Sequels Should logan where a costume in his spinoff?

AeonFlux said:
Ok some of you are saying how stupid Wolverine looks in his comic form, then WHY THE HELL ARE YOU EVEN FANS!?!?!? You people who love these crap movies amaze me with how much you say this and that in the comics is sooo lame yet you say you are fans? If you hate half the things about these characters then why are you fans of it!?
Just because it looks good on paper doesn't mean it would look good in real life. That's what the majority of us are saying. And if the movies are such crap, why are you here?
 
Chris Wallace said:
Just because it looks good on paper doesn't mean it would look good in real life. That's what the majority of us are saying. And if the movies are such crap, why are you here?

:rolleyes:

The least you could do is at least pretend to give her a real argument.

:wolverine
 
Herr Logan said:
:rolleyes:

The least you could do is at least pretend to give her a real argument.

:wolverine
Why? Why entertain such a post any further?
I guess I could say for the 100th time that the clothes don't make the man, Wolverine is Wolverine no matter what he wears, & he's not defined by his costume, but I get bored repeating myself.
 
Herr Logan said:
You act as if I'm new here.

:wolverine
I wasn't talking to you, there were 5 posts by some other guy spamming the thread, but I guess the mods removed them.
 
i don't think he should. isnt it supposed to be before he got the adamantium claws? if he does, i just hope he doesn't have the mask.:eek: i mean in the comics its cool looking but it would look kinda weird with what we have already seen in the first three movies...
 
AeonFlux said:
Ok some of you are saying how stupid Wolverine looks in his comic form, then WHY THE HELL ARE YOU EVEN FANS!?!?!? You people who love these crap movies amaze me with how much you say this and that in the comics is sooo lame yet you say you are fans? If you hate half the things about these characters then why are you fans of it!?

its all a matter of taste. i know plently of people who love the comics and hate the movies or vice versa. i was a fan of the movies before i read the comics and i still prefer the movies to the comics. the world isn't so black and white. people can like one side of something and not another. also, you can hold your opinions to yourself if you have to be so rude about it. do you think because of what you typed people are going to be like "oh, i guess im not a fan anymore until i read the comics"? the answer is no.

Jean Grey Rocks :xmen:
 
I think the biggest problem with Wolvie wearing his comic suit in the movie would be that Jackman isn't even close to being as muscular as Wolvie is drawn in the comics. No matter what you do, Jackman in spandex will never look anything like this:
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I'd rather see him wear street clothes or some kind of black ops suit.
 
ampersand said:
I wasn't talking to you, there were 5 posts by some other guy spamming the thread, but I guess the mods removed them.

My sincere aplogies. :O

:wolverine
 
ampersand said:
I think the biggest problem with Wolvie wearing his comic suit in the movie would be that Jackman isn't even close to being as muscular as Wolvie is drawn in the comics. No matter what you do, Jackman in spandex will never look anything like this:

I'd rather see him wear street clothes or some kind of black ops suit.

Let me just clarify that I was essentially skipping over the reality that the current Movie!Wolverine, Hugh Jackman, is barely anything like the real Wolverine, in terms of the character being distinguished from the vague, cliche'd archetype from which he's derived, and also that the upcoming movie is rumored to be a prequel.

I should have put more thought into it before I initially posted, because I was saying that's what the real Wolverine should wear as an X-Man or agent for Department X, were he ever to be filmed (and by "real" I mean someone who looks like him and has direction and script that befits the actual character, as opposed to the watered-down teeny-bopper bait we've seen, not a fictional character somehow magically come to life).

In other words, everyone who has said that the character they're presuming to call "Wolverine" in the upcoming prequel shouldn't wear a real superhero costume for the sake of continuity is absolutely right. Then again, if people were more secure and less ashamed of their interest in costumed superheroes and really wanted to see a costume, there's an easy way to make that happen. Movie!Wolverine doesn't remember anything beyond the past 15 or so years, right? Then there's no limit to what he could have worn beforehand. If anything, it could actually reinforce his dislike of costumes later in life, as an instinctive response to a repressed memory. But I would never insist on this, since no costume could make the man on the screen anything other than a Wolverine In Name Only.

If they really wanted to give us Wolverine, the actor would be a man who is very muscular, short and stocky in frame, not a 6'2" soap star leading man. Hell, Jackman was plenty muscular in the last two X-Men movies; it's not a matter of musculature, it's a matter of frame and physique.
Don't anybody dare tell me that there aren't any people of that body type who can act, because there's no possible way to know or prove that, and only through a valid, honest casting call could it ever be tested. Like I said much, much earlier, there's no way to disprove anything; you can only support the affirmative, not negate the negative.
My standards for this role are not subject to compromise just because people of limited imagination can't visualize it. Hell, if I was in extremely good condition, my frame would be right for the part, but I'm 5'8," so only if there was a whole bunch of camera tricks or special effects that made me look 5 inches shorter would I even cast myself (and believe me, I'd want the part... it's just a matter of what matters more, a person's ego or the integrity of the story). Wolverine isn't even as tall as Tom Cruise or Robert DeNiro, for God's sake, and they aren't as tall as me. His height is an essential characteristic, wheras other characters' heights have more room for variation (although there's no way that having Cyclops be shorter than Jean Grey and possibly shorter than Wolverine is at all acceptable... Cyclops is a full foot taller, and that's what cool about them staring each other down).
I've seen one or two martial artists in real life with body types very much like Wolverine's. None that were actors, as far as I know, but these people exist, and they can take on physical roles. The one that taught at my high school showed me how he uses his runty stature to his advantage. He had me try to trip him, and it didn't work because of his mass distribution. By the same token, he had trouble tripping me, since I also have a reasonably broad frame and a low center of gravity. This is just one reason why non-fans shouldn't be telling real fans that Wolverine would look silly if he was at his proper height. A small man who takes down a bigger man is more remarkable and impressive than if they were of equal size or the other way around.

As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't make any difference what Movie!Wolverine wears. He's a generic, unremarkable, pale imitation, so he may as well dress the part. However, if a team of filmmakers decided they wanted to bring the real X-Men and/or the real Wolverine to life, they would either give them distinctive costumes that resemble their comics counterparts, or they would put them all in blue and gold uniforms. If Wolverine is going to wear blue and gold, it should be in the design of his first costume, with tiger stripes, etc., not the revamped version of the original school uniform. However, he doesn't ever need to wear that, either, since there's a perfectly good brown and orange costume for him to wear.


Hell, I'd even be okay with Alex Ross' movie design for Wolverine (see below). It's the only one of those designs that were the least bit appropriate for an X-Man, and it really does suit him. It matches his style for the most part and also signifies his team affiliation at a glance. If the back of it mirrored or resembled the front, this would be a perfectly acceptable Wolverine costume that was more black than not. The non-black area is supposed to be orange or brown, I think. the one problem is that the sketch below has Wolverine either not stocky enough or two tall. I've seen sketches of this that included Hugh Jackman's face, so the body was modeled after Movie!Wolverine, not the real one. Still, I'm sure it could look just as good on the correct frame.

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:wolverine
 
Chris Wallace said:
Why? Why entertain such a post any further?
I guess I could say for the 100th time that the clothes don't make the man, Wolverine is Wolverine no matter what he wears, & he's not defined by his costume, but I get bored repeating myself.

I'm gettin' pretty bored of you repeating yourself, too. If the various snippets of dismissive, handed-down, condescending apologist slogans I keep seeing from you are all you've got, then don't bother. Bleating along with the herd makes your arguments just as generic, common and forgettable as a version of a superhero that doesn't look the part.

:wolverine
 
You make a valid point. If filmmakers wanted to they probably could make wolverine picture perfect to the comics. I like Jackman's portrayal way more than the comic one though so I hope that never happens.
 
ampersand said:
You make a valid point. If filmmakers wanted to they probably could make wolverine picture perfect to the comics. I like Jackman's portrayal way more than the comic one though so I hope that never happens.

*bites knuckles*

*muffles screams of outrage with pillows*

*waits until the rage passes*


Fair... enough...

:wolverine
 
I think he should just wear his ordinary clothes.
 

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