaur models. Once the allspark comes in contact with these models, they will be given life and the ability to transform. As these mechanised models are normally life sized anyway and even relatively small cars can turn into large robots (look at Jazz/Bumblebee), it stands to reason that the Dinobots will be physically intimidating and very strong.

As they will essentially be newly born and thus have little or no knowledge accumulated, this could also help to explain away their low intelligence and child-like demeanour - everything is 'new' to them.

A further subplot could be developed in the form of the Dinobots having no particular allegiance (again because they do not yet understand who/what they are) and a race against time between the Autobots and Decepticons to find & absorb them into their particular groups.

Gaz

 

[November Rain]

i have no problems with the dinobots landing on some sort of abaddoned amusement park and taking the forms of the robotic dinosaurs as their own.

there are many different ways for a transformer to blend in with society, being a vehicle is probably the most obvious one if you wish to get around but maybe the dinobots like the simple isolated life so they choose structures that don't normally move.

To be fair, if something as big as devastator is going to be going around, i doubt the least of people's problems is why mechanical dinosaurs are coming in to tackle him.

also they would have to be a reason as to why they wouldn't be featured in future films.

 

[spidergrant]

i think if they get into the story it should be in a third movie. i dont know why but i just they fit more into a third movie

 

[Hotwire]

While I like the idea of adding combiners to the mix, I just don't think the Dinobots would work. Leave them out, but perhaps bring in one of the Autobots combiners, Superion for example.

 

[rmix]

Constructicons yes, but then the 3rd movie has to be even bigger!

Dinobots I would love to see, the only right place for them is somewhere in the jungle or at least not in a big city. I mean Scorponok did also work because he was in the dessert. If they would put him in the city it would also look weird.

 

[Chris B]

If the Dinobots ever do appear in the sequels, they need to be modeled after their Marvel Comics counterparts where they weren't the village idiots. Grimlock especially.

 

[Chris B]

Grimlock and the other Dinobots dormant on earth for thousands of years? Again, a bit too much artistic license and too 'obvious'. Megatron was the only one who followed the allspark and it has taken the other Transformers this long to get to Earth - there's no sensible explanation as to why the Dinobots would have been there even longer beforehand.

Keep in mind that the Dinobots had a prehistoric origin in the Marvel Comics series. And to be honest I think they should use that version of their origin as a template. Something as simple as they were an Autobot special operations team that followed Megatron to Earth would work.

 

[Chris B]

Anyway, if Grimlock had to be in the sequel, I would take this skeleton as a starting point--

--and turn it into the T-Rex equivalent to this.

I think that is probably what we would get. They took a similar approach with Scorponok.