Should Marvel take a "break" like dc?

[storyteller]

Dc cancelled a bunch of books(all mostly spin offs of their main hitters) and re evaluated the ones they kept by bringing them back to issue one or giving them the 1 year treatment.

I personally feel that this has helped bring the reader back to point 0. The reader knows little and is pardon the choice of words like a "virgin" to the comic.


Now i'm not saying for Marvel to go and do a crisis(civil war will do )
Maybe they should blank slate themselves. Given iron man and co a break. bring the X-men titles back into something more managable.

Give a time break so they can establish characters in new settings without having to have arcs telling us how they got to the point they did.

After seeing the "mess" Dc was in. I really see it in Marvel. Its like everyones on edge and sorta univiting to the new reader.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

There probably will be jumping-on points galore after Civil War is over. Every major event brings a horde of new titles, canceled titles, and new stories sending the established characters in new directions.

 

[deemar325]

^ What he said.

 

[Ben Urich]

There probably will be jumping-on points galore after Civil War is over. Every major event brings a horde of new titles, canceled titles, and new stories sending the established characters in new directions.

The difference being, of course, that the status quo in Marvel changes once or twice a month, while DC manages to keep continuity basically straight for a few years.

 

[deemar325]

The difference being, of course, that the status quo in Marvel changes once or twice a month, while DC manages to keep continuity basically straight for a few years.

What!!?

DC can't even be content with one version of Superman's origin, Marvel shakes up things quite a bit, but rest assured Peter Parker will always be from Queens N.Y. No worrying that Ironman wasn't a Alcoholic or Beast was an Avenger etc..Marvel is a pretty consistant Universe.

DC is the one who needs to have a 'Crisis' so now Joe Chill killed Bats parents again and Jason Todd is alive because of 'punches' at least bucky's return made sense and doesn't do away with over 30years of continuity.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Marvel just needs to cut the fat off their X-books and Spider-Man books. AKA, reduce the number of them.

 

[iambilly81]

Marvel just needs to cut the fat off their X-books and Spider-Man books. AKA, reduce the number of them.

i agree 100%... at times i feel if you miss one of them many xbooks or spiderman books your behind and not knowing whats up. cut the fat and your golden.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

What!!?

DC can't even be content with one version of Superman's origin, Marvel shakes up things quite a bit, but rest assured Peter Parker will always be from Queens N.Y. No worrying that Ironman wasn't a Alcoholic or Beast was an Avenger etc..Marvel is a pretty consistant Universe.

DC is the one who needs to have a 'Crisis' so now Joe Chill killed Bats parents again and Jason Todd is alive because of 'punches' at least bucky's return made sense and doesn't do away with over 30years of continuity.

As much as I loathe Jason Todd and his return, it didn't undo any continuity. Jason still died, as was shown in the comics. He was just revived through the god-awful plot device of Superboy Prime's punches. That and everything else he did between his death and return was off-panel, just like Lukin's recovery and resuscitation of Bucky's body, Bucky's training and ops as the Winter Soldier, and everything else Brubaker introduced in the arc was off-panel. Both Brubaker and Winick did the same things; Brubaker just did them in a much stronger story.

Also, Superman's had a handful of origins over the years. One original one, one to coincide with the rebooted version after Crisis on Infinite Earths, Birthright to tie in more with Smallville (which is now considered apocryphal and counts about as much as Marvel's Mythos origin revamps), and now the forthcoming official new one to coincide with Infinite Crisis, which should largely be the same as one of the previous versions (probably the CoIE one). Marvel retcons stuff just as much, they just don't do it all in one fell swoop like DC does. Neither is better than the other in this respect; they're both guilty of ****ing up their continuities to their hearts' content.

 

[Dr.Doom]

If they do then DC fanboys will flood this forum saying they copied.

I wouldn't mind them chopping down the number of books per character to say, 1.

Just imagine, 1 spidey book, 1 X book, 1 FF book. Not including Ultimate titles. The strain on MY wallet will be relieved substantially.

 

[Gilpesh]

Just imagine, 1 spidey book, 1 X book, 1 FF book. Not including Ultimate titles. The strain on MY wallet will be relieved substantially.

NEVER!!!!!

 

[Dr.Doom]

You LIKE multiple Spidey, FF, and X books !?!?!?

 

[Gilpesh]

You LIKE multiple Spidey, FF, and X books !?!?!?

Sorry I was answering as a vessel of Marvel.

 

[Dr.Doom]

oh

 

[Artistsean]

So DC cancelled a bunch of books? Hope they didn't lay off those artists and writers, poor guys.

 

[Dr.Doom]

well, they've been planning this for awhile. im sure they found other things for them.

 

[Harlekin]

They don't 'lay off' writers. Writers either have an exclusive contract or are freelancers.

 

[Artistsean]

Wouldn't it suck, you've been trying to get into comics for a long time. You finally maker to to a Batman title and it gets cancelled.

 

[Anubis]

So, you just go work on another book.

 

[Aquaman]

IMO, DC seems to do a better job at structuring everything. They've had a 're-start' sorta. Jumped ahead a year later, but they aren't leaving it unknown what happened between the year.

I'd like to see Marvel do something to get their characters kinda back to a familiar place and then go ahead and expand from there again. Get spider-man and daredevil vigilanting as spider-man and daredevil in New York. Get X-Men back to being a low-key school for mutants with Xavier as the Headmaster. I'd just like to see something a little more familiar.

Honestly, thats what House of M could have done as well as gotten the mutant population down. Her chaos magic could have sorta placed all our heroes and villains in the places they should be or whatever.

 

[Kotagg]

I'd like to see Marvel do something to get their characters kinda back to a familiar place and then go ahead and expand from there again. Get spider-man and daredevil vigilanting as spider-man and daredevil in New York. Get X-Men back to being a low-key school for mutants with Xavier as the Headmaster. I'd just like to see something a little more familiar.

No offense, really, but I'm SO glad that you're not in Joey Q's place. I would like nothing LESS than for Marvel to revert back to what it was ten years ago. Why is it that so many people are against progress?

 

[Dr.Doom]

Not against progress, just really really bad progress.

 

[SpideyInATree]

Marvel just has bad organizational skills these days. It's like they're rushing things all the time to compete with DC or for whatever reason would make them rush, I'm not completely sure.

I read most of the Infinite Crisis stuff and the continuity and flow of the entire story was so well done. Why? Because the writers, artists, and editors were always on the same page and knowing who is doing what to whom, when, where, and why.

Marvel is like...the opposite. It's like one writer does one thing. The other another thing. Then another writer does something that makes the two other things that were done look like classical moments in comic history.

You can't just blame Joe Quesada for it. But you can definitely say he's part of the problem.

So far with Civil War I've seen some strong continuity and some better connections. So far. SO FAR. How many flubs are we going to have later down the road?

House of M was a good crossover just contained in the mini. But once you stepped into all the other tie in's it was like, "Huh?" This doesn't make sense. Read the House of M miniseries and read the Spider-Man House of M miniseries. They don't make sense with one another.

Marvel doesn't need to do what DC did. DC is a different type of universe where they can do those types of things with their characters.

All Marvel needs to do is realize what made them such a great attraction in the industry...and that's to have a strong continuity among the books and to keep the stories simple. Nothing worse than trying to make something more complicated than it already is. Hence why such stories as Sins Past and The Other in the Spidey front were such bad stories...trying to add too much to something that didn't need added to.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

Just imagine, 1 spidey book, 1 X book, 1 FF book. Not including Ultimate titles. The strain on MY wallet will be relieved substantially.

Ahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!

Marvel wants your wallet stretched. WILL NOT HAPPEN IN A MILLION YEARS!

im still laughin that you sed it


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[MyPokerShirt]

I read most of the Infinite Crisis stuff and the continuity and flow of the entire story was so well done. Why? Because the writers, artists, and editors were always on the same page and knowing who is doing what to whom, when, where, and why.

I heard it was a complete mess and you needed to be a fanboy to understand anything. All the Kal-el and Kal-Ls and conner kents and superboys and super-primes. its bloody ridiculous. at least at marvel u can jump on pretty easily. i read a few young justices when i used to collect as well as spidey books. came back with some more adult titles (walking dead, powers) and then back to spidey quite recently and i've caught up, but im so bloody confused about superboy. all i know is he got his powers back and died. great. DC shoulda retconned -- i know ppl dont like it -- WITHOUT having an in-universe explanation with "crisis". Marvel's sliding timeline system is so well-worked. sure, recently things have been messed up, but it was mainly the whole mutant thing being put into order and Queseda gettin power hungry with spidey.

As a rule marvel makes far more sense with its system and the sales reflect this. marvel rules, as ever.

ps (everybody buy powers/ walking dead/ hunter killer -- bendis, kirkman and silvestri at their best!)

 

[Aquaman]

No offense, really, but I'm SO glad that you're not in Joey Q's place. I would like nothing LESS than for Marvel to revert back to what it was ten years ago. Why is it that so many people are against progress?

I have nothing against progress. But like it was said, no real structure in the Marvel U. I'd like to see it get to a point where there isn't another universe altering event every few months.

Most of the characters these days have changed and been changed so dramatically, to a point where some of them don't seem like the characters they used to be (Spider-Man/Peter Parker, half of the X-Men at least). I like reading good stories, but it seems everything lately has to completely change the characters. I like character development, but not if thats going to take away from the bigger story.

Also, its too hard to keep track with whats going on. So many peripheral stories, so many spin-offs, and they all inter-connect. Having to buy all of them isn't as big of a complaint as missing an issue or two and its hard to catch up.